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What is your preference?

View Poll Results: What is your preference?
I like to play with teammates that are lesser than me 6 10.71%
I like to play with teammates that are better than me 50 89.29%
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08-09-2010, 02:22 PM
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What is your preference?

Do you prefer to play with players that are better than you, or you would like to be on the team where you are among the best?

Answers " I like to play with equals" do not apply.

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08-09-2010, 02:24 PM
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I prefer to be one of the better players because I'm lazy and out of shape.

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08-09-2010, 02:35 PM
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I usually just play with myself.

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I like to be at least reasonably good compared to my peers. Being the worst on the ice sucks.

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I usually just play with myself.
Nice... Didn't I preclude such an answer?

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It depends.

I like playing AGAINST people better than me, but I like playing WITH a team where I'm one of the better guys (though it rarely happens because I suck). It gives me a chance to play my style of game, which is to try and lure players out of position in their defensive zone before hitting the open man with a pass. I'm a puck possession kind of guy, and I like teammates that believe in cycling down low.

When I play with guys better than me, it's usually just a matter of getting in position and waiting for the pass.

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08-09-2010, 04:25 PM
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I usually just play with myself.
me too

but when i join a league i want be able to hold my own but around player who are better so it will motivate me to be better

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08-09-2010, 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't want to be one of the worst players on my team. I prefer playing with and against people around my skill level, but if I had to chose between being one of the worst or one of the best on my team, I'd rather be one of the best, assuming we're still talking about a decent level of play. If we're talking about guys who are WAY worse, like a team full of beginners, that's just not fun, and in that case I'd rather be the worst on a stacked team, at least it would still be hockey.

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08-09-2010, 07:22 PM
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I like both. On one team I play for I'm one of the best players, and on the other team I'm one of the worst. I think you get different things out of playing with different skill levels.

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08-09-2010, 07:51 PM
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My work ethic, willingness to muck it up in the corners, and better than average skating speed allowed me to be a role player on some excellent hockey teams. It made me 10 times better that I ever would have been if I stuck to leagues where I was one of the best on my team.



Now that I play purely for fun I don't want to work that hard.

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I also like both situations. I like being a better player sometimes and I also like playing against better players. I think that playing against better players, makes you better.

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I was one of the better players on m team last season. I spent half of last season player with lessers and half playing top line with our captain and one of our top scorers.

I much preferred playing with the better players.

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I like playing with players less than myself. If I know I am (one of) the best than I am 100% comfortable handling the puck, making key decisions... basically running the show and quarterbacking things (which is honestly when I'm at my best). If I am afraid that I'm worse or just middle of the pack, I tend not to hold on to the puck as much and not play MY game and instead become to focused on "keeping up" to be at my most effective. Having played DI when I was in school, I'm not often in the second situation, but I know that whenever I'm not among the top 3-4 guys on the ice, I stop playing my game.

When I'm one of the better players I get to control the flow of play and in turn I'm able to create tons of opportunities for myself and my teammates. For example, I'll hold on to the puck, carry it up the ice, make a move at the blue line, drive wide, cut towards the net and ultimately draw a defender leaving someone open on the doorstep and than I'll make a quick dish. If I think I'm more middle of the pack I'm likely to dump and chase or throw it on net as I come across the blueline.

Could I have maybe made the same play as before? Yep, even if it's against the same defenders in both situations (meaning I could clearly do the same thing) I just get it in my head that I shouldn't be making those kinds of plays and should be letting the better guys handle the puck more.

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I've played seasons in both situations, and had much more fun playing at a moderately higher skill level than below it. My reasoning for it:

(a) It's a challenge; it drives me to become better, and my more experienced teammates (and sometimes opponents) have tips for me to help improve.

(b) They play smart, play their position, and typically do the right thing. As such, you learn to play smart as well.

(c) When I do win and/or do well against opponents tiered higher than me, it's a much stronger feeling of accomplishment.

(d) I'd rather play in a fast-paced, high-level game than a boring, slow game.

(e) Kind of greedy, but as a goalie, I'd rather the average skill level of our opponents be higher than our team's skill level. I love being pelted with dozens upon dozens of shots, even if it means we lose. I hate games where our team dominates and I only face a handful of shots.

And finally, in my experiences, higher-tiered players tend to be more relaxed and calm. Lower-tiered players tend to take things too seriously, lose their temper, and throw tantrums. There's certainly examples where a high-tiered player lost control, or a low-tiered player just walked away from a situation... but this is my observation in general.


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08-10-2010, 12:13 PM
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I'm on two teams now and I'm a top 2 or 3 player on each team, so I don't really know. I certainly wouldn't want to be the worst player on a team, and I do enjoy being one of the best, but I haven't tried playing on better teams yet.

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Depends on my mood and confidence and what situation.

There are times when I'm feeling really strong with the puck and maybe it's an open clinic or something like that and I want to help people around me get better.

Then there are game situations in leagues where I want to play around people who are better so I can play faster and be pushed harder.

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I like having control over what I can control. If I'm one of the best players on the team, if we lose, it's often because the rest of the team couldn't step up. If I'm one of the worst players, I can chip in by hustling, doing dirty work, passing, playing good D and being in the right position. Even if my skills aren't top notch, I can contribute in other ways.

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08-10-2010, 07:12 PM
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If I could vote I would vote Lesser.

I play 3 levels, the top level, which I play defense, I am just average, nothing more, and there are quite a few players that are much faster and better then me. But I learned to know my limits so I stay in good position.

I play in a lower level, which I play defense also, I am one of the better defenseman and one of the better players on the team but I do not dominate in any way.

And I also play in a lower level with my old HS buddies. The players are not terrible in the league but I do have an advantage in skating and stickhandling in this level, I play offense in this level and i've led the league in points/goals the past 4 seasons (not this year, down year for me, only on pace for just over a Goal a Game, usually been 1.75 goals a game.).

I enjoy the playing with lower level teammates and have to be look upon to score and help the team. I don't feel as important in the higher levels.


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08-10-2010, 07:32 PM
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Both. I also like a good mixture inbetween - when both sides are even.

The players that I'm playing with I don't mind being all less than me, ONLY when most know how to skate, play and set up basic hockey plays (i.e.: pass once in the zone and go to the font of the net, or, move to a open position for a pass or when looking for a pass, always keep moving around). When I play with mostly plugs on my side - the ones that just skate around and stand around looking for a pass - aggravates me and bores the **** out of me. It makes me feel and starat playing like garbage... Especially when you try making something happen and you go in one-on-five entering the zone because your teammates on the ice are take five seconds to start skating after standing in the defensive zone flat-footed...

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Honestly, I like being one of the better players, but I'm not that good, and I don't think I can carry a team at any level yet. Sometimes when you play with people who are way out of your league, particularly in pickups, the other guys just ignore you, playing as though you aren't there, which gets kind of frustrating; you fumble one pass and you don't see another pass for the rest of the game.

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I always liked to play with players better than me. How can you get better playing with worse players?

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I like playing with guys better than me. I consider myself to be good. I played NA juniors and college club. I'm too competitive. I like having teammates that know what they are doing and can "play" the game. If I'm the best on my team, I tend to try to do too much. I have no confidence that my teammates will do their jobs and end up trying to do everything and get frustrated.

Playing against better competition is also more fun IMO. I start doing silly stuff or try to do too much when I think the other team is below my skill level. The perfect mix would be equal skill sets on both teams. That's the most fun, challenging and rewarding for me.

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I like both. On one team I play for I'm one of the best players, and on the other team I'm one of the worst. I think you get different things out of playing with different skill levels.
kinda agree. If you go too low its just god damn frustrating. guys don't know what to do or where to be. But then you do get to work on selfish aspects of your game.

That said I much prefer playing with guys around or above my level, its more competitive and helps you to learn and get better. I play a B, C+, and D league. The B and C+ are the most fun.

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Play with better, get better.

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Play with better, get better.
That is not true. You can get better being the best on your team. Besides, if you want to get better, playing is not the best way to get there. Practice is.

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