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Latest RCMP Follies - Watching Detainees Engage in Sex?

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08-29-2010, 02:37 AM
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Latest RCMP Follies - Watching Detainees Engage in Sex?

Do they understand they are sworn to uphold the law??

The hits just keep on coming for this disgraced bunch of morons if the reports out of Kamloops are accurate.
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Kamloops Mounties, staff watched as HIV-positive woman had sex in cell block: Report

Mounties in Kamloops are not responding to media reports that an HIV-positive woman had a sexual encounter with another woman in an RCMP detachment holding cell as four officers and three municipal staffers looked on and did nothing to stop them.

Global News cited an inside source saying seven people at the Kamloops detachment are under investigation by Kamloops RCMP over the Aug. 18 incident involving two people in custody.

According to Global, the two women had an “intimate encounter” in the cell block for as long as an hour. Staff and Mounties watched video of the encounter for up to seven minutes without intervening, alleged the source.

Police confirm one of the two people involved is facing a criminal probe, presumably for allegedly failing to inform a sexual partner of her HIV status.

In a release Friday, RCMP Staff Sgt. Garry Kerr said “criminal and internal code-of-conduct investigations were immediately launched and are focused on the actions and or inactions of four RCMP members and three municipal staff.
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Kaml...235/story.html

Consider this in the light of the 15 RCMP Officers relieved of duty during the Vancouver Olympics for a range of misconduct. After trying to bury the story the media forced it into the open using Freedom of Information Requests - the RCMP is as good at stonewalling as they are at policing it appears.
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Fifteen members of the RCMP Vancouver 2010 Integrated Security Unit were sent home during the Games for misconduct that included skipping out of work to catch a hockey game and breaching a confidentiality agreement by taking pictures of Team Canada jerseys.

Another officer was sent home for coming to work without bullets. The majority of the incidents, however, involved “inappropriate intoxication,” allegations of unwanted sexual advances, and altercations between police officers and staff on the cruise ship that housed members of the security unit. One officer, RCMP Staff Sergeant Suzanne Denise Marie Martel of Ottawa, was criminally charged with shoplifting at a Burnaby store.

The incidents were disclosed by the BC RCMP at a news conference in Vancouver on Monday after receiving at least four Freedom of Information requests from the media.

The ISU has handed over all the files to the officers’ home forces, which will decide on further disciplinary action, said BC RCMP Inspector Tim Shields in an interview on Monday.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1629281/

The RCMP is dysfunctional and a national embarrassment - time to get rid of this 19th century anachronism and get educated professionals doing the job.

One can only conclude that the RCMP must be administering IQ tests and hiring as RCMP members those that fail.

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I suppose the journalists talking about it will find a black van outside their home soon

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How about this report from BC CTV dated August 16, 2010?
In the latest in a string of allegations against B.C. Mounties, a Kelowna officer has been charged with assault.

RCMP launched both code of conduct and internal investigations in February after an individual said he was assaulted by Const. Christopher Brinnen around closing time near a Kelowna nightclub.

Cpl. Annie Linteau told ctvbc.ca Brinnen will remain on active duty until the investigation is complete. He is due to appear in Kelowna provincial court Sept. 13.

Linteau says 18 British Columbian Mounties are currently facing charges for offences dating back to 2007.
http://www.rcmpwatch.com/another-b-c...-with-assault/

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Dating back to 2007? What is the holdup?

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Dating back to 2007? What is the holdup?
You may have noticed it takes 3-4 times as long for charges to be laid against police officers than ordinary citizens in the same circumstances. Remember RCMP officer Monty Robinson who was faulted during the Robert Dziekanski Inquiry? He killed a motorcyclist in a car accident in October 2008 and was not given a proper breathalyser. That took over one year before charges were laid and then only charges of with obstructing justice and not charges of impaired and dangerous driving causing death
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Moun...#ixzz0y1jbH6GC

And then as often happens the time period for internal discipline runs out and even if convicted the officer stays (and is often promoted).

Burnaby RCMP Constable Michael Pratt tried to claim that his behaviour was just part of a routine traffic check for a parking violation on a black Vancouver dentist but in this case another officer would not back his story up and told the truth.

Another officer who arrived on the scene as back-up, Constable Michelle Lakusta, testified at Pratt's trial that she asked Pratt afterward why he had reacted so strongly.

"He said he saw a black man in a nice car with an Oriental female and, given the area, he wasn't sure if it was possibly a prostitute-pimp situation,'' Lakusta said.

BTW as result of testifying to the truth Constable Lakusta was faced with ongoing harassment and resigned from the RCMP shortly afterwards.

The incident involving Dr. Kary Taylor (a friend of mine BTW) happened in February, 1999 on Edmonds Street near Canada Way.

Constable Pratt's police colleague testified that Pratt pulled over the dentist, because he saw a "black man in a nice car with an oriental female", and thought they might be a pimp and a prostitute. She had no problem telling the truth. BTW the "nice car" was five year old Camry - obviously a pimp's choice of wheels and the prostitute was a stewardess with Singapore Airlines on a date with Kary.

Within minutes, the officer dragged Dr.Taylor out of his car, put him in a choke hold, and then put a gun to his head, grinding it into his temple.

Pratt was found guilty of assault with a weapon but was allowed to keep his weapon.
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An RCMP officer convicted of assault after holding his gun to the head of a man he thought might be a pimp was told Friday he can still carry firearms for the purpose of police work.

A provincial court judge in Vancouver put Burnaby RCMP Constable Michael Pratt on probation for 18 months, ordered him to do 200 hours of community service work and imposed a $2,000 fine.

The probationary sentence means Pratt now has a criminal record, but Judge Erik Bendrodt imposed a firearms restriction that doesn't automatically prevent Pratt from continuing with the police career he began 10 years ago.

The judge ordered the 34-year-old man to surrender any firearms he owns and not to possess any firearms, ``except within the scope of your employment as a police officer.''
PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun
DATE: 2001.05.19
EDITION: FINAL C
SECTION: News
PAGE: B1 / Front
BYLINE: Glenn Bohn
SOURCE: Vancouver Sun

I do not know about you but I feel safer with this bozo running around with a firearm at hand.

BTW the RCMP did not begin disciplinary proceedings within time (6 months from the incident) and so Pratt faced no internal discipline. And received a plum assignment. Good message to send, eh?
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RCMP miss deadline to discipline convicted officer

RCMP brass lost their last chance to fire a constable convicted of assaulting a Vancouver dentist because they missed their own internal-discipline deadline.

Const. Michael Pratt resumed active duty this week with the executive diplomatic protective services in Vancouver, said spokeswoman Cpl. Danielle Efford.

Pratt had been on leave with full pay since August 1999.

Efford said, "The public interest was served by the courts."
PUBLICATION: The Province
DATE: 2002.02.07
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A4
BYLINE: Adrienne Tanner

Of course the fact that Pratt's father was former RCMP superintendent had nothing to do with this, eh?

Mantiens le Droit and all that stuff,eh? I know that I feel a lot safer with officers like Michael Pratt out of the street with guns at the ready.

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You may have noticed it takes 3-4 times as long for charges to be laid against police officers than ordinary citizens in the same circumstances.

Remember RCMP officer Monty Robinson who was faulted during the Robert Dziekanski Inquiry? He killed a motorcyclist in a car accident in October 2008 and was not given a proper breathalyser.

That took over one year before charges were laid and then only charges of with obstructing justice and not charges of impaired and dangerous driving causing death
If Monty Robinson wasn't wearing a badge, he would have been in prison two years ago. He's not only unfit to be a police officer, but also unfit to be in regular society. He makes me sick.

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Did the officers know that the woman was HIV-positive at the time? It's quite unfortunate how the media blasts the RCMP and police forces over some random trivial thing.

They're human being and therefore not perfect, but don't forget they put their lives in danger for you.

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Did the officers know that the woman was HIV-positive at the time? It's quite unfortunate how the media blasts the RCMP and police forces over some random trivial thing.

They're human being and therefore not perfect, but don't forget they put their lives in danger for you.
This is not random nor trivial.

Apparently the RCMP was aware of the detainee's HIV status which would make the sexual contact criminal in nature. Canadian courts have ruled that people who are not informed that a sexual partner is HIV-positive cannot truly give consent to sex.

Even if they were not aware this is totally unacceptable for police to permit this in cells.
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SFU criminologist Rob Gordon (a former police officer) said the Kamloops detachment’s recent history is concerning.

Calgary police are currently investigating a police-involved fatal shooting in Kamloops in late July.

“Certainly in the last month there’s been a couple of major events, and that usually amounts to more than simply bad luck, which suggests that there is some sort of structural problem, or supervision problem, or some other difficulty at the Kamloops detachment,” he said. “I have no doubt that RCMP detachment will be looking at that.”

Gordon said if they are true, the allegations of the officer’s actions are serious.

“That violates so many basic rules about the maintenance of order in cell blocks and the oversight of the conduct of not only prisoners but also officers,” he said.
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Kaml...#ixzz0y2XvI0dg

In November 2008, Winnipeg's Clato Mabior was sentenced to 14 years in jail for not disclosing his HIV to sex partners.

In 2009 a Hamilton jury found Johnson Aziga guilty of first-degree murder (two of his victims died of AIDS), making him the first HIV-positive man in Canada to be convicted of murder for recklessly spreading the AIDS-causing virus.

The RCMP roster of recent misdeeds is well beyond troubling at this point.

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I used to hang out with the met police offices who work at Gatwick airport and the stuff the got into put the rcmp to shame.

The gatwick detachment had a scandel when it was learned that three new female recruits--as part of initiations--performed sex acts on the senior members of the detachment

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Did the officers know that the woman was HIV-positive at the time? It's quite unfortunate how the media blasts the RCMP and police forces over some random trivial thing.

They're human being and therefore not perfect, but don't forget they put their lives in danger for you.
I can imagine how it all went:

"We should stop this..."
"Yeah, we should...
"But it's still kind of hot..."
"Totally..."

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I used to hang out with the met police offices who work at Gatwick airport and the stuff the got into put the rcmp to shame.

The gatwick detachment had a scandel when it was learned that three new female recruits--as part of initiations--performed sex acts on the senior members of the detachment
That sounds like a plot to porn movie/scene.

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A criminal investigation has been opened against the 4 RCMP members on jail duty that nights as well as 3 civilian staff involved. The RCMP members are also facing Code of Conduct proceedings while the City is investigating the conduct of the civilian municpal employees.
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/RCM...725/story.html

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Three of the four RCMP have now been suspended and all three of the city employees (two jail guards and a watch clerk). The suspension decision on the fourth RCMP officer is pending.
http://news.sympatico.cbc.ca/local/b...sions/f68f00e6

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Will they still get paid?

EDIT nevermind I read the article. Do they ever get suspended without pay?

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Will they still get paid?
Usually while the matter is being investigated.

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RCMP Misconduct Pays - Very Well

Here is an article just published on BC RCMP members who are suspended and are receiving salary and even getting raises while under suspension.

There are currently 16 BC RCMP members - 10 constables, four corporals, one sergeant and one staff-sergeant on paid suspension are costing the public, in total, between $81,000 and $108,000 a month in salaries, or $970,000 to $1.3 million a year. Across Canada that number of suspended Mounties totals 47.

Former police officer and SFU criminologist Robert Gordon who has been critical of the Mounties for past their previous "fox passes" notes officers can remain suspended with pay for years — even receiving annual raises — as their cases go through internal-discipline and court processes.

“It’s a reward for engaging in inappropriate conduct.”

“This just shows a fundamental lack of accountability to taxpayers,” says Maureen Bader, spokeswoman for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. “The government’s obviously got to speed up the process.”

The first civilian Commissioner of the RCMP has tried to make it easier to fire law-breaking Mounties has run into stiff opposition from the RCMP headquarters brass and the rank and file RCMP. Eight of the top RCMP brass in Ottawa tried to depose Elliott but they were rebuffed by the government who basically told them get onside or get out.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1696189/

The case of Amorous Mountie Trent Richards who thought policing required an intimate knowledge of women while on duty is used as the introduction to the story of the millions of dollars being paid to suspended Mounties:
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Mountie Trent Richards used his red serge uniform and “hot cop” cachet to entice women into having sex with him while he was on the job.

Ordered to resign for engaging in on-duty sex on 15 or 16 occasions, the Vancouver Island officer appealed the ruling. He has been receiving full pay — at least $265,000 so far — since he was suspended from work in January 2007.

Richards is not alone. There are now 16 B.C. RCMP members on paid suspension for alleged misconduct.

Officers can remain suspended with pay for years — even receiving annual raises — as their cases go through internal-discipline and court processes.
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Only one B.C. Mountie — Vancouver-based Const. Vernon Wilson, before the courts on multiple charges from two alleged 2009 drunk-driving incidents — is suspended without pay.
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Across Canada, 47 Mounties were on paid suspension as of March 31, the Ottawa Citizen’s Chris Cobb reports.
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At his disciplinary hearing, Const. Richards filed a statement accepting responsibility for his misconduct.

While at work in the small, rural Shawnigan Lake detachment, he visited Internet dating sites and had posted a picture of himself in his red serge uniform. In one post, he asked: “Up for sex with a hot cop?” In an email he said, “I’d be willing to use my cuffs.” He had on-the-job sex with four different women, continuing his escapades even after being told he was under a code-of-conduct investigation.

In February 2008, the RCMP disciplinary board ordered him to resign within 14 days. But because the decision must be provided in writing and served, it wasn’t until July 2008 that Richards was formally notified of the board’s decision, Linteau says. Then he appealed to the RCMP commissioner, triggering another process.

Richards’ internal appeal went first to the RCMP Professional Standards and External Review Directorate, which in October 2008 sent a report to the RCMP External Review Committee. A year and eight months later, that committee issued findings and recommendations to RCMP Commissioner William Elliott. The matter is still before Elliott, who was not available for comment.
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Elliott told the Ottawa Citizen’s Chris Cobb in April that the RCMP’s disciplinary system moved at a “glacial” pace.

“It is far too slow,” he said. “It is far too cumbersome and far too legalistic. We need to streamline that process and speed it up.”
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Susp...#ixzz0zQyUptd0

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