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09-10-2010, 07:45 AM
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Jason Smith charged with assault

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5552155

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The Calgary Police Service confirmed Thursday that Smith was arrested after police were called to his southwest Calgary home Aug. 10.

The 36-year-old Smith is charged with assaulting his wife and daughter and faces another count of confining his wife.

Smith was released on $1,000 bail and the conditions he have no contact with his wife, two daughters or his wife's parents. He was granted one exception to send his daughter a birthday card, according to court documents. The former player also is prohibited from returning to his home in Greely, Ontario, and was ordered not to consume alcohol or other intoxicating substances or possess weapons.
What a bummer. Hate to see stuff like this.

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What a bummer. Hate to see stuff like this.
Assaulting his wife and daughter? Ugh.

I don't know the full story, obviously, but Jason was a great leader and Flyer. He just fell down a peg on my "respect" ladder.


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Assaulting his wife and daughter? Ugh.

I don't know the full story, obviously, but I Jason was a great leader and Flyer. He just fell down a peg on my "respect" ladder.
Couldn't have said it any better. I'll hold off on judging too much until the full story comes out but it seems kind of cut and dry. No excuse to hit your wife and especially not your children. I'm assuming he was drunk but that's no excuse.

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This is sad to see. He was a warrior with the Flyers at least for the first part of his initial season. Then the injuries started affecting his play especially in the playoffs when him and his partner at the time (can't recall who) were like our third pairing this year. They were brutal and it was like Russian Roulette....

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Disappointing.

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Couldn't have said it any better. I'll hold off on judging too much until the full story comes out but it seems kind of cut and dry. No excuse to hit your wife and especially not your children. I'm assuming he was drunk but that's no excuse.
Looks like the courts ordered him not to consume any intoxicating things so I would imagine that means he was under the influence of something. This story seriously ruined my day. Jason Smith was one of my faves even before he was in Philly. Innocent until proven guilty, but for the most part with stuff like this, when there's smoke there's fire.

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Assaulting his wife and daughter? Ugh.

I don't know the full story, obviously, but Jason was a great leader and Flyer. He just fell down a peg on my "respect" ladder.
If it is true he falls pretty much right off the ladder for me. Disgusting if true.

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If it is true he falls pretty much right off the ladder for me. Disgusting if true.
Same. I mean if it had stopped at assaulting his wife, then you don't know whether or not things got out of hand in the heat of things, but when you involve children and especially daughters...

P.S Just to make sure I am not condoning assaulting his wife!

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If it is true he falls pretty much right off the ladder for me. Disgusting if true.
That's pretty much how I feel. There seems to be a few holes in the story, but if it's true, he can rot.

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Couldn't have said it any better. I'll hold off on judging too much until the full story comes out but it seems kind of cut and dry. No excuse to hit your wife and especially not your children. I'm assuming he was drunk but that's no excuse.
If assault is the same in Canada as England it doesn't actually require physical contact, it can be committed through words alone by making someone perceive they are in danger of imminent physical violence.

It wouldn't make it right in any way but certainly it's not as bad as actually punching your family members. Probably best to wait until we know the whole story before we judge him too severely. Either way it's disappointing though.

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If assault is the same in Canada as England it doesn't actually require physical contact, it can be committed through words alone by making someone perceive they are in danger of imminent physical violence.

It wouldn't make it right in any way but certainly it's not as bad as actually punching your family members. Probably best to wait until we know the whole story before we judge him too severely. Either way it's disappointing though.
It is pretty obvious it is of a phyiscal nature, because he is being charged with.

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and faces another count of confining his wife.
You can't confine someone with just words...

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That really sucks. I really liked this guy.

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It is pretty obvious it is of a phyiscal nature, because he is being charged with.



You can't confine someone with just words...
You can just block a door with something heavy so it won't open. You can threaten the person on the other side of the door so they can't come out. I'm just saying don't jump to conclusions, I have no more idea of the particular circumstances than you.

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You can just block a door with something heavy so it won't open. You can threaten the person on the other side of the door so they can't come out. I'm just saying don't jump to conclusions, I have no more idea of the particular circumstances than you.
I don't care how you confine someone, it's wrong. If any of this is in any way true, I don't think I can respect him ever again.

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Total bummer.

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You can just block a door with something heavy so it won't open. You can threaten the person on the other side of the door so they can't come out. I'm just saying don't jump to conclusions, I have no more idea of the particular circumstances than you.
Ok, well yes let us not jump to conclusions, because he also may have tripped and his dangling arms struck both his wife and child, which then sent them tumbling into a room. And after Smith tried to recover by grabbing onto the dresser it toppled over and knocked Smith out and locked his family in the room.

I mean a judge has decided a lot of harsh conditions for a reason. I don't need to jump to conclusion when there is a judge there giving us an idea of what happened.

Either scenario is possible, but one is more likely than the other.

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*******, that really sucks, hoping against hope it's fake or something.

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Ok, well yes let us not jump to conclusions, because he also may have tripped and his dangling arms struck both his wife and child, which then sent them tumbling into a room. And after Smith tried to recover by grabbing onto the dresser it toppled over and knocked Smith out and locked his family in the room.

I mean a judge has decided a lot of harsh conditions for a reason. I don't need to jump to conclusion when there is a judge there giving us an idea of what happened.

Either scenario is possible, but one is more likely than the other.
I'm not defending him, I'm just pointing out we don't know everything that has happened. I'm not suggesting any of these things are justified in any event but some are worse than others, I personally won't assume the worst about him until I see something which confirms it. You're welcome to believe what you want of course.

I can't infer anything from the conditions imposed on him myself because I don't know what's normal in these cases. It might be standard to not allow a person on bail for a crime not to approach the victim of the crime, that would simply make sense from my point of view.

By the way your example probably wouldn't be assault because there's no intent.

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Assaulting his wife and daughter? Ugh.

I don't know the full story, obviously, but Jason was a great leader and Flyer. He just fell down a peg on my "respect" ladder.
This. Man, what a bummer, he was awesome while here.

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Very sad to hear. I'll wait to see just what happened because, as has been pointed out, in certain countries assault can be physical or verbal. However, the limited press release paints a pretty bad (if incomplete) picture. Not cool.

I might have to rescind my appreciation for his service as the Flyers' captain if this is turns out to be what most are guessing it is.

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we dont know what happened, if whatever he did were really serious he would be facing battery charges, too. the restrictions may also be precautionary, better that the authorities err on the side of caution until the matter is resolved.

you hate to hear anything like this and if the charges stick it's certainly a heinous set of acts if it didn't come to serious violence but let's not rush to judgment.

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we dont know what happened, if whatever he did were really serious he would be facing battery charges, too. the restrictions may also be precautionary, better that the authorities err on the side of caution until the matter is resolved.

you hate to hear anything like this and if the charges stick it's certainly a heinous set of acts if it didn't come to serious violence but let's not rush to judgment.
Only if he touched her.

Also, just as something to consider, Smith is a former athlete from a sport that is known to harbor a) severe substance abuse, and b) traumatic brain injuries.

He should probably be evaluated on both accounts.

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You can't confine someone with just words...
"If you try to leave I'll ****ing kill you" can easily be considered forcible confinement. I'm pretty sure physical restraint is not required if I'm remembering the criminal code correctly.

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