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09-20-2010, 11:58 AM
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What is wrong with some of you? At some point you need to look past the fact that SATHER handed out the bad contract to drury that summer. It wasnt like there were reports of drury asking for so much money and dragging out the process of nailing down a contract. It happened fast which should lead everyone to believe that sather clearly caved in. Drury is still a valuable hockey player. He plays hard whether you want to believe it or not. You can continuously be ignorant and be angry at him for the contract he has or you can finally come back down to earth now that its been what 3-4 years that hes been here and realize the type of player he actually is. He broke is finger blocking a shot in a SCRIMMAGE. The guy does have intangibles. No it didnt warrant the contract that he has, but he does so many things. Yeah itd be nice if he scored more, but that hasnt happened. He still is a great PKer, shot blocker, defensive forward, and I believe a good leader. Grow up already.

Unfortunately this is professional sports, and contracts play a huge role in how a player is viewed. That's only fair, given that it effects the rest of the team.

I'm no Drury hater, but his contract is a burden.

Don't get all bent out of shape because some people actually pay attention to contracts in a league with a salary cap in a professional sport.

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Good news. Time to see who else has $7m intangibles.

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09-20-2010, 11:59 AM
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I don't think MZA should be a scratch. Here or Hartford. And as far as I'm concerned, here. Kennedy, no thanks. Same for White.
If anybody should go it should be EC. Todd White is a highly skilled player just like MZA, except he's proven he can do it at the NHL level.

I think White deserves the benefit of the doubt over MZA simply because all he needs to prove is that he's healthy.

If MZA isnt playing on the top-2 lines, then he's really of no use. Kennedy is a great 4th liner. An energy guy with skill and smarts.

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09-20-2010, 12:00 PM
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What is wrong with some of you? At some point you need to look past the fact that SATHER handed out the bad contract to drury that summer. It wasnt like there were reports of drury asking for so much money and dragging out the process of nailing down a contract. It happened fast which should lead everyone to believe that sather clearly caved in. Drury is still a valuable hockey player. He plays hard whether you want to believe it or not. You can continuously be ignorant and be angry at him for the contract he has or you can finally come back down to earth now that its been what 3-4 years that hes been here and realize the type of player he actually is. He broke is finger blocking a shot in a SCRIMMAGE. The guy does have intangibles. No it didnt warrant the contract that he has, but he does so many things. Yeah itd be nice if he scored more, but that hasnt happened. He still is a great PKer, shot blocker, defensive forward, and I believe a good leader. Grow up already.
Very well said. The guy's contract is ridiculous, but he's a great guy who is willing to sacrifice anything and everything to win.


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Thats too bad. But it wont kill us. It may give guys like White, Boyle, or Stepan a shot where they might not have had otherwise.

I will be interested to see if they substitute a Captain for the first five games or so that he misses.
I'm excited to see Callahan with the C too

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Should only miss 3 or 4 games then correct?

Not the greatest news, but could be worse.
Maybe.

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09-20-2010, 12:03 PM
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i think Drury's cap hit still counts against the cap and the Rangers cannot exceed the cap by his salary amount because he will not be on LTIR. So the Rangers still have to clear $4 million or so in cap space and have a player replace Drury in the line-up.

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09-20-2010, 12:04 PM
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Like others have said 4 weeks seems like a long time, but really only 3 regular season games.

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Unfortunately this is professional sports, and contracts play a huge role in how a player is viewed. That's only fair, given that it effects the rest of the team.

I'm no Drury hater, but his contract is a burden.

Don't get all bent out of shape because some people actually pay attention to contracts in a league with a salary cap in a professional sport.
Did you even read the post you're responding to? He's not bent out of shape because people pay attention to contracts. He's bent out of shape because people are saying its a good thing that the captain of the NYR is going to miss the beginning of the season when he's a hard worker and a dedicated captain who is ultimately an asset to this team.

You talk as though disliking him for his contract someone lessens the burden that it causes. It doesn't.

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09-20-2010, 12:05 PM
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This is good stuff. The young players watching their captain put his body in front of a puck in a SCRIMMAGE.
Is that a good thing? I was thinking it wasn't smart. "PRACTICE! WE TALKN PRACTICE! NOT A GAME! PRACTICE"


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09-20-2010, 12:06 PM
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Like others have said 4 weeks seems like a long time, but really only 3 regular season games.
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Hope he heals up fast. My money is on Chris to score 30 goals this year. He is wayyyy too proud of a player to have two crappy seasons in a row.

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09-20-2010, 12:09 PM
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i think Drury's cap hit still counts against the cap and the Rangers cannot exceed the cap by his salary amount because he will not be on LTIR. So the Rangers still have to clear $4 million or so in cap space and have a player replace Drury in the line-up.
I think you're right. Rangers only get cap relief if he goes on the LTIR and it's not going to start counting until the season actually begins.

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This is most definitely a blessing in disguise.
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09-20-2010, 12:11 PM
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The Drury hate is out of control and ridiculous. He's overpaid. He has a bad contract. But this isn't Wade Redden. Drury plays hard and is one the teams best penalty killers. He does not embarrass the team.

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09-20-2010, 12:13 PM
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I don't think it is a good thing that he is out; but it isn't exactly on the same proportion as a Staal, Gaborik or Lundqvist injury or even a Girardi injury.

Plus hes a tenured vet so he doesnt even really need the preseason that badly.

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Hope he heals up fast. My money is on Chris to score 30 goals this year. He is wayyyy too proud of a player to have two crappy seasons in a row.
Find something less risky to bet your money on.

He's a 2nd-3rd line tweener and IMO would be better off on the wing. I don't see him getting better. I see him getting older, slower and less effective.

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09-20-2010, 12:14 PM
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I already know what Joe is going to say if we start the year bad, "Well not having Drury in the line-up with so many good things he does that dont always get noticed really hurts the team". LOl anyway room to see someone else given a try.

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09-20-2010, 12:15 PM
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I don't see this changing anything for camp or even the team. Honestly, Torts wants 3 scratches, one will be in the line-up for the beginning of the season. Hopefully this means an opportunity for Kennedy.

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Hope he heals up fast. My money is on Chris to score 30 goals this year. He is wayyyy too proud of a player to have two crappy seasons in a row.
I think he'll have a better sesason. But I'd be very surprised if he is ever put in a situation where he could score 30 goals. I can't see him getting much PP time.

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I already know what Joe is going to say if we start the year bad, "Well not having Drury in the line-up with so many good things he does that dont always get noticed really hurts the team". LOl anyway room to see someone else given a try.
Yeah, what does Joe know.

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The Drury hate is out of control and ridiculous. He's overpaid. He has a bad contract. But this isn't Wade Redden. Drury plays hard and is one the teams best penalty killers. He does not embarrass the team.
Thats all penalty killing, which i would still take Betts or guys like him over Drury anyday on the PK. The hate is warranted as it is ridicilous that we have to watch him play as if he is a top tier player.

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Its pretty absurd that some people are trying to paint this as a blessing considering our situation at center. We were already one of the worst teams down the middle in the NHL. Without Drury in the lineup, we might be the worst.

Also this should have no bearing on the Stepan situation. If hes given a spot on the roster just because Drury is down, its likely to hurt his development. He has to win a spot and the coaching staff needs to determine him NHL ready regardless of injuries.

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Thats all penalty killing, which i would still take Betts or guys like him over Drury anyday on the PK. The hate is warranted as it is ridicilous that we have to watch him play as if he is a top tier player.
Yeah, who needs to watch effort. The guy has done pretty much everything that's been asked of him. He's not performing like a top tier player? Guess what — he never was one.

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how can people be happy drury is out of the lineup? ridiculousness...

his contract isnt gone...he's just not going to be able to play

He's not Redden. He is undoubtably and NHL player and a solid 2nd-3rd liner on almost every team in the NHL

this ONLY hurts the team...we need wins where we can get them and Drury usually starts the year off pretty well

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This is mainly bad news based strictly on the fact that Wade Redden has the ability to make the team now, at least a lot more-so than before. Drury on the IR would open up the cap space for him to make the team.

Now what I envision happening is him winning a spot, playing for a few games, and eventually they realize they made a mistake, send him down, and Drury comes back on the team.

This is still trouble though. Nobody wants to see Redden play in a NYR uniform this year. The larger issue at hand is not that Drury will miss a few games, it's that Redden's chances of making the team have suddenly intensified.

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