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09-23-2010, 12:33 AM
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Valentenko has a "bomb"

Good little piece on Valentenko. Do we have a possible keeper here? Kid doesn't get a lot of press, but I'm impressed with what I'm reading, at least. You guys know more about the kids than I do; what do you think his upside is and what is his realistic ceiling?

http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2010/0...ko-has-a-bomb/

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09-23-2010, 12:50 AM
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He is a nasty SOB that plays a good defensive game. I think he can be an ideal bottom pairing guy once he gets accustomed to the NHL game.

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Valetenko reminds me alot of Boychuk, maybe a harder shot.

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09-23-2010, 01:02 AM
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Need to see him play a few games before I can comment... Would love to add more of a physical dimension to our blue-line....

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Does he have a better shot than McDonagh ?

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Our new, tougher Kasper, the friendly ghost?

Never saw him, but can someone tell me if he can be as good as the disease (Kasparaitis)?

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09-23-2010, 01:45 AM
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How have you guys seen him and have an opinion on him? Lucky you if you have time to watch Hamilton Bulldog games and actually notice a random no-name from another organization.

Also looking at his stats, his "bomb of a shot" has resulted in one career goal in over 125 pro games.


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Also looking at his stats, his "bomb of a shot" has resulted in one career goal in over 125 pro games.
Don't be so quick to dismiss. He is a prospect after all. That's what these guys do, they develop and improve skills - this could be a new thing for him.

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09-23-2010, 02:30 AM
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He's at least a solid, dependable physical third-pairing guy. I happen to think, however, that his ceiling is...well, let's just say the only thing separating him from being better than Girardi is a couple of years of NHL experience.

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Valetenko reminds me alot of Boychuk, maybe a harder shot.
He reminds me of Anton Babchuk. Hard shot, physical defensemen, been under the radar playing in Russia. I am not sure if Semenov provides anything but experience above him at this point.

I realize we do not have an experienced dman to pair with him, but if i had to choose a rookie to play with him, it would be McDonagh. I hate calling his game simple, but McDonagh plays such a fundamentally sound game that I am not worried at all about his transition to the NHL, beyond the conditioning difference of playing the NCAA schedule compared to the rigorous 82 game schedule of the NHL. I think they would be an adequate 3rd line pairing this year, with real potential to improve

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He reminds me of Anton Babchuk. Hard shot, physical defensemen, been under the radar playing in Russia. I am not sure if Semenov provides anything but experience above him at this point.

I realize we do not have an experienced dman to pair with him, but if i had to choose a rookie to play with him, it would be McDonagh. I hate calling his game simple, but McDonagh plays such a fundamentally sound game that I am not worried at all about his transition to the NHL, beyond the conditioning difference of playing the NCAA schedule compared to the rigorous 82 game schedule of the NHL. I think they would be an adequate 3rd line pairing this year, with real potential to improve
Babchuk, Johnny Boychuk; both very good comparisons.

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Also worth mentioning is that his injuries have hurt his development, which is why he has flew under the radar to most.

That being said, I think Val should be given a really hard look next year, and given the chance to play next to a more experienced Ryan Mcdonagh. I think (well, hope) that him and McDonagh can keep developing and make up a sick 3rd pairing- he's still young.

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Valentenko has a mean streak like Pronger. He's a lot like Max Lapierre too, in the sense that he gets under players skins and talks up a storm, but he can back up his words with a big fight or a nasty check.

It was a shame the Canadiens wasted their chances with him...

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Valentenko has a mean streak like Pronger. He's a lot like Max Lapierre too, in the sense that he gets under players skins and talks up a storm, but he can back up his words with a big fight or a nasty check.

Would love to add this dynamic to the D corp. What team wouldn't? Whats the catch?

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I'd love him on the team this year but I don't think it's going to happen. At least right off the bat anyways. Could possibly be the first call up if we need a D.

Just don't think that Torts wants to go into the year with two rookies on a pair.

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Would love to add this dynamic to the D corp. What team wouldn't? Whats the catch?
Valentenko isn't a great skater.

Also players like that tend to take a lot of penalties. So those are two downsides.

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Valentenko isn't a great skater.

Also players like that tend to take a lot of penalties. So those are two downsides.
true.

but if its true that slats and torts want to add some grit and toughness into the lineup, hes a guy who brings that and as a 7th dman looks like keeper.

he doesnt need to skate that great as long as he makes good reads, keeps guys in front of him, makes the simple plays off the glass and tears heads off when they get close to hank.

if i were he, i would be looking to keep it simple and play my game.

pretty much no one else on defense has the natural abilty to cause havok like valentenko can.

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He won the hardest shot in the Bulldogs skills competition back in 2008 with 102 mph.

EDIT: tried to find a link, this is the most official thing I can find:

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Valentenko isn't a great skater.

Also players like that tend to take a lot of penalties. So those are two downsides.
So he skates like Redden but he's got a solid shot and a cheaper price....sounds like an improvement to me.

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So he skates like Redden but he's got a solid shot and a cheaper price....sounds like an improvement to me.
Don't forget the physical dimension to his game

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rather have this kid make it then Exelby. Although I would give Exelby a 2 way deal. Why not its depth

Its going to be an intersting camp

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rather have this kid make it then Exelby. Although I would give Exelby a 2 way deal. Why not its depth

Its going to be an intersting camp
yes. I'd keep tank over XLB for sure.

I'm curious to see who plays better in camp. Sauer or XLB?

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yes. I'd keep tank over XLB for sure.

I'm curious to see who plays better in camp. Sauer or XLB?
To me Sauer reminds me of Potter and Lampman in that yeah they did thier job ok but there was nothing special about thier game. Very blah.

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