1. My first ever NC win yesterday. As usual I forgot about the NC and played my kids but I was blessed with a newb opponent for once.
2. My stud trainer from the past few seasons has hit the skids this year. Last year he averaged about 41% - so far this season (league, league, NC): 33, 28, 24.
He's 23 now, and still has 29P. My T/R hit 100 during the off-season.
There seem to be a lot of variables with the way training works that I have yet to understand. I spotted this thread yesterday, but most of the information in there seems contradictory. In general there seem to be inexplicable differences in similar players and how well they train. Can anyone shed some light on this?
1. My first ever NC win yesterday. As usual I forgot about the NC and played my kids but I was blessed with a newb opponent for once.
2. My stud trainer from the past few seasons has hit the skids this year. Last year he averaged about 41% - so far this season (league, league, NC): 33, 28, 24.
He's 23 now, and still has 29P. My T/R hit 100 during the off-season.
There seem to be a lot of variables with the way training works that I have yet to understand. I spotted this thread yesterday, but most of the information in there seems contradictory. In general there seem to be inexplicable differences in similar players and how well they train. Can anyone shed some light on this?
It is because of his potential, a max or max-1 player will have full training untill he turns 25, where it will drop about 10-12 percent.
For instance one of my players trained an average of 41 percent as a 24 year old, then he turned 25 and he trained an average of 27 in this particular case.
Thats why a max-3 player might be ahead at the age of 20 compared to a max-1 player, but still be behind in ai at the age of 30 compared to the same player.
That is excatly what happened to my 2 best yps (both 95Q), one is now 31 years old max-1P with 341 ai and the max-3P guy, who was a fair bit ahead all along, is now 326 ai at the age of 29 and both have pretty much peaked in terms of ai.
Yet another reason why potential is so damn important.
Last edited by Forsbergwannabe: 08-19-2010 at 10:25 AM.
It is because of his potential, a max or max-1 player will have full training untill he turns 25, where it will drop about 10-12 percent.
For instance one of my players trained an average of 41 percent as a 24 year old, then he turned 25 and he trained an average of 27 in this particular case.
Thats why a max-3 player might be ahead at the age of 20 compared to a max-1 player, but still be behind in ai at the age of 30 compared to the same player.
That is excatly what happened to my 2 best yps (both 95Q), one is now 31 years old max-1P with 341 ai and the max-3P guy, who was a fair bit ahead all along, is now 326 ai at the age of 29 and both have pretty much peaked in terms of ai.
Yet another reason why potential is so damn important.
Thank you. Today has been a real eye-opener for me. Between this and that Dutch tool, I may need to totally rethink my roster.
Damn, first loss of the season came by one goal. I was checking out the rest of the league today using HA tools and I realized that I only had the 7th best average AI in my league. Starting to get a little annoyed that my top line is getting a lot of shots on net but no goals. At least I had one of my players train at 61 today (highest ever for me).
Last edited by thecupismine: 08-19-2010 at 08:38 PM.
Rudolf$ Kronberg$ has 3 goals and an assist already. Tied for the league lead in goals. Oh, cool. Mierz Nasty picked up his 3rd star this season. The big line is doing next to nothing so far. I'm going to need those boys to step it up soon.
Apparently despite being the 2nd lowest AI in my league and some of that supposed AI not even being on the ice, I won my second road game tonight. This one made more sense then the opener as I beat the Syracuse Southside Bullies 2-1 on goals by Julien and Vickers.
This was supposed to be the season that I took a major drop and headed back down to the IV league, but guess my team won't get sent down without a fight.
3-2 OT win over Pittsburgh Power for the first win of the season. I was sweating bullets through the match broadcast. Holbrook with the tying goal on the PP, Irizarry with the game-winner, and Rushing kept us in the game for the first win of the season to earn himself 2nd star of the game honors.
Moose was injured for four days. That sucks since his P means he won't have a very long development time. Holy crap! Unsworth got injured in the game too.
Even though it was a win tonight, I have a bad feeling about this season. It's looking like it will be a tough fight to avoid relegation. The only solace I can take is the fact that I know I would dominate in V and be back in one season.
This is a pretty interesting tool that was posted on the Canadian forum.
Here's a link to the Google translation. Choose "Ja" from drop-down list for display of seasonal player progress calculation. I didn't use this until the end.
Set language to Danish (Dansk) then go to the player's page, View Page Source (Ctrl + U in FireFox or right-click/View menu), and copy & paste it into the form. Calculations are noted as being generous at earlier ages and there is some form of decay on predictions as players age. Algorithm is slightly flawed in its ignoring of the 150% rule. Also, it states ignorance of potential sequence but calculation progress appears to contradict this (??).
I tried it and a few predictions were accurate, others were not. From results I originally guessed it was subject to high volatility given daily fluctuations in training. Then looking at the calculation progresses, which I had ignored before, this conclusion was blatant. The numbers normalize over time due to training values approaching realistic levels - e.g. no more age 17/18 boosts. Since it is dependent on daily training, it is also highly coupled with TOI and other standard training factors (T&R, match importance, energy, etc.).
I'm interested in tracking this information day-by-day but I'll see if I can be bothered with the required effort. It'd be nice to take the weekly or seasonal averages.
If you enter a player and get a non-calculation, and some funky message, apparently entering in players with 0% daily training isn't a good idea. Maybe my brethren broke it. Certainly not me. Wait for it to unbreak I guess. >_>
This is a pretty interesting tool that was posted on the Canadian forum.
Here's a link to the Google translation. Choose "Ja" from drop-down list for display of seasonal player progress calculation. I didn't use this until the end.
Set language to Danish (Dansk) then go to the player's page, View Page Source (Ctrl + U in FireFox or right-click/View menu), and copy & paste it into the form. Calculations are noted as being generous at earlier ages and there is some form of decay on predictions as players age. Algorithm is slightly flawed in its ignoring of the 150% rule. Also, it states ignorance of potential sequence but calculation progress appears to contradict this (??).
I tried it and a few predictions were accurate, others were not. From results I originally guessed it was subject to high volatility given daily fluctuations in training. Then looking at the calculation progresses, which I had ignored before, this conclusion was blatant. The numbers normalize over time due to training values approaching realistic levels - e.g. no more age 17/18 boosts. Since it is dependent on daily training, it is also highly coupled with TOI and other standard training factors (T&R, match importance, energy, etc.).
I'm interested in tracking this information day-by-day but I'll see if I can be bothered with the required effort. It'd be nice to take the weekly or seasonal averages.
If you enter a player and get a non-calculation, and some funky message, apparently entering in players with 0% daily training isn't a good idea. Maybe my brethren broke it. Certainly not me. Wait for it to unbreak I guess. >_>
Edit: Now unbroked. Hooray!
Interesting tool, to say the least. Like you said, I'd be curious to see weekly averages to see if they're more realistic. Needless to say, I think the accuracy of the system in regards to the young players I checked was far too generous as they won't be training at the level they did today for the rest of the season (not every day is a game day).
Straight up embarrassed 10-0. Oh well, the guy has the top AI in the league and I played on low but still, I thought my goalie would hold me in a bit better than that.
an auction was supposed to just end, and now its been extended by another whole day.
wtf?
NEWS FOR TEAM
21.08 - Deadline player Hisayuki Miura on the market was extended by 1 day due to unavailability of the game during the original deadline.
clearly if I bid on him with a minute left, he wasn't unavailable due to the game update.
Which one was it?
