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08-09-2010, 10:12 AM
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Mount Suckmore

We had the Puckmore, now let's do the Suckmore. Which are the worst four players for the Wild?

Obviously it'd be easy to just rattle off the obscure names from 2000-01, but put a little creativity into it for Christ's sake.

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08-09-2010, 10:22 AM
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It's easy to pick Dmen, so I'm going to go with a forward.

Veilleux.

Yeah, that's right. People who liked him say that he was definsively great, fairly physical, and would put in 10 goals a year. And they are correct.

But anybody with any hockey sense saw that that Veilleux killed more offensive chances than anybody else in Wild history. I've never seen a player make that many wrong decisions in the offensive zone. Whether it was cycling the puck to nobody, turning the puck over to the Dman, taking a terrible shot through 5 defenders, or missing the net completely.

When Veilleux stepped on the ice, a giant black-hole for offense was created - for both teams.

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Sheppard and Thelen have to be there

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Veillieux also had what is an increasingly scarce quality in the NHL: heart. One of the only guys on the Wild in the earlier years (besides Walz) who would actually put 100% effort in every single shift. Not very effective for all that, but still enough to put him over the likes of ineffective players such as Branko Radivojevic who actually had a little bit of ability but tanked whatever chance of fourth line potential he had by being friggin lazy as fk.

my nominees (off the top of my head) in no particular order:

Branko Radivojevic

Steve McKenna

Brad Brown

Eric Reitz

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Is there a Crazy Horse monument to Minnesota Wild drafting?

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Veillieux also had what is an increasingly scarce quality in the NHL: heart. One of the only guys on the Wild in the earlier years (besides Walz) who would actually put 100% effort in every single shift. Not very effective for all that, but still enough to put him over the likes of ineffective players such as Branko Radivojevic who actually had a little bit of ability but tanked whatever chance of fourth line potential he had by being friggin lazy as fk.

my nominees (off the top of my head) in no particular order:

Branko Radivojevic

Steve McKenna

Brad Brown

Eric Reitz
A pass to nobody is still a pass to nobody, no matter what the intentions.

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I'm gonna limit it to guys that played at least 50 games with the Wild, so no Sean Hill, Scott Ferguson, Hnat Domenichelli, or Steve McKenna.


Aaron Gavey

Kyle Wanvig

Brad Brown

Alex Henry


My "All Obscure Four" would be Tomas Mozjis, Chris Armstrong, David Cullen, and Steve Kelly.

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Sylvain Blouin
Ladislav Benysek
Brad Brown
Derek Boogaard

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A pass to nobody is still a pass to nobody, no matter what the intentions.
an ugly chick is still an ugly chick, but if i had to choose I'd take the one with the porsche.

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an ugly chick is still an ugly chick, but if i had to choose I'd take the one with the porsche.
haha

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an ugly chick is still an ugly chick, but if i had to choose I'd take the one with the porsche.
Sound advice.

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an ugly chick is still an ugly chick, but if i had to choose I'd take the one with the porsche.
What if it was this Porsche:


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What if it was this Porsche:

heh. well i don't have a tonne of time or a garage so, pass. Er, if it drives, at least she can drive me home after. *shudder*

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Hmm...my 4..

Steve McKenna
Roman Simicek
Peter Bartos
Sylvain Blouin

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Oh man LiG, I totally forgot about Roman Simicek. I wish I could go back to that time now...

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There has never been a player I ripped more than Ladislav Benysek! OH MY GOD was he a horrible defenseman!

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There has never been a player I ripped more than Ladislav Benysek! OH MY GOD was he a horrible defenseman!
Remember when he scored 4 goals in practice, so lemaire put him at Wing for a game?

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Remember when he scored 4 goals in practice, so lemaire put him at Wing for a game?
I don't recall that specific incident... no. I'm sure I ripped that at the time too though.

He was the single worst player this team has ever consistently put on the ice. There have been a lot of players that people said didn't belong in the NHL... Dupuis, Veilleux, Pouliot.... but most of those players have remained in the NHL with other teams after their time here was done.

Benysek was never in the NHL BEFORE the Wild, and when the Wild didn't re-sign him, he's never been in the NHL since!

Think about it guys... at the time you would be BEGGING for JL to give Brad fricking Brown more ice-time so you didn't have to watch Benysek!


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Uh...not true...

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I don't recall that specific incident... no. I'm sure I ripped that at the time too though.

He was the single worst player this team has ever consistently put on the ice. There have been a lot of players that people said didn't belong in the NHL... Dupuis, Veilleux, Pouliot.... but most of those players have remained in the NHL with other teams after their time here was done.

Benysek was never in the NHL BEFORE the Wild, and when the Wild didn't re-sign him, he's never been in the NHL since!

Think about it guys... at the time you would be BEGGING for JL to give Brad fricking Brown more ice-time so you didn't have to watch Benysek!
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=13120

As you can see, Ladislav Benysek did have his first "cup of coffee" in the NHL with the Edmonton Oilers, not the Wild. I don't think Benysek was nearly as bad as you say he was. He certainly was the team's first whipping boy as a defenseman, but not the worst overall.

I think other guys we had for smaller call ups were much worse; like Chris Armstrong, Mike Matteucci, or Ian Herbers were far worse. McKenna is the least talented player to ever wear the Wild sweater.

Other names that should at least garner honorable mention for Mount Suckmore: Tony Virta, Sergei Krivokrasov, Dieter Kochan, Christian Matte, Darryl LaPlante, Brian Bonin, James Sheppard, Erik Westrum (especially when you consider who the Wild traded, Zbynek Michalek, to get him), Jason Morgan, and Andrei Nazarov.

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Chris Simon!

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Chris Simon!
but in his career Simon actually was near the top performers of his "role" and still managed to put together better seasons than most of the players we've had penciled in as grinders or even "scorers" ever will
lets see Jimmy sheppard score 29 goals (for instance).

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