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09-01-2010, 05:32 PM
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Roman Josi, what's his potential?

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Stars fan here and also a fan of Swiss prospects. What is the potential of your prospect Roman Josi? Will he become a top 4 D? Would like to know more about him and why not ask you guys.
Also I read his profile on hockeysfuture and it say's he could play his first game this season? Is that true?
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He has good hands and a good shot...I dont see why not! he can most certainly make his nhl debut this year!

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He has good hands and a good shot...I dont see why not! he can most certainly make his nhl debut this year!
On any other team, maybe.
But not on the Preds, way too many people in line with him.
Sulzer, Parent, Franson (if he signs), Laakso, Blum.
I could go on with potential NHL D-men.
I cant really say much about him, thats not my specialty so I wont go off and praise him nor criticize him, but a NHL spot is quite a stretch.

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I didn't expect to see him crack the roster for the Preds, but will he get a couple of games in the NHL? Will he make his NHL debut this season?

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I didn't expect to see him crack the roster for the Preds, but will he get a couple of games in the NHL? Will he make his NHL debut this season?
I'd definitely say the potential is there for Josi to make his NHL debut this season. Word out of Switzerland is that many long time observers of the Swiss Elite League believe that Josi is more advanced in his development as a 20 year-old than Mark Streit was when he left for the NHL at the age of 28.

Roman will likely (99% sure) start the year in the AHL, but if he can make the adjustment to the smaller rinks in North America and prove himself to be a reliable defender at the AHL level than I can see a callup this season and potentially being given a legitimate opportunity to make the NHL lineup next season out of camp.

Josi is one of my favorite prospects right now and I'm very excited to see him hit the ice September 13th when the rookie training camp begins. Remember, Roman has been playing against men since he made his elite league debut at the age of 16. I really believe his development time might not be as long as a prospect coming out of juniors would be...

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2nd coming of Kimmo Timonen.

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Good at everything. Incredibly smart player. Timonen isn't a bad comparison.

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I personally think he has just as much of a shot to make the team this year as Blum does. Blum has been more highly touted because he was a 1st round pick and also plays in North American.

I think alot of people are going to be really overwhelmed when they see how much potential Josi oozes when he starts in the A this season.

I have him tabbed as the 1st/2nd call-up for defensemen this season for the preds. I think he will be a second coming of Timonen as well. Definitely have higher hopes for him than Mark Streit.

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On any other team, maybe.
But not on the Preds, way too many people in line with him.
Sulzer, Parent, Franson (if he signs), Laakso, Blum.
I could go on with potential NHL D-men.
I cant really say much about him, thats not my specialty so I wont go off and praise him nor criticize him, but a NHL spot is quite a stretch.
Fact are that Josi is already better than every prospects that the Preds have...

Josi will most likely make he's NHL debut this year.

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Fact are that Josi is already better than every prospects that the Preds have...
Geez, you're are the worst homer on this boards. On every thread which discusses swiss players or prospects you're way over board with your projections. On the prospect board you called Josi already Norris calibre. You can't be serious...

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Right now Josi is behind Sulzer, Blum, Laakso. Ryan Ellis might get some NHL time as well. Josi will spend full time in Milwaukee.

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Right now Josi is behind Sulzer, Blum, Laakso. Ryan Ellis might get some NHL time as well. Josi will spend full time in Milwaukee.
Josi will be ahead of Sulzer and Laakso less than a month into the season.

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Josi will be ahead of Sulzer and Laakso less than a month into the season.
Maybe, I want to see how he handles Milwaukee first and either of SUlzer or Laakso can be traded as well.

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Josi legitimately has the chance to earn his way to Nashville this season with a good start to the season in training camp and a quick adjustment to the AHL.

If that happens, look for him to leapfrog many of the prospects currently in front of him and possibly move ahead of Blum on the depth charts by season's end.

I think Josi has the highest ceiling of all of our defensive prospects currently. Question is, how quick and how much will he realize it...


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Fact are that Josi is already better than every prospects that the Preds have...


I like Josi, I think he has a good skill set and could be a good defenseman in the NHL... but he is not a better prospect than Wilson. He still has question marks around his game that could relegate him to role player duty if not resolved.

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Yeah, but Josi must be absolutely awesome, because we've seen more of Blum and think that he won't be an immediate savior.

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I think, when all is said and done, Josi will be more of an impact player in the NHL than Blum. I would personally rate Josi behind only Wilson in terms of our prospects. Granted, I've seen Josi in smaller doses, but he's significantly wowed me each time, and I think he vastly outplayed the more-hyped Luca Sbisa and was, along with Neiderreiter and Conz, Switzerland's best player at the last WJC. I wish he had been healthy enough to take part in the Olympics, as well.

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I like Josi, I think he has a good skill set and could be a good defenseman in the NHL... but he is not a better prospect than Wilson. He still has question marks around his game that could relegate him to role player duty if not resolved.
Even as a defenseman, Josi is IMO better than Wilson considering the stats of Josi 21 pts in 26 games playing in a similar league level, and was like 4th leading goals scorer in the Swiss NLA, almost 1 pt per game while Wilson got 34 pts in 40 games as a foward in the AHL.

Once he improve his defensive awareness, he'll be more valuable to the Preds than Wilson will ever be.

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Great that you, and others, feel Josi is looking good.

But having Suter and Weber, if Josi is more valuable to the Preds than Wilson will ever be (Really? Not even one great season for Wilson?) , Wilson will probably have been a bit of a disappointment.

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Let's keep it civil people.

1) Josi and Blum and Ellis are going to push the issue with the Preds. I would not be shocked to see both Laakso and Sulzer traded for picks or players. When the junior season ends Ellis and COR are coming. They can fill 2 spots in Milwaukee. Then the NCAA season ends and there is Jeff Foss. (Not much NHL potential but can fill a spot in Milwaukee. Blum could be in Nashville this year but he would need an injury or a trade for that to happen

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Even as a defenseman, Josi is IMO better than Wilson considering the stats of Josi 21 pts in 26 games playing in a similar league level, and was like 4th leading goals scorer in the Swiss NLA, almost 1 pt per game while Wilson got 34 pts in 40 games as a foward in the AHL.

Once he improve his defensive awareness, he'll be more valuable to the Preds than Wilson will ever be.
Using statistics as a comparison point is a big stretch. Janne Niskala scored 19 goals and 49 points in the Elitserien before he came to North America. Ville Koistinen led all SM-Liiga defensemen in scoring before jumping to the NHL. They combined for 109 NHL games.

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Using statistics as a comparison point is a big stretch. Janne Niskala scored 19 goals and 49 points in the Elitserien before he came to North America. Ville Koistinen led all SM-Liiga defensemen in scoring before jumping to the NHL. They combined for 109 NHL games.
I'm talking Josi here, who care about those 2? Josi play in the Swiss league while Niskala had a season in the NLA who had a mere 29 pts in 44 games in NLA.

Neither those 2 Dmen were a point per games in their respective league, except Niskala in Sweden but that's a different league, something that Josi was nearly in the Swiss League. Neither of them have the size, age and body frame of Josi.

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Yes you're talking about Josi, a prospect we are all high on. A prospect who has yet to lace them up for a single NHL game. Worstfaceoffman is talking about two other prospects who played NHL games after being highly rated prospects and failed to pan out. Both were playing at a high level in Europe, came to North America, and bombed. I think it's ok to include them in the discussion here.

We all hope Roman does well. Where the agreement ends is we HOPE he does well and you seem to KNOW he's the next coming of Lidstrom. I know I'm putting words in your mouth here so to speak, but he has yet to do anything at the NHL level. He isn't proven at all. He could be great, he could be horrible. More realistically he could simply be serviceable.

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I'm talking Josi here, who care about those 2? Josi play in the Swiss league while Niskala had a season in the NLA who had a mere 29 pts in 44 games in NLA.

Neither those 2 Dmen were a point per games in their respective league, except Niskala in Sweden but that's a different league, something that Josi was nearly in the Swiss League. Neither of them have the size, age and body frame of Josi.
So comparables from Europe shouldn't be used here because they don't match your overly optimistic view of Josi?

Josi has a great upside, but, still needs to transition to the North American game. He's in an organization with a ton of defensive talent where making the NHL roster will be a fight. Our AHL starting six could be Sulzer, Laakso, Josi, Blum, Palin, Johnson with Foss, COR and Ellis a year away from making the jump to the pros.

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