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09-03-2010, 01:11 PM
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That is one of the worst ideas I have ever come across, I hope you are joking.
Actually they are already experimenting with it and they use it in youth tournaments across the country including all the can/am tournaments which are huge.

Please explain how that is worse than having a game be decided by a breakaway? It would rarely ever get to 2 on 2 anyway and 3 one 3 happen in actual games already (though very rarely).

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10 minute, 4-on-4 overtime with long line changes. If somehow no one scores, a shootout with 3 players aside.

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09-03-2010, 03:59 PM
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I'd change the 'clearing the puck over the glass inside your own blueline = penalty' to 'clearing the puck over the glass inside your own blueline = no line change' (like an icing).
Yeah, it seems pointless to penalize someone for trying to clear the zone and accidentally put it over the glass. I know that's not always the case, but it is a harsh punishment at the moment that could be fixed as you suggested.

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the NHL is toying with the idea of putting a small yellow line 3 inches behind the goal line. if the puck crosses this line in review, its definitely a goal. i'd implement that. every little bit helps.
I really don't get this when you could do something like this:

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Cameras or RF sensors in the goal frame.
Just seems like it would make more sense to put some kind of sensors or cameras in. The yellow line would just cause more outrage I think.

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The game is pretty fine as is so either just get rid of the trapezoid or bump the shootout up to five players instead of three.
The trapezoid sucks. I like seeing goalies come way out of their net and get hosed when they turn it over. Plus, it's equally as funny when someone doesn't score on a golden opportunity like that.

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09-03-2010, 04:28 PM
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Just seems like it would make more sense to put some kind of sensors or cameras in. The yellow line would just cause more outrage I think.
I never heard of the yellow line before now, but as an immediate, temporary solution I think it is outstanding.

Basically it eliminates the illogical conclusions that the former goal review system necessitated (we know the puck is across the goal line, but there is no clear view of "white ice" between the puck and the line). It is a built in heuristic that makes the current video review model much more comprehensive.

Sensor-based review should still be the goal, but this should go into effect NOW. Never a good thing to let good goals go uncounted.

My idea of how it would work:


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09-03-2010, 04:50 PM
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I never heard of the yellow line before now, but as an immediate, temporary solution I think it is outstanding.

Basically it eliminates the illogical conclusions that the former goal review system necessitated (we know the puck is across the goal line, but there is no clear view of "white ice" between the puck and the line). It is a built in heuristic that makes the current video review model much more comprehensive.

Sensor-based review should still be the goal, but this should go into effect NOW. Never a good thing to let good goals go uncounted.

My idea of how it would work:

Like that diagram!

My question is....if we can't tell if the puck is over the line already, how are we going to tell when it "touches" the yellow line any differently? On top of that, yellow has less contrast to the white ice surface than red does, making it harder to distinguish, thus harder to tell where the puck is relative to the line. And even on top of that, your best view of the yellow line will be a bird's eye view seen through the mesh in the top of the net, making it harder still to distinguish.

Not sure if I explained that clearly, but hopefully you get what I mean.

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09-03-2010, 05:08 PM
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Like that diagram!

My question is....if we can't tell if the puck is over the line already, how are we going to tell when it "touches" the yellow line any differently? On top of that, yellow has less contrast to the white ice surface than red does, making it harder to distinguish, thus harder to tell where the puck is relative to the line. And even on top of that, your best view of the yellow line will be a bird's eye view seen through the mesh in the top of the net, making it harder still to distinguish.

Not sure if I explained that clearly, but hopefully you get what I mean.
its still an immediate and simple solution that will make the current situation better until something else comes along.

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09-03-2010, 05:14 PM
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its still an immediate and simple solution that will make the current situation better until something else comes along.
No doubt. I just see that it is nearly as inconclusive as before.

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09-03-2010, 05:18 PM
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No doubt. I just see that it is nearly as inconclusive as before.
we'll agree to disagree there. but its still more efficient than my own plan, which is to breed a race of tiny gnomes who will live in the goalposts and monitor the lines. if they fail, they are executed.

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09-03-2010, 05:25 PM
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we'll agree to disagree there. but its still more efficient than my own plan, which is to breed a race of tiny gnomes who will live in the goalposts and monitor the lines. if they fail, they are executed.
Well, it's better than what we currently have in Toronto, so I'll take it.

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For me it would be simple, make the goalie pads smaller.
Likewise. I miss the days when goalies didn't look like bomb technicians.

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I like alot of the ideas posted here so far. This one might be a bit out there, but I think it would add to the excitement of the game. A penalty should end on any goal scored by EITHER team. This way, a SH goal also gets you out of the penalty. You would see more teams taking chances at going for it rather than just dumping it down, and it might open up the offense a little if you can catch a PK cheating.

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I like some of these ideas as well, particularly the yellow line, but I'm not sure we don't have a lot of the same problems. I'd just change the rule: instead of completely crossing the line, if it just gets to the white then it's a goal.

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09-04-2010, 02:17 AM
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Get rid of the carbon/fiber sticks, never seen so many stick explosions in my life......its dangerous.

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Clearing puck over the Glass = no line change - Great rule

Instigator rule - Refine or remove it completley. It does not work.

Overtime - 4 on 4, 3 on 3. Leave it at that. If a goal isn't scored in 5 minutes of 3 on 3, then these guys shouldn't be in the hockey league. I honestly don't know whats wrong with the shootout as it is though.

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09-04-2010, 07:07 AM
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Trapezoid. The goalies are not made of glass, you know. If you want to leave you net, fine. But prepare to get hit.

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09-04-2010, 10:24 AM
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Many good suggestions and since I can't limit it to one, I'm going for something tangible rather than of consequence. And that is the elimination of third jerseys except for designated dates such as a "throwback weekend" or some other predetermined event. Return to home whites, too. But more so, hockey more than any other sport is about the jersey -- the sweater. Enough with the over-compensation of marketing through superficial tendencies. Market the sport. Which leads into other issues of blandishment of certain players. Back to the point at hand: Hockey has lost part of its charm with the revolving jerseys. Each team should be limited to two, plus a third for specified dates in which each team participates. Less is more.

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I would have refs be more lenient with the interference, hooking, and holding calls. Those calls sometimes are SO SO bad and pointless. Technically putting your arm on a guy or whatever is interference, but it really doesn't effect the game so much as to warrant a penalty, especially in the playoffs. I remember like 2004 playoffs right before the lockout. In a tight game in the playoffs back then, you couldn't do anything to get a penalty. Also the Instigator rule.

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I would have refs be more lenient with the interference, hooking, and holding calls. Those calls sometimes are SO SO bad and pointless. Technically putting your arm on a guy or whatever is interference, but it really doesn't effect the game so much as to warrant a penalty, especially in the playoffs. I remember like 2004 playoffs right before the lockout. In a tight game in the playoffs back then, you couldn't do anything to get a penalty. Also the Instigator rule.
definitely. it seems that the majority of the calls, there is no significant contact or obstruction. someone needs to remind the league this is a contact sport.

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Clearing puck over the Glass = no line change - Great rule

Instigator rule - Refine or remove it completley. It does not work.

Overtime - 4 on 4, 3 on 3. Leave it at that. If a goal isn't scored in 5 minutes of 3 on 3, then these guys shouldn't be in the hockey league. I honestly don't know whats wrong with the shootout as it is though.
Wow, really?

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Wow, really?
Have you ever seen 3 on 3. It's a joke. The goaltenders are basically helpless.

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Expand the blue lines another inch on each side.

No more trapezoids behind the nets.

Clearing the puck in the defensive zone is like an icing.

Keep icing as it is.

No more instigator rule.

Ten minute overtime, 4 on 4. No shootouts. 2 points for a regulation win, one point for an overtime win. None for losses. Bring back ties.

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