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09-15-2010, 07:10 PM
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Centers:
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Drury*
Anisimov*
White*
Christensen*
Stepan
Boyle

Wings:
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Gaborik*
Frolov*
Dubinsky*
Prospal*
Callahan*
Zuccarello-Aasen*
Avery*
Grachev
Weise
Fedotenko*
Kennedy
Prust*
Boogaard*

Defensemen:
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Staal*
Girardi*
Del Zotto*
Rozsival*
Gilroy*
Redden*
McDonagh
Semenov*
Eminger
Exelby
Williams

Goaltenders:
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Lundqvist*
Biron*
Johnson
Talbot

I put stars next to the guys who I think will start on the NHL roster.

Does it work financially under the cap? I don't know.

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09-15-2010, 07:43 PM
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It's our entire center situation, not just Christensen. E. Christ wouldn't even be in the lineup projections had we had a stronger center prospect pool. Gomer and Drury not living up to the brass' expectations (albeit unrealistic) really **** things up.
Actually, the brass placing those kinds of expectations on Gomez and Drury is what really ****ed things up.

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09-15-2010, 09:22 PM
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Actually, the brass placing those kinds of expectations on Gomez and Drury is what really ****ed things up.
You're right when you're right.

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09-15-2010, 09:33 PM
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FORWARDS
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Evgeny Grachev ($0.816m) / Derek Stepan ($0.820m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Brandon Prust ($0.800m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Sean Avery ($1.937m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Pavel Valentenko ($0.850m)
Steve Eminger ($1.125m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,784,167; BONUSES: $3,115,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $5,730,833

Please.

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09-15-2010, 09:52 PM
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FORWARDS
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Evgeny Grachev ($0.816m) / Derek Stepan ($0.820m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Brandon Prust ($0.800m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Sean Avery ($1.937m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Pavel Valentenko ($0.850m)
Steve Eminger ($1.125m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,784,167; BONUSES: $3,115,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $5,730,833

Please.
I want both Stepan and Grachev to make the team as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here, I doubt either one makes the team let alone both. Also, Gilroy substituted for both rookies? Not even a 13th forward/7th D spot? I don't think that's likely either.

Sometimes people just want change for change. Is Valent/McD really going to better than Gilroy was? Probably not, considering the praise for Gilroy and his frame thus far, and that he has a season under his belt. Gilroy will more than likely play.

Again though, I'd love to see both Stepan and Grachev make the team. But the chances of both of them making the team, bumping Drury AND Avery to the fourth line is 99% not going to happen.

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09-15-2010, 09:55 PM
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Nothing can really be decided until the battle for first line center is won. We know Gaborik is 1st line RW. We know that Frolov was basically promised 1st line LW. That leaves a gaping hole between the two, keeping it from being a true first line.

Frolov #1C Battle Gaborik


I honestly think we'll see Christensen, White, Prospal, Dubinsky, Stepan, Drury and Anisimov get looks between Frolov and Gaborik during camp. This team NEEDS a top line, and whichever one of those players looks like they can drive it will get that spot.

The outcome of that battle impacts all of the others. If White doesn't nail down the top center job, he's useless at his salary. I honestly think he's #1 center or bust. I don't see Stepan staying with the big club unless he catches lightning in a bottle on that top line, either (similar to MDZ last year).

If White (and his salary) sticks on that top line, it's the automatic death knell for Wade Redden's time as a NY Ranger. If White goes down, then players like Gilroy, Eminger, and MZA all become much bigger waiver targets. We want Redden sent down. I believe that Torts/Sather are willing to do that. I do not think that they will do that lightly, and if they can keep him without hurting the team, I feel he will stay.

I just don't see where Kennedy fits. He's not a very good center, and even if he were, he's not a 4th line center, which is the only C spot he'd even be in the running to get. He'd be behind half a dozen players at Center. He's behind Frolov, Dubinsky, Avery and Prospal at LW. I just don't see how he fits into the roster (unless Prospal and/or Dubinsky play center, and Avery gets sent down to HFD).

That said, I just think it's almost useless to speculate on the lower lines. We won't even know who is competing for those spots (or how serious a chance they will have relative to their cap hits) until after the 1st line center is settled.
nice post, it reflects my feelings as well

I agree on White's status. He is either going to be #1 center or will stay the season in the AHL since if he gets called up he is waiver material and NY will be on the hook for part of it.

My gut tells me there is a place on the team for Kennedy, this is due to his salary (thank you buffalo) his skill and the conditions under which he signed in NYC

Also feel that both Kennedy and MZA bring a similar game in that they are smaller in stature skill guys. As such I believe the team has space for 1 of the 2. As such I believe that MZA starts the season in the AHL and will get the call at some point down the road. Of course he could come in and burn up the pre-season forcing his way on the team. That would be a good problem for the rangers to have.

I am not sold on Avery having a slot on the team. He was pretty terrible last year and I think Torts wants a fire under his @$$. Having said that a motivated and angry Sean Avery is an important part of the ranger sandpaper.

I just don't see Christensen being a major factor for NY, unless he shows up when he is called upon and forces coach to keep him in the lineup. Maybe the Manhattan lifestyle is just what EC needs to motivate him. Lord knows he has had his chances...

Either Redden's or Rozi's days are numbered. One of the two of them will not start the season in NY. After hearing coach talk about wade's exit interview I am rather convinced the music has stopped and wade doesn't have a seat to sit on. Maybe that gets his competitive juices flowing and he takes the opportunity to improve his game in the AHL hoping to return to NY and prove them wrong. It would be a nice story, both for him and the club which could use a smooth skating vet with chops. Redden is fodder or Rozi is bait one of the two.

lower lines wise I think it will boil down to useful-ness and chemistry. Prust looked great as a ranger and if he can play the PK I think he is a lock. Boogaard wasn't signed to sit in the pressbox. He was reported to be training with Datsyuk so I think he plays the full schedule of games with an occasional night off against the less aggressive teams in the league. Boyle needs to be physical otherwise he should not be a part of the team thus it is up to him. But these 3 guys have the inside edge.

I don't believe Fedotenko makes the club, but perhaps signs a 2 way and hopes to play down the stretch and look to make some noise in the second season assuming the cards fall in the right way for NY to make the second season.

I mentioned it in another post but NY lost 2 games to the Lottery team Toronto Maple Leafs down the stretch last season. They failed to gain even a point. They lost their chance at the post season in those two games, not the philly series.

so at the risk of repeating myself, nice post you helped make my day a brighter one
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09-15-2010, 10:06 PM
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Sather pretty much let it slip he expects Semenov to make the team and he already has a deal agreed upon and in place.

I also think they are VERY interested in MZA making this team. If it's close he may get the benefit of the doubt, and his success in Europe, and make the roster over another contender

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09-15-2010, 10:08 PM
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Frolov ($3.000m) / White ($2.375m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Christensen ($0.925m) / Prospal ($2.100m)
Avery ($1.937m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Callahan ($2.300m)
Kennedy ($0.550m) / Anisimov ($0.821m) / Prust ($0.800m)

Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)

DEFENSEMEN

Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.750m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
Exelby (550,000)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,090,833



I think there will be a lot of flip-flopping.

I foresee MZA struggling a bit on the defensive side to the point where he will be benched in favor of stronger guys on the puck.

And Exelby is a tougher version of Eminger at half the price.

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09-15-2010, 10:09 PM
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I want both Stepan and Grachev to make the team as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here, I doubt either one makes the team let alone both. Also, Gilroy substituted for both rookies? Not even a 13th forward/7th D spot? I don't think that's likely either.

Sometimes people just want change for change. Is Valent/McD really going to better than Gilroy was? Probably not, considering the praise for Gilroy and his frame thus far, and that he has a season under his belt. Gilroy will more than likely play.

Again though, I'd love to see both Stepan and Grachev make the team. But the chances of both of them making the team, bumping Drury AND Avery to the fourth line is 99% not going to happen.
Oh, I know all of this, I was just day(maybe night?)dreaming.

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09-15-2010, 10:21 PM
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I expect a trade to be honest.... but who knows. If I had to pick today I think they end up somewhere around this:


Dubinsky- Christ - Gaborik
Frolov- Prospal - MZA
Avery - Drury - Callahan
Kennedy - Anisimov- Prust

Staal - Girardi
MDZ - Rozy
McD - Semenov

Gilroy/Eminger



These lines keep some of the glimpses of chemistry from last season along with some upgrades at key spots.

MZA and Frolov upgrade the the top 6

Kennedy added to the chemistry we saw between Artem and Prust could end up being a GREAT line. That could be a real fan fave. Nice balance of size, grit, skill on the 4th line. Certainly an upgrade to the bottom 6

I think the D is on par with last year. Maybe better just by experience

Biron plays 20 could be a huge factor... nice upgrade there too.

I think they can go to war with this roster. Not saying they are a contender but they could mess some teams up for sure. If Henke gets hot ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN

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09-15-2010, 10:50 PM
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FORWARDS
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Tim Kennedy ($0.550m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Steve Eminger ($1.125m) / Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)
Alexei Semenov ($0.500m?)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,721,667(?); BONUSES: $2,162,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,840,833(?)
*-if Alexei Semenov signs for minimum


People say that Anisimov likes to play with bigger wingers, right? Well, at 6'2 Frolov is one of the bigger guys with enough skill to complement him. Plus, maybe there will be some sort of European connection between 31, 42 & 36. Plus, I believe that Artem needs top 6 minutes to grow into a player so many people expect him to become.

I think Avery will work hard to earn a spot on the line with 7million dollar man and Callahan. If Christensen won't do any damage in the beginning of the season, he might end up on the fourth line with Kennedy and Prust.

Boogie man as 13th forward, plus Semenov as 7th D. Goalies are set.

That's just what I expect.

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09-15-2010, 10:52 PM
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next yr i am all for Stepan and Grachev on the team but this year they need to develop in the AHL. I can see them getting called up if injuries occur though

also if Redden gets waived is he going to come to camp every year for the next 3 yrs only to know he is going to the AHL........go to Europe and enjoy ur millions


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I have concluded that this is what I want out of our current roster:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Tim Kennedy ($0.550m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.750m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
Alexei Semenov ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,471,667; BONUSES: $2,587,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,515,833

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I have concluded that this is what I want out of our current roster:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Tim Kennedy ($0.550m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Matt Gilroy ($1.750m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
Alexei Semenov ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,471,667; BONUSES: $2,587,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,515,833
Hey guy, this is my favorite projected line-up and cap situation to date... Just swap Gilroy with Semenov and I'll be happy. (also I think Rozsival & Staal will be paired together but that's irrelevant)

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