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09-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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in goal: Quick (Bernier backing up, although I think JB will be the #1 by spring)

Defense: Mitchell Doughty
Johnson Franson
Hickey Scuderi (Hickey would thrive w/ Scuds)


Smyth Kopitar Williams
Poni Stoll Brown
Richardson Handzus Simmmonds (our REAL 2nd line)
Parse Cliche Westgarth
Just no.

JJ needs to play with either Scuds or Mitchell.

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09-05-2010, 09:49 PM
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I rather following a team with a real chance to the cup
and players who are able to make this happen..................

than a guy who is given all icetime in the world but instead practicing to get better
playing a clown at "the price is right"

We have a history of these guys............

Sometimes i think the 17 years of helpless management and losing created a losing mentality so everyone cheers now for top 6 guys who are waived by NHL bottom feeder clubs.
Wait a sec hes a clown because he went on the price is right(I dont know if you recall but Dustin Brown was there too). I don't love Stoll and I have mentioned it on here multiple times but your above statement makes no sense.

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09-05-2010, 10:01 PM
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Parse Kopi Willie
Smyth Stoll Brown
Poni Zues Simmonds
Holloway Richards Lewis

Doughty Scuds
JJ other Willie
Whiskey Harrold

Quick
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Time for Parse and Bud to shine.

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09-05-2010, 10:22 PM
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Parse Kopi Willie
Smyth Stoll Brown
Poni Zues Simmonds
Holloway Richards Lewis

Doughty Scuds
JJ other Willie
Whiskey Harrold

Quick
Bernnie

Time for Parse and Bud to shine.
Well, that lineup would get it's ass kicked on a nightly basis.

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09-06-2010, 02:20 AM
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Wait a sec hes a clown because he went on the price is right(I dont know if you recall but Dustin Brown was there too). I don't love Stoll and I have mentioned it on here multiple times but your above statement makes no sense.
Basically i'm not talking about Stoll, i was thinking about Armstrong.
For sure i remember Brown and Greene there too........
And that is exactly my point.
If a player produces and is doind the Job right i love to see him goofing around
im TV shows because he deserves it.
Players like These Armstrongs, Stolls, Willsies should spend every free second in a gym or the practice rink to get at least half a step forward.
But we have always the clowns who doesn't develope and still hanging around in game shows or fun stuff areas.

That is my point

I'm just tired of 17 years full of bridge players and may be over react.
But i could puke to see a player like Stoll shooting a blocking player into the face from
5 feet distance when this player is already in blocking position.
How often does he shot the blocker on PP and the puck was deflected out.
He shoots just because he doesn't know better.

These are the players i'm talking about.
And these are the players we have to get rid off as soon as we can if we ever want to have a shot at the cup

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09-06-2010, 02:30 AM
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Just no.

JJ needs to play with either Scuds or Mitchell.


oh, you mean like when Jack got lit up at the beginning of last season with "Scuds" (cute name ) his pairmate ?

And Mitchell is going to be with Doughty. Your best defensive defenseman with your best offensive defenseman makes too much sense.

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Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Richardson - Stoll - Brown
Ponikvarovsky - Handzus - Simmonds
Parse - Schenn - (Westgarth/Clune/Clifford)

Doughty - Scuderi
Johnson - Mitchell
Greene (Drewiske) - Fransson

Quick
Bernier

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09-06-2010, 11:16 AM
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Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Richardson - Stoll - Brown
Ponikvarovsky - Handzus - Simmonds
Parse - Schenn - (Westgarth/Clune/Clifford)

Doughty - Scuderi
Johnson - Mitchell
Greene (Drewiske) - Fransson

Quick
Bernier
Swap Richardson with Parse and put Drewiske in Fransson's spot and that is exactly what I have. With the exception of Lewis for Schenn too.

Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Parse - Stoll - Brown
Ponikvarovsky - Handzus - Simmonds
Richardson - Lewis - (Westgarth/Clune/Clifford)

Doughty - Scuderi
Johnson - Mitchell
Greene - Drewiske

Quick
Bernier

If Schenn makes the team, I would rush him in a top 6 role, because I feel he would get more accomplished and it will benefit him best in that situation. That and it would help our winger situation as you can move Stoll to wing and have Stoll-Schenn-Brown on one line. Though, I personally don't see that happening this year. Another interesting scenario is messing with the lines altogether and upgrading Zeus to 2nd line center, moving Stoll over to wing and breaking Schenn out centering Poni and Simmonds.

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09-06-2010, 11:21 AM
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Unless he has a miraculous recovery, Greene is not going to be in the lineup opening night.

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Unless he has a miraculous recovery, Greene is not going to be in the lineup opening night.
Of course not, those are just overall rosters, a kid will take the spot with Drewiske until then, and who knows... May end up putting 44DD out of a job.

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09-06-2010, 11:31 AM
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Personally, I believe Lewis, Martinez, and Cliche will be dealt very soon in a package deal. These guys, for the most part, are NHL-ready and have seniority on guys like Hickey, Schenn, and Clifford.

However, the younger prospects (Hickey, Schenn, Clifford) are so much better than the older prospects (Lewis, Martinez, Cliche) that it doesn't make sense to hold the younger guys back just for the sake of seniority.

And we can't have the older guys in the minors, not when they're ready for the next step. That'd be poor asset management. Thus, I believe DL is working on some package deal with one of the bottom teams in the East (Florida, Toronto, etc.) to help alleviate our little problem. What say you?



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09-06-2010, 11:34 AM
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....May end up putting 44DD out of a job.

IMHO, 44DD will assume Greene's duties until the later makes a full recovery. I suppose Fransson will be the rookie, with (perhaps) Hickey as our "healthy scratch" defenseman.

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IMHO, 44DD will assume Greene's duties until the later makes a full recovery. I suppose Fransson will be the rookie, with (perhaps) Hickey as our "healthy scratch" defenseman.
That is exactly what is going to happen, and then when Greene comes back it will be a decision between him and the kid filling in. I am going to predict that Hickey makes the club and gets his taste of the NHL and depending on his play, he could end up with Greene as a permanent defensive partner. It would make us more dynamic on the powerplay too.

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Personally, I believe Lewis, Martinez, and Cliche will be dealt very soon in a package deal. These guys, for the most part, are NHL-ready and have seniority on guys like Hickey, Schenn, and Clifford.

However, the younger prospects (Hickey, Schenn, Clifford) are so much better than the older prospects (Lewis, Martinez, Cliche) that it doesn't make sense to hold the younger guys back just for the sake of seniority.

And we can't have the older guys in the minors, not when they're ready for the next step. That'd be poor asset management. Thus, I believe DL is working on some package deal with one of the bottom teams in the East (Florida, Toronto, etc.) to help alleviate our little problem. What say you?


I think we keep Lewis. He is overlooked now that he has fallen down the depth chart a bit, but he still has a good deal of potential and ability. I think he is the best candidate for the third line center job when Zeus and Stoll disappear. I remember his bio over the years always including that they expected him to at least be an elite third line center, and I expect him to reach that potential. I look for him to take the fourth line center job out of camp this year.

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Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Parse - Stoll - Brown
Poni - Handzus - Simmonds
Richardson - Lewis - Clune
Westgarth

Doughty - Scuderi
Johnson - Mitchell
Drewiske - Fransson
Martinez
Harrold

Quick - Bernier

I'm leary of Poni on the 2nd line, but the one I have above has way too many shooters on it. Been thinking about it and what are the chances of Brown and Simmonds switching spots? I think Simmonds and Parse compliment eathother well and Brown and Poni do as well...

Parse - Stoll - Simmonds?
Poni - Handzus - Brown?

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Well, I better throw mine out there -

Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Parse - Stoll - Brown
Poni - Handzus - Simmonds
Clune - Schenn - Clifford

Westgarth - Harrold*

Scuderi - Doughty
Johnson - Drewiske (Johnson - Mitchell after Greene return)
Mitchell - Hickey (Greene - Hickey after Greene return)

Harrold* - Martinez (Becomes Drewiske after Greene return)

Quick
Bernier

*Harrold sticks because he's played both forward and D

That's 3 rookies starting the season. Should probably only be two, but we'll see.

Hickey is the star of training camp and Parse is the player who surprises everyone and goes 22g+38a=50pts.

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I hate how Parse is in the majority of these line ups.. And sometimes in the Top 6. This guy SHOULD struggle to make the 4th line, but for some reason he gets a pass for doing.. absolutely nothing. Moller, Clifford, Loktionov, and Brayden Schenn are all better than this guy right now..

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I hate how Parse is in the majority of these line ups.. And sometimes in the Top 6. This guy SHOULD struggle to make the 4th line. Moller, Clifford, Loktionov, and Brayden Schenn are all better than this guy right now..
Absolute rubbish.

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Smyth-Kopitar-Williams
Poni-Stoll-Brown
Parse-Zeus-Simmonds
Clifford-Schenn-Richie

Doughty-Scuderi
Mitchell-Johnson
Greene-Hickey

Quick
Bernier

Given what we know of our players at this moment, these are the lines and pairings I'd like to see for a majority of the season. There is a top six problem though as can be seen, if not fixed now it has to be fixed at the deadline.

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Well, that lineup would get it's ass kicked on a nightly basis.
I get what your saying but we dont always need the brawlers in the line up. Chi town did just fine. You could throw Clune in the 4th for Lewis or Westy but not much should change except of D when Greene comes back.

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I would think at least one kid breaks in but also consider Parse got 2 year deal, and Hextall and Lombardi have both mentioned Westy and Clune being in the line-up this year....Schenn and Clifford's names have been mentioned too...so I have to figure the 4th line with have a combination of those 5 mentioned....Possibly Lewis or Cliche if Schenn doesn't make it or is in the top 3 lines.

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I get what your saying but we dont always need the brawlers in the line up. Chi town did just fine. You could throw Clune in the 4th for Lewis or Westy but not much should change except of D when Greene comes back.
Chicago had Boynton, Eager, Burrish, Ladd and Seabrook...all those guys can take care of business...

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I hate how Parse is in the majority of these line ups.. And sometimes in the Top 6. This guy SHOULD struggle to make the 4th line, but for some reason he gets a pass for doing.. absolutely nothing. Moller, Clifford, Loktionov, and Brayden Schenn are all better than this guy right now..
We have no one else. He was our best rookie last season and his numbers were pretty nice for an offensive minded winger. He is definitely going to get a shot at the position and has seniority over all those you mentioned other than Moller. If Moller can steal it from him, more power to him. That would be exactly what the Kings expected from him in the first place. But so far, the only player to have success in that position is Parse.

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Absolute rubbish.
Seconded. Look at Parse's production playing limited minutes with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines.

Moller hasn't produced this much and the other 3 have a combined 2 games in the NHL. Your statement is unfounded. You can think that those four are better than Parse, but there isn't a piece of evidence out there to support that thought right now.

You may be right, but for now, I disagree.

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Martinez was rubbish last year, at least when I saw him. He was Randy Jones bad.

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Martinez was rubbish last year, at least when I saw him. He was Randy Jones bad.
NOBODY was Randy Jones bad except RandyJones.

You take that back.

I mean, holy over statements batman.

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