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09-07-2010, 04:35 PM
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Drew Doughty's rookie season was 27 points and a -17

Jack Johnson's rookie season was 11 points and -19. He was 36 points and -15 on a Playoff Kings team this last year, his 3rd season.

Zach Bogosian's sophmore year was 23 points and -18
Thanks for pointing that out.

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I think most here would agree that

Staal
Rozi
and Girardi are ahead of MDZ on the depth chart

but that MDZ's upside is perhaps for the 2 spot alongside Staal

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I think most here would agree that

Staal
Rozi
and Girardi are ahead of MDZ on the depth chart

but that MDZ's upside is perhaps for the 2 spot alongside Staal
I think his upside is beyond Staal's, and I love Staal. Will he ever reach it though? Hard to tell so far. However, his offense will win us games, and I think his defense will be more than adequate

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MDZ is going to be putting up a lot of points for years to come. Staal and him would make a great tandom because Staal is one of the best shut down D-Men and Del Zotto is a great offensive defenseman and only getting better. They are who the Rangers will build the D around.

this season Del Zotto:

82 15 42 57

book it.

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09-08-2010, 05:09 PM
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this season Del Zotto:

82 15 42 57

book it.
That would be fantastic, but seems a bit optimistic.

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09-08-2010, 10:49 PM
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I think his upside is beyond Staal's, and I love Staal. Will he ever reach it though? Hard to tell so far. However, his offense will win us games, and I think his defense will be more than adequate
not sure I see your point as Staal has yet to hit his upside

I think we agree that both players could be a top pairing tandem in NY for many years to come

I think that Staal hasn't been asked to provide offense but rather to prevent the other team from having offense, but his skill is there. His brothers talent not withstanding. Were coach to give Staal the green light I think his numbers would shoot way up but perhaps at the expense of team cohesion.

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not sure I see your point as Staal has yet to hit his upside

I think we agree that both players could be a top pairing tandem in NY for many years to come

I think that Staal hasn't been asked to provide offense but rather to prevent the other team from having offense, but his skill is there. His brothers talent not withstanding. Were coach to give Staal the green light I think his numbers would shoot way up but perhaps at the expense of team cohesion.
I actually think Staal is pretty close to his prime. Add 5 or so points to his offense and possibly a little more defensive capability and there you have it

With Del Zotto, it's hard to predict how good he will be right now. I can see him scoring 60-70 points one year. Will it happen? Probably not, but I'm not going to be shocked if it does

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09-08-2010, 10:55 PM
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I'd take Staal over MDZ Anyday.

My Patience with this kid is running out. Seriously.
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LOL,If this team ever plans on winning this SC, We Need More Experienced players.
In My Mind MDZ is still very immature for this legue. In addition to.....

Just my humble opinion
Is this a joke? He's ****ing 19, just finishing his rookie season.

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