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08-15-2010, 10:02 AM
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I can only go based on what I've read, but do the majority of you agree that Kristo is a higher prospect than Tinordi and Leblanc?
Well in terms of NHL readiness, for sure. But from what I have read, which is what 90%+ of what people here go by, apparently Leblanc has a much more rounded game

I'm under the impression that Leblanc has wildcard dominating qualities that, if they peak through, would put him ahead of Kristo. And I am also under the impression that with Kristo, you know what you get, and his personal potential will be much safer to attain that Leblanc's.

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08-15-2010, 10:26 AM
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Steve Kasper
Alyn McCauley
Kevin Devine
George Armstrong
Michael Futa
Jason Rowe
Pat Funk
Adam Creighton
Mike McGraw
Ryan Vinz
You know a list is going to be good when it starts with Steve Kasper; the guy who was fired as the Bruins' head coach after putting together one of the worst seasons in franchise history and missing the playoffs for the first time in 28 years. Last I heard he was coaching out here for Yarmouth in the CJAHL.

But back to the point, I've just done a preliminary Google search for "(First few members of list) + Pacioretty" and yielded no direct links to their opinions concerning MaxPac. Is this just a list of scouts/whatever you are familiar with, or is it possible to provide links to their opinions so I can check both the content and the date they formed their opinion (i.e. had they the opportunity to base it off of Max's full 86 NHL game and 55 AHL game resume, like Bross)?

Again, though, I don't dispute the suitability of the term "prospect" when referring to Pacioretty. I dispute taking issue with those who seem to be in their rights NOT to.

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08-15-2010, 10:33 AM
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Great read.


Considering how well Eller did in the AHL, i consider him a much safer prospect than Tonordi/Leblanc/Kristo. I think he would have deserved a 7.5b.
Maxwell did about the same as Eller in his first AHL season, it really mean nothing.

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Maxwell did about the same as Eller in his first AHL season, it really mean nothing.
Maxwell wasn't far and away his team's best player like Eller.

Beware of numbers, they can be tricky and not tell the full story...

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Maxwell did about the same as Eller in his first AHL season, it really mean nothing.

Eller
- led his team in points by quite a fair margin, as a rookie
- had never played a season on north american ice before then
- had never played such a long season before then
- scored 2 goals in 7 NHL games


Maxwell
- had around the same point totals as 3 other guys
- played on north american ice his entire life
- been conditioned to the lengthened schedule for about half a decade
- contributed nothing on the scoresheet in 7 NHL games, and in 13 more a year later, he still done nothing


Sooo by 'same thing', did you mean..'completely different'?

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Eller
- led his team in points by quite a fair margin, as a rookie
- had never played a season on north american ice before then
- had never played such a long season before then
- scored 2 goals in 7 NHL games


Maxwell
- had around the same point totals as 3 other guys
- played on north american ice his entire life
- been conditioned to the lengthened schedule for about half a decade
- contributed nothing on the scoresheet in 7 NHL games, and in 13 more a year later, he still done nothing


Sooo by 'same thing', did you mean..'completely different'?
We could argue on that one since Maxwell got a lots of injuries in junior. Otherwise I totally agreed that Eller is a better prospect at this time but I was replying to the arguments that he's a 7.5C or B. We can't really say for now, Maxwell was 7B before if I remember well, He's now a 6.5B.

Anyway I've lost hope in Maxwell since he say that he see himself as a third liner, he really don't have anything to be efficients in the bottom line and he shown no competitiveness at all.

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08-15-2010, 11:27 AM
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Eller
- led his team in points by quite a fair margin, as a rookie
- had never played a season on north american ice before then
- had never played such a long season before then
- scored 2 goals in 7 NHL games


Maxwell
- had around the same point totals as 3 other guys
- played on north american ice his entire life
- been conditioned to the lengthened schedule for about half a decade
- contributed nothing on the scoresheet in 7 NHL games, and in 13 more a year later, he still done nothing


Sooo by 'same thing', did you mean..'completely different'?
You can add the fact that Eller played with mononucleosis for the first part of the calendar last year, and that he had much less offensive support than Maxwell did back then with guys like Trotter, Desharnais, Glumac, Lehoux, Weber and Pacioretty.

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Maxwell does have talent. He lacks a sense of agency.
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We could argue on that one since Maxwell got a lots of injuries in junior. Otherwise I totally agreed that Eller is a better prospect at this time but I was replying to the arguments that he's a 7.5C or B. We can't really say for now, Maxwell was 7B before if I remember well, He's now a 6.5B.

Anyway I've lost hope in Maxwell since he say that he see himself as a third liner, he really don't have anything to be efficients in the bottom line and he shown no competitiveness at all.

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Maxwell does have talent. He lacks a sense of agency.
Like, the Central Intelligence kind? Or 'urgency'?

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Like, the Central Intelligence kind? Or 'urgency'?


I think Maxwell has the talent and hockey sense but lacks strength, confidence and aggresiveness. Hopefully he will gain all of these as he matures and becomes a late bloomer type.

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Maxwell reminds me of Chris Higgins in the way that both of them have tremendous skill, but neither of them seem to show much confidence in themselves when they are out on the ice. Higgins couldn't get out of his own way sometimes, and other times he took full charge of the ice. Too bad that as time progressed he did less and less of the latter and more and more of the former

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