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08-30-2010, 04:50 PM
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This trade would bring us way way to close to the cap if we can not deal either lupul or blake, but if we could i think this would work and be pretty great.

Ryan signs a 2 year 9 mil contract and blake will be off the books and open up some cap room.



Peter Holland
Nick Bonino
2011 1st
2011 4th



Travis Zajac
Bryce Salvador


CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Matt Beleskey ($0.666m) / Ryan Getzlaf ($5.325m) / Corey Perry ($5.325m)
Bobby Ryan ($4.500m) / Saku Koivu ($2.500m) / Teemu Selanne ($4.500m)
Jason Blake ($4.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.887m) / Dan Sexton ($0.750m)
Kyle Chipchura ($0.650m) / Todd Marchant ($1.125m) / George Parros ($0.875m)
/ Joffrey Lupul ($4.250m) / Aaron Voros ($1.000m)

DEFENSEMEN
Lubomir Visnovsky ($5.600m) / Toni Lydman ($3.000m)
Andy Sutton ($2.125m) / Bryce Salvador ($2.900m)
Brendan Mikkelson ($0.687m) / Sheldon Brookbank ($0.750m)
/ Brett Festerling ($0.525m)

GOALTENDERS
Jonas Hiller ($4.500m) /Curtis McElhinney ($0.535m)

BUYOUTS: Nathan Oystrick ($0.197m)

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SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,173,750; BONUSES: $1,505,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $731,250

line them up however you want.

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08-30-2010, 05:10 PM
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no freakin way...that value is like 3 first round picks in my eyes

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no freakin way...that value is like 3 first round picks in my eyes
As in we give up too much ?

Cause this would make our offense super deep and another #3 defender.

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Zajac is a great #2 center.he is on a good contract and He is what we hope holland will be. Bonino is NHL ready for nj.

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I don't think that's even close to enough for Zajac. I'm not even sure he has much less value to them than say Bobby Ryan. So make an "Almost-Bobby-Ryan" bid.

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Not even close to enough. If Zajac is moved, which I doubt, it would take one of our top-3 defensive prospects, a 1st in 2011 and probably a cheap NHL ready forward like Belesky ( I don't believe Bonino is NHL ready).

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08-30-2010, 05:52 PM
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Doubt the Devils would trade Zajac right now as he's our de facto #1 center. For a team that seems more geared towards contending, it doesn't make sense to trade your top pivot for prospects even if the "value" might be right.

If the Kovalchuk thing ever happens (at this point, I'm not holding my breath), Zubrus/Salvador should be the logical candiates to be moved. Neither will fetch much, but losing them wouldn't create as big a hole as moving Zajac.

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Not even close to enough. If Zajac is moved, which I doubt, it would take one of our top-3 defensive prospects, a 1st in 2011 and probably a cheap NHL ready forward like Belesky ( I don't believe Bonino is NHL ready).
they cannot take on any salary. zajac is not even a first line center. his career high 67 points is a great 2nd line center but if he did not play with parise he would be a 50 point player IMO.

this trade would allow them to sign kovy to 10 mil a year.

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salvador=4th or 5th round pick

zajac=top prospect + 2nd or 1st + mid prospect + cheap nhl center

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Doubt the Devils would trade Zajac right now as he's our de facto #1 center. For a team that seems more geared towards contending, it doesn't make sense to trade your top pivot for prospects even if the "value" might be right.

If the Kovalchuk thing ever happens (at this point, I'm not holding my breath), Zubrus/Salvador should be the logical candiates to be moved. Neither will fetch much, but losing them wouldn't create as big a hole as moving Zajac.
would the value be fair to you and other nj fans?

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would the value be fair to you and other nj fans?
If you're a team with the hopes of contending for a Cup this year, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to trade Zajac. It's not so much value, but motivation.

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zajac is not even a first line center. his career high 67 points is a great 2nd line center but if he did not play with parise he would be a 50 point player IMO.
I think there's a bit of connotation involved with "first line" players. Not every team is going to have an All-Star caliber guy like Crosby, Getzlaf, Datsyuk, etc. The Blackhawks won a Cup with Jonathan Toews putting up 68 points (career high 69 a season before) as their top center.

Zajac has been improving the last few years. He looked absolutely lost in 2007-08, but now he's our top center and arguably our top PK forward.

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If you're a team with the hopes of contending for a Cup this year, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to trade Zajac. It's not so much value, but motivation.
you think zajac>the cap space for kovy


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I think there's a bit of connotation involved with "first line" players. Not every team is going to have an All-Star caliber guy like Crosby, Getzlaf, Datsyuk, etc. The Blackhawks won a Cup with Jonathan Toews putting up 68 points (career high 69 a season before) as their top center.

Zajac has been improving the last few years. He looked absolutely lost in 2007-08, but now he's our top center and arguably our top PK forward.
I agree that not everyone does need an allstar center but i wanted to say that before anyone claimed that since he is your first line center he is worth the return of a top center.

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they cannot take on any salary. zajac is not even a first line center. his career high 67 points is a great 2nd line center but if he did not play with parise he would be a 50 point player IMO.

this trade would allow them to sign kovy to 10 mil a year.

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salvador=4th or 5th round pick

zajac=top prospect + 2nd or 1st + mid prospect + cheap nhl center
It's not all about points. Zajac is a awesome 2-way center, is only 25 and is signed to a steal of a contract, for I believe 3 more seasons. There's just no way you get a player like him, for the sort of package you suggested. There are plenty of ways NJ can get under the cap, without trading their top line center.

The only reason I could see Zajac traded, is so they can get full value in a trade, instead of trading someone like Elias or Zubrus for practically nothing. Either way, I doubt we'll see anything come from this.

Also, your proposal did not even include what you consider the value of Zajac...Holland is not a top prospect.

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Even as a Duck fan, I don't see the Devils making this trade. We'd need to give up higher end prospects for this trade to come close.

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you think zajac>the cap space for kovy
I just think moving Zubrus and Salvador makes much more sense assuming the Devils sign Kovalchuk. We're pretty thin at center as is, which is why we traded for Arnott as a one year bridge. If there was a way to dump Rolston, that'd be perfect but I highly doubt that's happening.

Obviously Zajac would net something in return, whereas I'm not certain Zubrus or Salvador would even get picked up for free on waivers at this point.

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So you want New Jerseys top line centre without giving up anything really of value to a contending team? It doesn't work that way.

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