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09-24-2010, 08:46 PM
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I would've left Blanton in to possibly go for the CG (only had 74 pitches before being lifted). If he got in trouble in the 8th, fine, bring in Madson. Then again, I'm nitpicking... how can I argue with Charlie going with Madson in the 8th and Lidge in the 9th?

Braves are losing 3-1 to the Nats. Let's wrap this baby up and get that magic number down to 2 (assuming the Braves lose).

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I would've left Blanton in to possibly go for the CG (only had 74 pitches before being lifted). If he got in trouble in the 8th, fine, bring in Madson. Then again, I'm nitpicking... how can I argue with Charlie going with Madson in the 8th and Lidge in the 9th?

Braves are losing 3-1 to the Nats. Let's wrap this baby up and get that magic number down to 2 (assuming the Braves lose).
I can't wait until this is all clinched so Mad Dog can get a little rest... I agree with you about keeping Joe in there. Announcers questions fall he took maybe being a factor... but I just think Charlie has he way and he sticks with it as long as it works... I also agree with you, how can we argue with him.

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One thing is Mason hasn't been too taxed in his outings... and he did have that big DL stint in mid-season to save his arm.

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I would've left Blanton in to possibly go for the CG (only had 74 pitches before being lifted). If he got in trouble in the 8th, fine, bring in Madson. Then again, I'm nitpicking... how can I argue with Charlie going with Madson in the 8th and Lidge in the 9th?

Braves are losing 3-1 to the Nats. Let's wrap this baby up and get that magic number down to 2 (assuming the Braves lose).
I'd rather not have Blanton blow up like he tends to do sometimes.

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Magic Number 3, and the Braves are getting killed right now.

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Gamecast went a little loco. The ESPN one said Madson pitched the 9th, while MLB.com said it was Lidge. So... who was it?

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Madson 8th, Lidge 9th

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Blanton on being "overlooked" behind the Big 3: "I don't care. I'm here to win."
Hey Joe is exactly what the faithful said he was.

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Gamecast went a little loco. The ESPN one said Madson pitched the 9th, while MLB.com said it was Lidge. So... who was it?
Madson pitched the 8th and Lidge pitched the 9th.

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09-24-2010, 10:16 PM
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Man, did the Braves go to the New York Mets School of Playoff Pushes or what?

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We have the best record in the majors now. Although I'm not sure if Minny is bothering to field a competitive team, since they already clinched.

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We have the best record in the majors now. Although I'm not sure if Minny is bothering to field a competitive team, since they already clinched.
They may want to get the best record still. It won't affect who they play really, but home field advantage in ALCS might be important.

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They may want to get the best record still. It won't affect who they play really, but home field advantage in ALCS might be important.
Minny is 52-25 at home and only 40-36 on the road which is a mere 4 more wins than losses... IF I were them I'd go Hell bent to have Home Field throughout.

Same holds for the Phillies... but they have a better grasp and should clinch it with time to ease up and set up the rotation and rest players... pick and choose when and where to play the key players to keep them sharp while well rested. All things are lining up well for the Phillies to make a serious run at WS#3.

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Yea Minny is definitely going to want homefield especially because they'll have either New York or Tampa. Or both.

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Cheap but smart... They have learned that spending money at times earns more money. They found out that spending money on a new fan-friendly ballpark will bring in money... They also found out that fielding a good team in a ballpark that allows fans to spend bucks is good for business. Keeping the fans happy is netting them a windfall.

I believe that they have learned that cost cutting that lessens the product on the field, and cost cutting that takes away the feeling that the ballpark is the place to be for the young and old alike who have entertainment dollars to spend is not the way to go... Winning and making money go in in hand; take away one side of the equation and the other goes away,

I believe that they learned that making money doesn't work if you are cheap... Making money happens when they invest their money wisely... Money makes money.
I've got no idea what you're saying, but if it's in any way, shape, or form a backing of how the current ownership has spent since in place, I couldn't disagree more.

For as good as the Phillies have been recently, and for as well as some things have worked out, the organization has been equally lucky.

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The Mets don't have one .300 hitter in the lineup tonight. lol. Their best is Pagan at .291.
I love hating on the Mets, but I won't laugh at that. I remember when that was the case with the Phillies and Mike Lieberthal was the team's best hitter.

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09-25-2010, 08:54 AM
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I love hating on the Mets, but I won't laugh at that. I remember when that was the case with the Phillies and Mike Lieberthal was the team's best hitter.
Definitely shouldn't laugh at it, because we don't have one either.
(Sure, Ruiz, Werth, and Polanco are really close)

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So this is pretty awesome. David Murphy from the Daily News figured out the rotation for all 3 rounds of the playoffs. Assuming home field. The big three could start 17 or 19 possible games.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...hort_Rest.html
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NLDS

1. Oct. 6 - Game 1 - Halladay
2. Oct. 7 - Off
3. Oct. 7 - Game 2 - Hamels
4. Oct. 8 - Off
5. Oct. 9 - Game 3 - Oswalt
6. Oct. 10 - Game 4 - Halladay (Normal Rest)
7. Oct. 11 - Off
8. Oct. 12 - Game 5 - Hamels (Normal Rest)

NLCS

1. Oct. 16 - Game 1 - Halladay
2. Oct. 17 - Game 2 - Hamels
3. Oct. 18 - Off
4. Oct. 19 - Game 3 - Oswalt
5. Oct. 20 - Game 4 - Blanton
6. Oct. 21 - Game 5 - Halladay
7. Oct. 22 - Off
8. Oct. 23 - Game 6 - Hamels
9. Oct. 24 - Game 7 - Oswalt

World Series

1. Oct. 27 - Game 1 - Halladay
2. Oct. 28 - Game 2 - Hamels
3. Oct. 29 - Off
4. Oct. 30 - Game 3 - Oswalt
5. Oct. 31 - Game 4 - Blanton
6. Nov. 1 - Game 5 - Halladay
7. Nov. 2 - Off
8. Nov. 3 - Game 6 - Hamels
9. Nov. 4 - Game 7 - Oswalt

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I've got no idea what you're saying, but if it's in any way, shape, or form a backing of how the current ownership has spent since in place, I couldn't disagree more.

For as good as the Phillies have been recently, and for as well as some things have worked out, the organization has been equally lucky.
In a nutshell... they learned that you have to spend money to make money.

They decided to go ahead and build a new ballpark and make it more than just a place to have a game; they made it a place for the fans to meet and socialize... They went ahead and convinced Thome that Philly was a good place to play, showing the fans that they meant business... They more than doubled their payroll and installed a winning management with Pat Gillick and his staff and groomed Amaro... They learned that a winning organization that uses some of their income to keep a contender on the field breeds more winning... They took some calculated chances and went after and obtained top pitching and spent also on a bench... They hired and stuck with Charlie Manuel when he was laughed at as a rube by many fans... They balanced spending up to but below a luxury tax to better their return on capital.

Lucky?... They made their own luck... They were able to overcome the bad luck through preparation and hard work as they played through many injuries and stuck with players who were having a tough go of it until they came around.

In short they have become a model organization that was once a laughing stock organization... But you do have every right to disagree with any and all of that.

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So this is pretty awesome. David Murphy from the Daily News figured out the rotation for all 3 rounds of the playoffs. Assuming home field. The big three could start 17 or 19 possible games.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...hort_Rest.html
Last year it was noted that having a pitcher who could pitch on a shorter rest could have changed the outcome... This season that is not necessary it appears.





EDIT: Before I get grilled for that statement... I do realize that it is much more than that that did them in last WC; they had once ace and one underachieving past WC MVP, and an ill past his prime gamer giving his all and an aged player with more heart than gas in the tank... plus a closer that was a ghost of what he was the prior season.

This year the circumstances should be entirely different with three aces and a hopefully reborn closer... as well as a favorable schedule that allows them to field their aces close to the max.


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EDIT: Before I get grilled for that statement... I do realize that it is much more than that that did them in last WC; they had once ace and one underachieving past WC MVP, and an ill past his prime gamer giving his all and an aged player with more heart than gas in the tank... plus a closer that was a ghost of what he was the prior season.
I get 4 of the 5 (Lee, Hamels, Pedro, Lidge), but who's the aged player not Pedro? Eyre?

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Moyer?

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I really wish the Phils beat the Yankees last year. I kind of wish Pedro came back this year too....

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Moyer?
Like this season, he was hurt and didn't pitch in the playoffs, but that's probably who he meant.

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