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07-13-2010, 01:02 PM
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Thanks a lot, much appreciated. I like the way he sounds.

While we have you here, any guesses on whether Coyle will come back or turn pro?
Was hoping some Dallas fans would give me insight on that one.
Dallas didn't say anything in their press release about where he would play.

I think it probably depends on what type of depth Dallas has on defence in their minors system, and whether Coyle can make a impact rather than a 6th or 7th defensman. I'm kinda thinking that Dallas will send him back unless Coyle improves remarkably over the summer or Dallas is short on depth. But he is a 20 year old I'm not really sure.

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Official announcement and Barnes re-signed:
http://espn.go.com/blog/DallasStars/...s-announcement
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Dallas Stars General Manager Joe Nieuwendyk announced today that the club has named Willie Desjardins associate coach and the club has re-signed Stu Barnes for next season.

“We are very excited to name Willie Desjardins to our coaching staff,” said Nieuwendyk. “He has run an exceptional program in Medicine Hat for almost a decade now. Willie’s winning pedigree and positive attitude brings a lot to our organization. He will help the Dallas Stars in our efforts take the next step in getting back to the playoffs. “We believe Stu is an important piece to our coaching staff and our pleased to continue our relationship with him.”

"Willie has run the model program in the WHL and has been responsible for the development of many NHL players,” added head coach Marc Crawford. “He has been very successful at the World Junior Championships. Desjardins will bring a fresh prospective, new ideas and help with continued improvement of the Dallas Stars."

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Was hoping some Dallas fans would give me insight on that one.
Dallas didn't say anything in their press release about where he would play.

I think it probably depends on what type of depth Dallas has on defence in their minors system, and whether Coyle can make a impact rather than a 6th or 7th defensman. I'm kinda thinking that Dallas will send him back unless Coyle improves remarkably over the summer or Dallas is short on depth. But he is a 20 year old I'm not really sure.
Minor League Depth right now:

Maxime Fortunus
Severin Blindenbacher
Philip Larsen
Jace Coyle
Trevor Ludwig
Guillaume Monast

Several of my opinions

1) Dan Jancevski gets a two-way NHL contract from Dallas
2) Monast plays in the ECHL
3) Matt Stephenson earns an AHL contract from the Texas Stars to serve as a depth, 7th defenseman.
4) Tyler Ludwig will get two-way AHL contract from Texas, and he will play in the ECHL.
5) Joyce plays in the AHL next year. Dallas rarely has a prospect with a birthday between Jan. and Sept. return to the CHL for their overage year, and he's already completed 3 full seasons in the Dub.

Texas D lineup – My guess:

Philip Larsen - Maxime Forutnus
Dan Jancevski – Jace Coyle
Trevor Ludwig – Severin Blindenbacher
Matt Stephenson

Coyle and Ludwig are both young so I split them up with the older D. Fortunus played with Vishnevskiy the majority of the time he was in Texas, and I just think Larsen, who played Left D in Sweden, will probably play with him as well.

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07-13-2010, 02:00 PM
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Hey thanks for that. That was exactly the type of depth scenario i was looking for. I'm definitely gonna keep my eye on any new signings.

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I'm more excited that Stuuuuuuuuu is back

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Some of a Crawford Quote
"Mike Johnson (former Crawford assistant), who knows him tremendously well, told both Willie and myself that he thought the relationship would be just great, and he believes our chemistry will be terrific."

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallasstars/...-on-desjardins

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07-13-2010, 09:15 PM
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I want my coach back.

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07-15-2010, 10:02 AM
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Hey thanks for that. That was exactly the type of depth scenario i was looking for. I'm definitely gonna keep my eye on any new signings.
Dan Jancevski just signed with the Flyers. Apparently, the Stars organization did not plan on retaining any of their $225-$250,000 AHL defensemen. Sure seems like they are going to a very light budget in Austin. As of right now, Krahn is the only player scheduled to make over $100,000 next season. Maxime Fortunus, RFA, will most likely make more than $100,000 as well.

Looking more likely that Jace Coyle turns pro next season.

They could go very cheap and have Texas re-sign Matt Stephenson and Ethan Graham. Stephenson played in 60 regular season AHL games and all 24 playoff games. Graham played a few regular season games and 15 playoff game.

Philip Larsen - Maxime Forutnus
Matt Stephenson – Jace Coyle
Trevor Ludwig – Severin Blindenbacher
Ethan Graham

Still sign Tyler Ludwig to a two way AHL deal so they have some extra depth in the ECHL.

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07-15-2010, 10:53 AM
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Texas stars defense looks small, real small

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07-15-2010, 11:59 AM
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Coyle should go pro anyway. It's rare that an overage season actually aids in a player's development.

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07-15-2010, 06:08 PM
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Coyle should go pro anyway. It's rare that an overage season actually aids in a player's development.
I have found in the past that a player who was not drafted and signs in the summer prior to their overage season; that prospect is usually(not always)considered more of a project player and where he plays largely depends on an organizations depth charts. Although this is not always the case, but those type of players that come back aren't as rare as the drafted and signed players that come back.

I am thinking that Willie Desjardins had a little input getting the Stars to Sign Coyle.


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07-15-2010, 10:33 PM
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I'm not saying it's rare that they come back, just that an overage season doesn't really help a player develop except in exceptional circumstances (such as a season lost to injury).

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08-01-2010, 09:47 PM
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08-01-2010, 11:39 PM
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You guys are leaving Tyler Ludwig out of the picture. He'll be up for Texas.

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You guys are leaving Tyler Ludwig out of the picture. He'll be up for Texas.
I doubt he's guaranteed anything. More than likely, I imainge he'll spend time in the ECHL like Trevor.

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Negative, I know this team
That's nice you know someone that works for Texas, but the information you received was most likely that they were going to sign him which is far from surprising. An AHL contract does not prevent a player from going to the ECHL.

With the number of defenders Dallas and Texas has under contract, it's obvious no one (outside of probably Lukowich, Larsen, Blindenbacher, and Fortunus) is guaranteed roles in the AHL. Unless you've recently had a conversation with Joe Nieuwendyk about a forthcoming trade, Tyler Ludwig has major competition for a role in Austin. IMO, it's highly unlikely anyone told Tyler or anyone else that he was guaranteed an AHL spot.

7 NHL defenders: Robidas, Grossman, Daley, Fistic, Niskanen, Skrastins, and Woywitka

Dallas AHL/ECHL defenders: Lukowich, Larsen, Blindenbacher, Fortunus, Trevor Ludwig, Coyle, and Monast

Texas AHL/ECHL defenders: Matt Stephensen and Tyler Ludwig

They’re going to ice the best possible team which means there’s going to be competition. Joe and Mark are preaching the same stuff in Dallas so there’s no reason to assume they’re just handing out roles in Austin.

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Actually Scott White is my neighbor. Also, watching him play the last games last season he was a step ahead 3 of our other D (Stafford, Jan, and Hutchinson) Not to mention Tyler had the hardest shot after Vish left. Him and Trevor played very well together and I believe were actually positive unlike the 'vets' we had. No worries though, just throwing my input in.

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Actually Scott White is my neighbor. Also, watching him play the last games last season he was a step ahead 3 of our other D (Stafford, Jan, and Hutchinson) Not to mention Tyler had the hardest shot after Vish left. Him and Trevor played very well together and I believe were actually positive unlike the 'vets' we had. No worries though, just throwing my input in.
No problem ..... I just was shocked someone like Tyler would get a guarantee. Quick question though, why was Tyler not an option in the playoffs. They went with Ethan Graham instead , IIRC, when the injuries hit.

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Tyler wasn't on the clear out day roster.

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Tyler wasn't on the clear out day roster.
Neither was Chupp, but he played. I was under the impression that any player coming to the AHL from another team (NCAA or CHL) at the completion of their other teams season didn't have to be on the clear day roster.

IIRC, wasn't Eakin also playing for Hershey. He was in the same situation as Tyler.

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Players signed to ATO's after clear day rosters can play. It's happened all the time.

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I don't think Chupp played any playoff games. Maybe I'm wrong though..

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He played in 2 playoff games according to the AHL's site

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