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08-21-2010, 06:05 PM
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Frolov MZA Gaborik
Prospal Dubinsky Callahan
Grachev Christensen Anisimov
Boogaard Drury Prust


i know im throwing guys around here but i really think these lines would work well. if MZA could play center that first line would rock pretty hard.

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08-22-2010, 01:17 PM
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Don`t count on MZA playing centre, thats not happening.

Anyway, I mentioned in an earlier post that I am 100% sure that he is playing in a top 6 role before christmas.

Now that we are approaching camp, I get a sneaky feeling he could be part of a scoring line before the end of October. He is that good.

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08-22-2010, 04:35 PM
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Don`t count on MZA playing centre, thats not happening.

Anyway, I mentioned in an earlier post that I am 100% sure that he is playing in a top 6 role before christmas.

Now that we are approaching camp, I get a sneaky feeling he could be part of a scoring line before the end of October. He is that good.
the Rangers have said in one quote that they signed him to play with Gabby.

In another quote, someone in the org. said ideally they would love to see Gabby and MZA play together.

SO, who knows!

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08-22-2010, 04:35 PM
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the Rangers have said in one quote that they signed him to play with Gabby.

In another quote, someone in the org. said ideally they would love to see Gabby and MZA play together.

SO, who knows!
By Him I mean frolov.

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08-22-2010, 06:38 PM
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Frolov-Anisimov-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Christensen-Callahan
Prospal-Drury-Avery
Boogard-White-Prust
Boyle,Zuccarello-Aasen

Staal-Del Zotto
Rozsival-Girardi
Redden-Gilroy
Eminger

Lundqvist
Biron

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08-22-2010, 07:32 PM
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Frolov-Anisimov-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Christensen-Callahan
Prospal-Drury-Avery
Boogard-White-Prust
Boyle,Zuccarello-Aasen

Staal-Del Zotto
Rozsival-Girardi
Redden-Gilroy
Eminger

Lundqvist
Biron
Would not fit under the cap. Redden would have to be sent down. Also no point in having MZA sit in the press box. If he's not in the lineup, he should be in HFD.

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08-30-2010, 02:10 PM
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bump bump I here a thump his name is the same as an assassinated President not named Lincoln. Getting a bit thick on wingers and bottomline centers now:

LW - Frolov, Dubinsky, Prospal, Boogaard, Avery, Kennedy, Grachev
C - Christensen, Drury, Anisimov, Boyle, White (DL?)
RW - Gaborik, MZA, Callahan, Prust, Weise

Hmmm...Lineup...hmmmmm

Frolov - Christ - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Prospal - Anisimov - MZA/Grachev/Weise
Avery/Boogaard/Kennedy - Boyle/Kennedy/Avery - Prust
  • White starts on DL - then to Hartford for conditioning?
  • Two of MZA, Weise and Grachev start year in Hartford - camp will decide this

On Defence:

Staal - Girardi
Rozi - MDZ
McDonaugh - Gilroy
Eminger
  • Redden is waived, passes through waivers and is loaned out to a team in Europe (Södertälje in SEL?)
  • I could see us trading Gilroy (if anoyone is a taker) and adding toughness ie Exelby somewhere down the line.
  • Hmmm - Sign Exelby at 600.000, trade Gilroy + one of Boyle/Kennedy + Ryan Bourque and Washingtons 2nd 2011 for Savard & trade Christ to FLA for a lower draft pick. Would work just barely, but only if Staal resigns at a lower number and length (say 3,5 million $$$ for 2 years...) than most think. Otherwise - no.

In goal we know...and trust...

CAP SITUATION

FORWARDS
Marian Gaborik ($7.500m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Alexander Frolov ($3.000m)
Ryan Callahan ($2.300m) / Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Sean Avery ($1.938m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m) / Derek Boogaard ($1.625m)
Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.822m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Tim Kennedy ($0.550m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)

DEFENSEMEN
Michal Rozsival ($5.000m) / * Marc Staal ($4.500m)
Daniel Girardi ($3.325m) / Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Steve Eminger ($1.125m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 23; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $58.572m; BONUSES: $2.587m; CAP ROOM: $0.828m

Hartford Wolfpack (or whatever they will be named)

Byers - White - Williams
Grachev - Stepan - Weise
Gratchev - Dupont - Newbury
Wilson - McNaught - Soryal

DiDiomete, Chapell


Valentenko - Sauer
Baldwin - Kundratek
Niemi - Williams

Parlett, Ringwald, Nightingale, McCue

Johnson (86)
Talbott


Drop the Puck!


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08-30-2010, 02:21 PM
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I think Klassen will challenge for a spot on Hartford's D this fall, we'll see what hes made of.

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08-30-2010, 02:24 PM
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Frolov-Christensen-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Prospal-Callahan
Avery-Anisimov-Drury
Prust-Boyle/Kennedy-Boogard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
McDonagh, Gilroy, and Eminger will be rotated as our bottom-pairing.

I think MZA starts out in Hartford.

If White's healthy he's a quality hockey player who belongs in the NHL, and is superior to pretty much all of our Centers offensively. If he's healthy, he deserves to start and may force some moves.

Boogard will play most nights, imo. The wingers on our 4th line are set.

Avery needs to play big if he's going to be a regular in our line-up, imo..

We've been very fortunate with injury's over the past few season's. It's nice having some depth incase we're not-so-lucky this year.

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08-30-2010, 02:36 PM
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The story of this year really is that we have a ton, and I mean a ton, of maybes. So many we are arguing over which of them fit in the lineup.

We have Todd White off the scrap heap, who is one season removed from 70 points, a barrier is is very possibly not a single one of our centers (Except maybe Stepan) will ever break. But he has injuries, and is hard to fit with our cap.

We have Mats Zuccarello-Aasen, who at a young age was the MVP of the 4th best hockey league in the world, and played at a similar level of offensive output to Peter Forsberg and Marcus Naslund (one year off a 24 goal season). But his size and the ability to play on a smalle rice surface against the Prongers and Webers of the NHL is an enormous maybe. I such a much higher probability of failure than of success.

We have Erik Christensen, who is a skating contradiction when it comes to talent and point production. Don't get me wrong, he isn't Enver Lisin, but we dont know if he'd score 20 points or 80 on a line with Gaborik over the whole season. Spending 7 mil on Drury as a third line center has forced us to take a chemistry gamble on our first line center for the next 2 years.

And then we have a fight for an alleged 3rd pairing defenseman spot when Redden is waived, with the knowledge thatthat player is either (A playing with Matt Gilroy) or (B Playing with Eminger) so we need him to be pretty solid. No one knows if it willl be McDonagh, the slick skating defenseman from Wisconsim with some balance problems, Valentenko, the mean Russian defenseman who has serious injury problems, or Sauer, the steady consistant stay at home defenseman.

Its really impossible to do anything other than spEKulate on the opening night roster at this point. And yes, Boogaard may be a scratch.

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08-30-2010, 03:49 PM
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I will admit i don't know much about Valentenko, but I don't really know if i want to move forward with 2 rookies on D again this year (V and McD). I would prefer if we shipped boyle (cheap 4th line Center) out for Bieksa to vancouver.

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - Rosi
MCD - Bieksa

Looks at least acceptable to me. Bieksa does have a large cap hit, however.

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08-31-2010, 08:08 AM
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Prospal - White - Gaborik
Frolov - Anisimov - MZA
Dubinsky - Drury - Callahan
Avery - Kennedy - Prust

Top Line: Prospal and Gabby played well together last season. White brings a two way presence at center to a formerly incomplete line.

2nd Line: Anisimov needs to make a name for himself at center. Frolov adds a second high level scoring talent to the top 6, MZA is the question mark but it seems like either top 6 minutes or time in Hartford.

Checking Line: You'd probably be able to call them the best checking line in the league. Great faceoff ability and shutdown potential. They all have the ability to score. Dubinsky needs to have a season where he solidifies himself as a top 6 talent.

4th Line: Good toughness and unlike some 4th lines of the past, ability to chip in points. Both Avery and Kennedy could find themselves getting bumped up the lineup.

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08-31-2010, 08:33 AM
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Frolov-Prospal-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Drury-MZA
Avery-Anisimov-Callahan
Prust-Boyle/Kennedy-Boogard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
McDonagh-Gilroy

I don't believe that Christensen has the consistency to make the team, or if he somehow makes the cut he will find a way into the pressbox by Halloween. He just doesn't show up enough. Torts said so himself.

I also still think that Todd White will be a factor, but after looking into the type of injury he had it might be by Christmas. I can see him on the top line if Prospal follows his traditional pattern.

Finally I fully expect to see Chris Drury traded either by the deadline or after the season. Either way this is his last season on Broadway.

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I know I know it wont happen but by if they could get Savard for say Bourque, 2nd rounder, Christiensen, Boyle

the lineup would be real solid at

Frolov, Savard, Gaborik
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Prospal, Drury, Avery
Boogaard, Kennedy, Prust
White

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08-31-2010, 09:38 AM
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I think if either Sauer or Valentenko plays at an NHL level this camp it will be a great problem to have.

And if any of them outperform Gilroy I have no problem seeing him in Hartford this year. Try him out at forward like I suggested.

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I know I know it wont happen but by if they could get Savard for say Bourque, 2nd rounder, Christiensen, Boyle

the lineup would be real solid at

Frolov, Savard, Gaborik
Dubinsky, Anisimov, Callahan
Prospal, Drury, Avery
Boogaard, Kennedy, Prust
White
That isnt terrible by any means...

A lot of interchangeable parts with all but Boogaard and Prust not having the true ability to play on the top 2 lines.

Thats up front at least. The defense... well thats another story. Well leave that to Henrik and Biron. lol

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Does it mean anything that neither Sather nor Torts called White to welcome him to the team? He got the call from the ass't coach....hardly the welcome one would expect for a top 6 forward....Or is that reading too much into this?

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/r...e_on_the_mend/
you are not reading to much into it. white is here for one reason, because he could get waived and his salary wont count against the cap. same could not be said for Brashear, who was over 35 when he signed his deal and even if he was not on the roster, his salary would have counted against the cap.

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With all these moves there is definately a trade on the horizon...

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White's play did not suck this past year due to injuries alone. He hit the age barrier and hit it hard, we of all people should know what that means: the older Redden we have is not the Redden that performed in Ott and the Drury we have is much reduced from the Drury that led Buffalo.

The White that Atlanta tossed out is not the White that can put anywhere near 70 points.

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White's play did not suck this past year due to injuries alone. He hit the age barrier and hit it hard, we of all people should know what that means: the older Redden we have is not the Redden that performed in Ott and the Drury we have is much reduced from the Drury that led Buffalo.

The White that Atlanta tossed out is not the White that can put anywhere near 70 points.
please refrain from any further attempts at posting comments that making complete and total sense.

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Dubinsky-Prospal-Gaborik
Frolov-Anisimov-MZA
Avery-Drury/White-Callahan
Prust-Boyle/White/Kennedy/Drury-Boogaard

Staal-Girardi
MDZ-Rozsival
McDonagh-Gilroy/Eminger

Lundqvist
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I can't wait to see how camp plays out. This is one of my favorite times of the year.

Frolov - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Zuccarello-Aasen
Prospal - Drury - Callahan
Avery - Kennedy - Prusy
Boogaard

Staal - Girardi
Del Zotto - Rozsival
McDonagh - Gilroy
Valentenko

Lundqvist
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2012

2012 - The Apocalypse
Frolov - Thornton - Gaborik
Kreider - Stepan - Grachev
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Boogaard/McNaught - Werek - Prust

Weise/Hagelin/other newbies/MZA/UFA?

Chara - MDZ
Staal - Girardi
McIlrath - McD
Journeyman UFA

Hank
UFA

If Kreider, Stepan, McIlrath and Grachev all were to pan out...
And Frolov sticks
This could be nice - until December 21st when the world ends...

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It had been pointed out that IF todd white goes to the AHL then he can be claimed when called up

this means he is either going to make the club from day 1 or stay in the AHL because I don't think NY wants to pick up half his salary for him to play for another team.

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Here are my lines (I didn't read any of the prior posts):

Frolov - Christensen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - MZA
Prospal - Drury - Callahan
Prust - Avery - Boogaard

Staal - Rozsival
MDZ - Girardi
McDonagh - Semenov
Gilroy

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