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08-20-2010, 07:33 PM
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People in the thread think the Pens signed Kovy. Asham brings nothing to the table other than about 20 points
Agrred. I really like Asham but he isn't any better then what Carcillo or Powe bring and he isn't the forechecker theat they are which is needed in Lavi's system.

People keep comparing him to Shelley but their roles aren't the same. Teams placed a value on having a H/W enforcer, just look at the contracts to guys like boogey, shelley, and King. Hell, Peters is only making $200M less then Asham.

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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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08-20-2010, 07:40 PM
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nobody wants Shelley.
My point exactly.

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08-20-2010, 07:48 PM
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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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He will surprise you once in a while, he will score when he's given the chance and if he has other good players on his line he will be even better. But once in a while he'll make a boneheaded move and you'll just wonder why he's in the NHL, but that's rare.

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08-20-2010, 07:51 PM
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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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Not at all like Cooke. Asham is as slow as the come and he's not really a big hitter.

However, Asham is a decent fighter, has underated hands and a good slapshot.

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08-20-2010, 07:53 PM
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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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He is gritty, aggressive, a third/fourth liner. Decent hands. He was a respected and liked teammate, too.

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08-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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Smaller version of Rupp?

Slow, very slow and doesn't forecheck very well but he is tough as nails and if some gets him the puck he can finish better then most people think.

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08-20-2010, 08:03 PM
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Meh. He was a fan favorite and team player, but I don't see him making a real difference on the Pens unless he is playing with a playmaker on the same line. A lot of his points were the result of playing a lot of his time with Giroux.

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08-20-2010, 08:04 PM
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1 year $700K
Wellllllll,... I guess Pittsburgh got the Hometown Discount.


Seriously, folks... That is only $150K more than what Cote walked away from... That would have almost covered him... $400K less than Shelley. I supposed he waited as long as possible and then went to another good team with a shot at the Cup, one still in the East where he has spent his entire career to-date, IIRC.


IMO, Asham could certainly have played in Lavvy's system... as well as Carbomb as I see it, and better than Shelley... while playing a regular shift and double Shelley's minutes more than likely. True, he can't beat the true heavyweights like Jody, but he will take them on just as quickly. Do the Flyers really need a H/W enforcer?

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08-20-2010, 08:20 PM
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always got the feelign asham didnt like Carcillo at all. Guess we will find out. Asham and cooke can now go out to dinner. Rather have had Asham than Powe.

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always got the feelign asham didnt like Carcillo at all. Guess we will find out. Asham and cooke can now go out to dinner. Rather have had Asham than Powe.
actually they were friends.

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08-20-2010, 08:46 PM
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Meh. He was a fan favorite and team player, but I don't see him making a real difference on the Pens unless he is playing with a playmaker on the same line. A lot of his points were the result of playing a lot of his time with Giroux.
he had a tendency last year to get into some great spots...and then miss the net or hit the goalie's chest, too. there were a lot of "i wish someone else had that puck" moments...but at least he was getting himself into those positions, i guess.

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He will surprise you once in a while, he will score when he's given the chance and if he has other good players on his line he will be even better. But once in a while he'll make a boneheaded move and you'll just wonder why he's in the NHL, but that's rare.

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Not at all like Cooke. Asham is as slow as the come and he's not really a big hitter.

However, Asham is a decent fighter, has underated hands and a good slapshot.
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Smaller version of Rupp?

Slow, very slow and doesn't forecheck very well but he is tough as nails and if some gets him the puck he can finish better then most people think.
Sounds like a really good depth-player then, his speed might be a problem with the aggressive forechecking system being employed by the penguins but it sounds like if he gets paired up with malkin (which isn't that impossible considering the surplus of bottom6 talent and how few players we have that can man the top 6) he'll fit in pretty good. Thanks for the info guys!

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08-20-2010, 09:07 PM
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Sounds like a really good depth-player then, his speed might be a problem with the aggressive forechecking system being employed by the penguins but it sounds like if he gets paired up with malkin (which isn't that impossible considering the surplus of bottom6 talent and how few players we have that can man the top 6) he'll fit in pretty good. Thanks for the info guys!
IMO, he'll be fine in that system... Lavvy utilized him well during the last half of the season and in the postseason. I doubt however that he will play with Malkin... at least not for more than a couple cameos here and there. I'd expect him to be on the third or forth lines with spot duty on the second if pressed... no matter how many bottom six players you have and lack of top six; he is just not a consistent point produce and as has been pointed out, he is not a finisher.

I think you got a real nice team player and quite a bargain... I just hope he doesn't come back to bite the Flyers in the arse.


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08-20-2010, 09:16 PM
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Should have kept this guy. And at 700k I'd take him over Shelly.

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08-20-2010, 09:19 PM
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Sounds like a really good depth-player then, his speed might be a problem with the aggressive forechecking system being employed by the penguins but it sounds like if he gets paired up with malkin (which isn't that impossible considering the surplus of bottom6 talent and how few players we have that can man the top 6) he'll fit in pretty good. Thanks for the info guys!
Excellent 4th liner capable of subbing in on the 3rd line. Has decent hands and a decent shot that he'll use to pot in about 20 points a year and one "wtf was that ****, omg!" highlight reel goal a year. Can and will fight when he wants to. Reportedly a good teammate and person.

I wouldn't say he's like Cooke at all really. Carcillo is more like Cooke then Asham.

Anyways, this off-season just feels and ends up ****tier the longer it goes on.

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This hurts more than I thought it would considering we had all pretty much already known he was gonna leave.

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Anyways, this off-season just feels and ends up ****tier the longer it goes on.
It really does. To think back to having such high hopes in late June makes me ill. Almost every move has been a step backwards.

How a person can **** up what should have been the easiest of offseasons this badly is mindboggling.

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This hurts more than I thought it would considering we had all pretty much already known he was gonna leave.
To be honest, at first I thought he was all but gone... and then at the beginning of August the reports suggested he was holding out for Homer to work things out... The longer he was not signed the more I thought that it might get done with the Flyers... My hopes were just dashed.

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It really does. To think back to having such high hopes in late June makes me ill. Almost every move has been a step backwards.

How a person can **** up what should have been the easiest of offseasons this badly is mindboggling.
every time homer makes a move, an angel gets its wings torn off by badgers.

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It really does. To think back to having such high hopes in late June makes me ill. Almost every move has been a step backwards.

How a person can **** up what should have been the easiest of offseasons this badly is mindboggling.
Yeah, I felt the same. I had never been as excited for an off-season as I was going into this one and now it's, without a doubt, the most disappointing and depressing off-season I've seen.

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It's obviously not a huge move, but I'm pissed that he signed with Pitt. I hate the Pens so ****ing much and I loved what Asham brought for his role. Whatever, glad the dude got a contract.

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****. Good on Asham, but this offseason has blown so hard.

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I'm curious as to why exactly Asham was a fan favorite on the Flyers. I never really watched his game much, other than the few odd goals he seemed to score - at times he looked like a natural goal scorer when he scored but he rarely did so... I never liked the guy because I hated his face. He looks like Moe from the Three Stooges.

It will be weird rooting for him now... like LeClair.

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Hey guys, came here to ask you who have seen Asham all year what kind of player he is. The people over at the pens board liken him to Matt Cooke, and I was wondering if that's the case.

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he's not a gutless ****, so he's not like cooke.

by far, he's my favorite player, and it's going to kill me seeing him in a pens uniform.

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