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04-07-2005, 10:25 PM
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Six degrees of separation: 1917-2005

Just wondering how few players it can take to go from 1917 to 2005 without missing a year?

Working backwards, Yzerman goes to 1984...hmmmm...Stevie to Cashman (was he playing in 84?) goes to 1967 (Cash's rookie year)..over to Gordie ..then Gordie goes back to 1946..then.....

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Aubrey "Dit" Clapper from 1946-47 back to 1927-28

Clint Benedict from 1927-28 to 1917-18

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How about trying to connect players through teammates. Probably a lot harder.

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Mark Messier goes to 79.
Gordie Howe if you count his WHA years. If not then Stan Mikita goes to 58.
Rocket Richard goes to 42.
Dit Clapper goes to 27.
Clint Benedict goes to 17.

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How about trying to connect players through teammates. Probably a lot harder.
Ok.

Reg Noble was the last of the originals to retire so we'll go with him. He takes us to 33. He last played for the Maroons.

Paul Haynes takes us to 41, and the Canadiens.

Elmer Lach takes us to 54, and the Canadiens.

Jean Beliveau takes us to 71, and the Canadiens.

Guy Lapointe gets us to 84, and the Bruins.

Ray Bourque gets us to 01, and the Avalanche.

Alex Tanguay gets us to 04.

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Or working backwards:
From 2004 we have Ron Francis who was teammates with Dave Keon in Keon's final year and Francis's rookie season.
Dave Keon played with Red Kelly who dates back to 1945 with the Red Wings who had Syd Howe at the time, dating back to the early 30s, then I'm lost.
Another quick one may be naming any guy from the Red Wings in 95 who's still around: McCarty, Lapointe, Ward, Taylor, Yzerman, Fedorov, Primeau, Draper, Osgood, well whoever lasts longest. He played with Mark Howe in his final yearwho played with his dad in Hartford who played all the way back in '46 with the Wings. Wow, that does it just as quick as well.

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Or working backwards:
From 2004 we have Ron Francis who was teammates with Dave Keon in Keon's final year and Francis's rookie season.
Dave Keon played with Red Kelly who dates back to 1945 with the Red Wings who had Syd Howe at the time, dating back to the early 30s, then I'm lost.
You can go Howe to Frank Nighbor on the 29-30 Senators, which gets you back to 1917-18. But it doesn't matter, becauase Red Kelly came into the league in 1947, not 1945, so there's no connection from him to Syd Howe.

6 steps seems to be the minimum. But if Gordie Howe had started a year earlier and retired a year later, you could get it down to *four* steps - Nighbor, Syd Howe, Gordie Howe, Ron Francis.

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Gordie Howe didn't play in 71-72 or 72-73, so he's out as the bridge.

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Those who believe that Ron Francis have played for, what seems like, forever have a valid point. He admitted that his roomate, in his rookie year with the Whalers, was Dave Keon.

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Here's one with teammates, continuous and NHL only
Auriel Joliat played with
Hector "Toe" Blake who played with
Doug Harvey who played in NY with
Rod Gilbert who played with
Brad Park who played in Detroit with
Steve Yzerman.

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Here's one with teammates, continuous and NHL only
Auriel Joliat played with
Hector "Toe" Blake who played with
Doug Harvey who played in NY with
Rod Gilbert who played with
Brad Park who played in Detroit with
Steve Yzerman.
Joliat didn't play until 22-23, so you're not back to 17-18.

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Here's one with teammates, continuous and NHL only
Auriel Joliat played with
Hector "Toe" Blake who played with
Doug Harvey who played in NY with
Rod Gilbert who played with
Brad Park who played in Detroit with
Steve Yzerman.
cool!

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Haven't found a way to do it with only five players, I get stuck often in the 20s, 30s and 40s (continous with teammates), I don't know the players careers as well as more recent ones. It can be done with 5 generations playing against each other (non-teammates). Here's another six (teammates and continuous) that I believe works from 17-18 to last year.

Cy Denneny played in Ottawa with
Hec Kilrea who played in Detroit with
Sid Abel who played in Detroit with
Alex Delvecchio who played in Detroit with
Marcel Dionne who played in New York with
Brian Leetch

I think the Delvecchio, Dionne, Leetch connection is a neat one.

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George Boucher (1917-1932) played with Harold March (1928-1945) who played with Bill Mosienko (1941-1955) who played with Allan Stanley (1948-1969) who played with Gerry Meehan (1968-1979) who played with Mark Messier. The Messier-Meehan combination goes back to the WHA though.

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Habs - Can't do it with six

Brisebois Current to 1993
Carbonneau 1993 to 1981
Savard 1981 to 1967
Beliveau 1967 to 1951
Richard 1951 to 1942
Blake 1942 to 1933
Joliat 1933 to 1922
Vezina 1922 to 1917

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almost in 6 for the Bs

Clapper 1927-1947
Schmidt 1945-1955
Flaman 1954-1961
Bucyk 1957-1978
Middleton 1976-1988
Sweeney 1988-2002 (if the Bs had kept Sweeney I would have made it)

Thornton 1997-current

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Andre Boudrias 1970-1976
Dennis Ververgaert 1973-1979
Stan Smyl 1979-1991
Trevor Linden 1989-1998
Markus Naslund 1995-current

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Oilers

Kevin Lowe 1979-1998
Ethan Moreau 1998-present


...wow

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From 1940 to present.
Elmer Lach- 1940-54
Jean Beliveau: 1954-1970
Guy Lafleur: 1971- 1985
Claude Lemieux: 1985- 1990
Denis Savard: 1990-93
Ron Tugnutt: 1993-96
Saku Koivu- 1996- 2005

Almost perfect although it's 7 players instead of 6. But I dont think any degree could beat that one

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For the Habs since the dawn of the NHL (8 is the best I can find...)
Billy Coutu
Howie Morenz
Toe Blake
Doug Harvey
Henri Richard
Bob Gainey
Guy Carbonneau
Patrice Brisebois

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Here's Detroit
Ebbie Goodfellow (Cougars-Falcons) Wings 32-42
Sid Abel 38-51
Alex Delvecchio 50-74
Jim Rutherford 73-81 (with Wings)
Reed Larson 76-86 (with Wings)
Steve Yzerman 83-04

I can't find a better way to connect Delvecchio to Yzerman to get it down to five.

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Got the Habs in 7

Chris Chelios [active] played wtih
Guy Lafleur [1983-84] played with
JC Tremblay [71-72] played with
Rocket Richard[59-60] played with
Jack Portland [42-43] played with
Aurele Joliat [33-34] played with
Joe Malone[22-23], who played in 1917

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Got the Habs in 7

Chris Chelios [active] played wtih
Guy Lafleur [1983-84] played with
JC Tremblay [71-72] played with
Rocket Richard[59-60] played with
Jack Portland [42-43] played with
Aurele Joliat [33-34] played with
Joe Malone[22-23], who played in 1917
Nice work: Chelios came to the Habs after the 84 Olympics and was often paired with Kurvers. The shot that hit Kurvers in the eye losing his sight was cleared out of the zone by Lafleur.

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