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08-22-2010, 08:28 AM
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Montreal - Atlanta

Montreal

Desharnais
3rd round pick

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Who is Dasharnais?

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08-22-2010, 08:59 AM
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Who is Dasharnais?
A very small but ultra talented forward who put up great numbers at every level he has played so far...the only thing getting in his way of a NHL job is his size, and even then, he could very well make it. Last year, during a call up, he wasn't out of place. He could be a PP specialist.

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you really love to propose minor league trades, eh?

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08-22-2010, 09:13 AM
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you really love to propose minor league trades, eh?
I really have no idea what the point of some of his trades are.

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I really have no idea what the point of some of his trades are.
I dont know why people don't realize it, but Desharnais is a good player and everything, but thats not the problem. Montreal is small already in size, they are trying to bring size in for the next year or so. Machacek would add to Montreal's size and would fill out the bottom 6 well for us.

Desharnais I think will be a great NHL player like the other poster said he would be a PP specialist in the future. He has excelled at each level he has played.

White
Leblanc
Pacioretty
Engqvist

Machacek

that would be adding to our size for the next few years.

Its a fair deal in my eyes, as Desharnais would be able to make Atlanta's team possibly now or sometime this upcoming season. He just has a hard time to get in Montreal's lineup because it is set from top line to bottom dpairing. He was a call up because of injuries last season, and he played well and didn't look like he was playing in the NHL for the first time. He would get his playing time in Atlanta as they don't have a full 12 man forward roster.

I think each team gets what they want. Atlanta - offense, Montreal - Size

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um, sure, i guess.

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I'd do this. Mahacek is never going to make our team with Klingberg.

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I think it's not a bad trade for Atlanta

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no thanks..kids 5'6

Machecek has put up a respectable 48 & 49 pts in his 1st 2 pro seasons while already showing leadership attributes, being a plus player and a very responsible 2 way guy...tossing him away for a long shot makes zero sense..especially with Burmistrov filling the 'scorers void' in the coming seasons.

i like Spencers game and think he has the makings of a rock solid 3F with Ladd-like 2F potential.

and Klingberg is nothing more than hype as of now, he's raw and needs work..if he put up those 2 years in Chicago that Machs just did, fans would be raving.

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Well if you want to go by stats for Machacek, then take a look at Desharnais, he put up better numbers than Machacek in the A. The size is not an issue for the Habs, its the fact Montreal has a bundle of smaller forwards and they want to bring in size. Atlanta has Byfuglien, Ladd, Eager, Kane, Antropov.

I think this could help both teams. Desharnais doesn't let his size stop him from being a good player. He will be an NHL regular in the near future.

You just want to right Desharnais off because of his size, but he puts up better numbers than Machacek (77 games -57 point season and just this season he had 60 games - 78 point season). Its a fair deal, and helps both teams.

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yeah, and Nathan Gerbe is a PPG player in the AHL too, yet he cant crack Buffalos lineup, a lineup that needs scoring...stats are deceiving and size IS an issue..sorry, its true...he's likely going to be a tweener type, like Gerbe and many others before him..great in the AHL, not quite enough to be a consistent top 6 presence in the NHL.

i'll stick with Spencers overall game.

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Sorry - but the 'guy who loved small players' isn't GM here anymore - he's been the replaced by the 'guy who loves big players.' So it's not gonna float in Atlanta.

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Chances are hard to come by for players of Desharnais' stature. He's competitive and talented, though. I think if somebody really gave him a chance, he'd be a 20/20 guy in the NHL at minimum. But do teams settle for that, when there are other ways to get that in a less risky package? Not usually. If he does make it, he'll become a fan favourite.

As gamblor said, though, the Habs are already undersized up front, and that makes Montreal one of the worst places for Desharnais to try to break in. If he doesn't make it this year, I think he'd be wise to look elsewhere. And teams should keep an eye on him in the meantime. On a cheap contract or on waivers next year, he's worth a chance for sure.

I don't really know how Machacek is progressing. But I think the Habs have enough lunchpail types in the system. I never thought he had upside to produce in the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not saying he's not worth a 3rd rounder in general, but for the Habs specifically I'd just keep the 3rd. He doesn't fill an organizational need.

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I dont know why people don't realize it, but Desharnais is a good player and everything, but thats not the problem. Montreal is small already in size, they are trying to bring size in for the next year or so. Machacek would add to Montreal's size and would fill out the bottom 6 well for us.

Desharnais I think will be a great NHL player like the other poster said he would be a PP specialist in the future. He has excelled at each level he has played.

White
Leblanc
Pacioretty
Engqvist

Machacek

that would be adding to our size for the next few years.

Its a fair deal in my eyes, as Desharnais would be able to make Atlanta's team possibly now or sometime this upcoming season. He just has a hard time to get in Montreal's lineup because it is set from top line to bottom dpairing. He was a call up because of injuries last season, and he played well and didn't look like he was playing in the NHL for the first time. He would get his playing time in Atlanta as they don't have a full 12 man forward roster.

I think each team gets what they want. Atlanta - offense, Montreal - Size
Machacek has a frame relatively similar to Plekanec so I don't know where you're going with this. Reports talk about a gritty two-way game, which is nice and all, but to me he'd be a waste of a 3rd round pick, and Desharnais is still very intriguing despite his size.

I don't see him has having that much more upside than White, so I'd still go with home-groomed talent here.

Again, you're lucky to be the only one proposing Habs trades nowadays, because it's really getting ridiculous.

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I'd do this. Mahacek is never going to make our team with Klingberg.
Sorry Dudley Jr. but Mahachek will be on the team this year and get playing time. Klingberg is not ready and besides, he has a contract in Sweden. You of all people should know this.

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Chances are hard to come by for players of Desharnais' stature. He's competitive and talented, though. I think if somebody really gave him a chance, he'd be a 20/20 guy in the NHL at minimum. But do teams settle for that, when there are other ways to get that in a less risky package? Not usually. If he does make it, he'll become a fan favourite.

As gamblor said, though, the Habs are already undersized up front, and that makes Montreal one of the worst places for Desharnais to try to break in. If he doesn't make it this year, I think he'd be wise to look elsewhere. And teams should keep an eye on him in the meantime. On a cheap contract or on waivers next year, he's worth a chance for sure.

I don't really know how Machacek is progressing. But I think the Habs have enough lunchpail types in the system. I never thought he had upside to produce in the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not saying he's not worth a 3rd rounder in general, but for the Habs specifically I'd just keep the 3rd. He doesn't fill an organizational need.
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