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03-03-2010, 03:52 AM
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Ill be happy when Im watching the Ranger in HD. Until channel 578 turns up on the FIOS lineup it's just another step in the long bureaucratic chess game that is capitalism. By earliest guesstimates I'd say Verizon has MSGHD for the start of next season.

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What is the status of this? Is it now on FIOS to get this done? I canceling FIOS if I have to go another season without Rangers HD. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!

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Fios is getting MSG/MSG2/MSG+/MSG+2 HD sometime in February, planned before this ruling I believe.
MSG 2/2+ are not broadcast in HD.

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What is the status of this? Is it now on FIOS to get this done? I canceling FIOS if I have to go another season without Rangers HD. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!
Prepare to cancel FiOS!

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Prepare to cancel FiOS!
What a disgrace. I should actually keep FIOS and cancel my Rangers season tickets...

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What a disgrace. I should actually keep FIOS and cancel my Rangers season tickets...
My roommate (who owns the house I live in) just switched us from Cablevision to FiOS last month (I didn't have a say in it)... SO after watching the Rangers in HD the past 3 seasons, I will now have to tolerate the SD feeds which stinks....

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09-03-2010, 10:44 AM
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How is MSG HD not on FIOS yet?! They are breaking the *** law but not providing it.

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My roommate (who owns the house I live in) just switched us from Cablevision to FiOS last month (I didn't have a say in it)... SO after watching the Rangers in HD the past 3 seasons, I will now have to tolerate the SD feeds which stinks....
I have fios and I must say, their standard definition is way better than cablevison's. Its not exactly HD, but I would put it close. It is definitely tolerable.

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I have fios and I must say, their standard definition is way better than cablevison's. Its not exactly HD, but I would put it close. It is definitely tolerable.
I have a question for you... Does the FiOS cablebox stretch the SD broadcast of the games to fit the whole screen? With Cablevision, if you were wataching a SD (standard definition) feed, it was 4:3 picture format with the black bars (letterboxing) on the sides... If you changed the setting on the cablebox to stretch the picture, it looked clearly distorted and wasn't worth it.... However with Verizon FiOS, I'm noticing that some of the non-HD channels are coming through in 16:9 widescreen format but the picture isn't distorted and the quality is pretty good.....

I could live with that if the same situation applied to the games... What I won't be happy about is having to watch the games in 4:3 picture format because you see so much less of the ice surface....

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Funny time for this thread to pop back up. I was having FIOS installed today when my landlord came home and put the kibosh on it. I'm bummed.


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Direct TV FTW. Get rid of Fios and Cablevision.

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I have a question for you... Does the FiOS cablebox stretch the SD broadcast of the games to fit the whole screen? With Cablevision, if you were wataching a SD (standard definition) feed, it was 4:3 picture format with the black bars (letterboxing) on the sides... If you changed the setting on the cablebox to stretch the picture, it looked clearly distorted and wasn't worth it.... However with Verizon FiOS, I'm noticing that some of the non-HD channels are coming through in 16:9 widescreen format but the picture isn't distorted and the quality is pretty good.....

I could live with that if the same situation applied to the games... What I won't be happy about is having to watch the games in 4:3 picture format because you see so much less of the ice surface....
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Direct TV FTW. Get rid of Fios and Cablevision.
Why? FiOS looks worlds better than either. It's not even all that close. DirecTV is a great service, but FiOS ***** all over it in terms of picture quality.

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I agree the SD feeds look better on FiOS than Cablevision but I don't notice much of a difference with the HD feeds... I had terrific HD picture quality with iO....

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I agree the SD feeds look better on FiOS than Cablevision but I don't notice much of a difference with the HD feeds... I had terrific HD picture quality with iO....
Having had both, I think there's a massive difference.

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I have had both too... Had CV for 3 years and have had FiOS for the last 2 months.... Maybe you weren't getting a good signal transmission in your area?

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SD on FIOS is better than Cablevision/Comcast/etc because it's a much MUCH stronger signal. I used to have Comcast and two upstairs bedroom TV's had awful reception (old, hard-to-get-to splitter in crawlspace).. FIOS comes in and I have crisp SD everywhere without changing a 20 year old splitter..

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I have had both too... Had CV for 3 years and have had FiOS for the last 2 months.... Maybe you weren't getting a good signal transmission in your area?
Doubt it. Should be the same. I would never switch back to either DTV or Cablevision.

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Doubt it. Should be the same. I would never switch back to either DTV or Cablevision.
There are provider specific & region specific discussions on avsforum.com and it appears that one's service can vary depending on geographic location....

Cablevision:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=446219

Verizon:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=656287

I had pretty good HD picture quality in Bergen County, NJ area with CV.... Good with FiOS now too...

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I can't stand not watch the Rangers in HD. I had Fios for a bit, we switched back.

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I could almost understanding an SD-only feed on MSG if I lived in NY, but I'm in central NJ!

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There is only one reason Fios destroys Cablevision in picture quality. Verizon doesn't have the bandwith issues Cablevision has so they don't compress signals and piggy-back them on top of one another. They broadcast every channel as it's supplied to them, bit for bit. Cablevision, while they'd tell us their system is as up to date, crams 2-3 channels together and that's what causes the degradation. And I've had both and recently, last season, went back to Cablevision for HD Rangers games.

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Fios has to be the best right now. Only thing lacking is the MSG HD,and once that happens it's probably an unbeatable cable provider.

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Fios has to be the best right now. Only thing lacking is the MSG HD,and once that happens it's probably an unbeatable cable provider.

Absolutely. I have no complaints other than no MSG channels in HD.

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Fios has to be the best right now. Only thing lacking is the MSG HD,and once that happens it's probably an unbeatable cable provider.
The other thing it's lacking is the NFL package which is important to many football fans.

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