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09-24-2010, 02:17 PM
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New Blog Entry on Cuts and Other Possible Changes

Cuts and other possible changes? See http://hfrangersblog.com/?p=583

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Cuts and other possible changes? See http://hfrangersblog.com/?p=583
A possible trade for an experienced #1C?

Are you hearing things or is this just speculation?

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I don't engage in idle speculation.

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I don't engage in idle speculation.
Exactly... I like to discuss things that have actually happened.

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Interesting...

Though thats kind of a scary though. Id imagine the price tag on a proven #1 Center is pretty high, not to mention all of the other things we'd have to do in order to clear cap space...

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What Centers are even being shopped/available?

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What Centers are even being shopped/available?
I hear Crosby and Malkin are available

If I had to guess, I'd say someone like Ribero who I would be 100% against bringing in.

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Ribero isn't a #1 center.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were still after Richards, but I can't see how that works out very well

Savard, but he's still injured and there's a big possibility there he doesn't recover at this point

edit: my guess would be that they're still looking for a legit #1 center, but if they can't acquire one, then they'll be looking for someone like Stepan (or Christensen, to be honest) to step up

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09-24-2010, 03:03 PM
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i don't really want to trade for any #1 center right now, let stepan play see what he can do this year....let anisimov develop another year see what numbers he puts up

2 years and drury/ec/roszival(cap space) are gone then we go after a true number 1.....

as much as id love to win a cup this year or next i just think our chances are very slim....in 2 years this team can be a legit contender if our blue line continues developing and some prospects (grachev, mza, stepan) pan out

then we add a few key fa and we can compete with the best

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With the current cap issues, I'd be flat out amazed if they acquired a #1 center. What I'd imagine they're targeting is someone who is experienced, and doesn't look out of place on the first line between Frolov and Gaborik.

What #1's are even rumored to be available?

Savard? PCS. No-go there.

Richards? Maybe, but ridiculously expensive and would require a lot of assets going back to Dallas.

Ribeiro? Possible, but someone mentioned to me he was no longer on the block.

Spezza? Staying in Ottawa.

Tim Connolly? Also broken. Makes no sense to have 2/3rds of our top line be so injury prone.

Stephen Weiss? He's the only real option, but I don't think he's a #1.

Pickin's be slim. Unless something comes out of left field --like Patrick Sharp being put back on the block -- I don't see any signs.

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I hope it's not a trade, unless this surprise number one center is an out of left-field, didn't see that coming move that is actually worth it.

I don't see that being the case.

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How about we wait until Eklund decides who that Center will be!

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Nylander?

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Nylander?
Nope. They're bringing Nedved back for another tryout in hopes he can win the #1 center spot.

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Souray has played a little center back in the day right?

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Redden + pick for Souray
rozival + dubi + prospect for Richards
...... see, it's easy

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Someone would have to want Rozsival real bad to make that work because Redden isn't going anywhere and what comes to mind more than anything else is Vinny Le Cavalier and his $7.727 mil cap hit until 2019-20. In its own way though that is as toxic a contract as Redden's is so maybe that's who they have in mind.

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Redden + pick for Souray
rozival + dubi + prospect for Richards
...... see, it's easy
umm, no its not. the salary is a push, and the rangers are 4 mil over the cap. who is going to hartford?

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umm, no its not. the salary is a push, and the rangers are 4 mil over the cap. who is going to hartford?
I'll assume the smiley wasn't enough then.....sorry, haven't slept in over 48 hrs

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I wouldnt want to give up the assets required to get a #1C.

For the love of god dont do anything stupid we arent in a position to challenge for a cup so be patient and let our players grow into their roles.

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after our season opener, Stepan will be an experienced #1 center

Seriously though, what magical trade could Sather pull off to land a #1 center without over paying which is totally against his M.O. We have a pleth of spare parts (much better spare parts than in the past) to pawn off but I'm not so sure how likely it will be for Slats to strike lightning again. Then again Joe Thornton was traded for Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau, and Brad Stuart. I think a modern day equivalent would be like getting Ryan Getzlaf or Eric Staal for Dubinsky, Christensen, and Girardi (EC being the only spare part IMO) which seems like a better package than what Boston got for Big Bird. But that won't happen because Karmanos and the Samueli's aren't cheap skates like Jacobs. Getzlaf and Staal already have pretty nice long term deals.

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I'm actually satisfied with what we have now. No more moves necessary.

And I also can't see any realistic trading scenarios.

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09-24-2010, 06:31 PM
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Anymore insight Leslie?

You look at the remaining players and heres what I see,

Frolov-xxxxxxx- Gaborik
xxxxxx-xxxxxxx-xxxxx
Prospal- Drury - Callahan
Boogaard -xxxxx- Prust then add in the 13th forward

Staal - Girardi
Del Zotto -xxxxxx
xxxxxx-xxxxxxx Add in 7th D-Man

Lundqvist and Biron

Above is what I think are the givens, they are either key guys or obvious guys a la Gabbo, Frolov, Girardi, Staal, Del Zotto, Cally, ect...

Now what I don't get is that leaves 6 spots left for forward slots, then 4 on defense, and here is what remains...

Offense
Anisimov
Boyle
Christensen
Dubinsky
Fedotenko - N/C
Grachev
Kennedy
Stepan
White
Zuccarello

(Byers, Newbury, Weise, and Williams all get cut imo..)

Defense
Eminger
Exelby - N/C
Gilroy
McDonagh
Redden
Rozsival
Sauer
Semenov - N/C
Valentenko

(Same as above for Manning)

So this takes care of everybody that is still in camp. No there still is the matter of removing 4 million plus off the cap. I'm just curious how everyone see's this shaking out because the math just doesn't add up plus what we've been reading about going with youth. Now we hear about this potential number one center trade, and personally unless its Brad Richards this trade won't be for a number one center because there aren't anymore available besides him.

Lecavalier has ntc and just got gagne he's not waiving it.
Savard pcs
Thornton most likely extension
Stastny - no way/ no how
Spezza? - really doesnt make any sense

so barring any trades and even if we don't tender contracts to those here on tryouts, we still have quite a few nhl caliber players that needs to either be moved/waived and I just want to know how everyone see's this shaking out.

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Has Boston stated that Savard is out for the season? I thought I heard a report on RSN on Sirius yesterday saying as much.

Guess I'm wrong. Not seeing anything.


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