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09-25-2010, 11:24 AM
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And the Rangers just lost a little bit of respect throughout the whole league. Players are going to think twice before accepting a contract from the Rangers, who will put you on waivers in 2 or 3 years without batting an eye.
Probably not that much. Most are going to believe that they can maintain a higher level of play than Redden did, and if they're really worried they'll push for NMCs. There are a lot of players that'll say "nah, it's not going to happen to me" when 40 mil or whatever are thrown at them.

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09-25-2010, 11:24 AM
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And the Rangers just lost a little bit of respect throughout the whole league. Players are going to think twice before accepting a contract from the Rangers, who will put you on waivers in 2 or 3 years without batting an eye.
How about the Caps with Nylander? The Hawks with Huet?

Redden played himself out of a spot in the NHL. He was the worse defenseman on the Rangers last year, with the possible exception of Gilroy (and I thought Gilroy played better than Redden). I wouldn't want him on the Rangers if he was making league minimum, except possibly as a 7th defenseman.

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09-25-2010, 11:26 AM
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Not sure why riding the bus to Rapperswil, Switzerland and living in a foreign country while making $6,500,000 is preferable to riding the bus to Albany and living in the United States while making $6,500,000.

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09-25-2010, 11:26 AM
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Probably not that much. Most are going to believe that they can maintain a higher level of play than Redden did, and if they're really worried they'll push for NMCs. There are a lot of players that'll say "nah, it's not going to happen to me" when 40 mil or whatever are thrown at them.
Its not the players that will make those kinds of decisions. Its the player's agents who will be making certain demands (like NMC's) to protect their clients against the slight possibility that they would be dumped.

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09-25-2010, 11:29 AM
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I would think if he is put on re-entry waivers, someone would pick him up at half price?

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09-25-2010, 11:30 AM
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While waiving Redden gives the NYR much needed cap-space for the season, the mere presence of Redden cap-hit during the off-season still cripples their flexibility to delve into the UFA market for high-dollar players. In the off-season when cap-flexibility is a premium, Redden's cap-hit will still be an albatross.

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09-25-2010, 11:32 AM
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Might as well say it again. Some people just don't get it. Redden is not coming back up on re-entry waivers. The Rangers will not take the chance that someone decides to grab him and pay half his salary for the next 4 seasons.

Redden has options:

1) He can report to Hartford and get his full NHL salary for this year.

2) The Rangers have told him that they'd be willing to help him find a team in Europe.

3) He can refuse to report to Hartford--terminating his contract--and try to sign with someone else.

By the way other teams have done this or similar besides the Rangers, Devils, Blackhawks--the Islanders (Yashin), the Caps (Nylander) just off the top of my head. I think a lot of people here might find their own teams having done this before.

As for future free agents--I expect NYC is going to still be a prime target for many. I think the Rangers need to be more circumspect about who they sign in the future though--for how much and for what conditions. It's a two way street.

By all accounts Redden is a good guy. He couldn't perform to anywhere near the standard for the money he was making. The message today is you don't get to hang around in NYC just for being a good guy. I don't have a problem with it. He had to go in any case. The Rangers literally had no choice for them to get cap compliant. I don't feel sorry for Wade. He's got a lot of money. He has options--he should do okay.

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09-25-2010, 11:32 AM
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Feel bad for Redden, all he did was sign the best contract he was offered.

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09-25-2010, 11:34 AM
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I would think if he is put on re-entry waivers, someone would pick him up at half price?
Who's going to pay $3.25 million per year for 3 years to a 6/7 defenseman?

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09-25-2010, 11:41 AM
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Cool man. Nobody asked for your personal opinion. Oh, it's such a surprise that you're a Canadian!
For what it's worth, I would too. And yeah, the opinion was kind of asked. Someone wondered why Redden would rather play in Switzerland than the USA, and Pyke said he'd rather play in Switzerland. It makes sense!

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09-25-2010, 11:45 AM
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For what it's worth, I would too. And yeah, the opinion was kind of asked. Someone wondered why Redden would rather play in Switzerland than the USA, and Pyke said he'd rather play in Switzerland. It makes sense!
Well ok but it entirely misses my point. Players go to Europe to get paid better than they could in the AHL. Redden already has the guaranteed money. My second point was attempting to rebut this meme about ridding buses. Do you think all these European teams charter flights everywhere? Even NHL teams ride buses sometimes.

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very apropos the thread title has a lost d

edit: thread title had Reden, since fixed


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Who's going to pay $3.25 million per year for 3 years to a 6/7 defenseman?
not even going to be possible considering hes never gonna go on reentry waivers.

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Well ok but it entirely misses my point. Players go to Europe to get paid better than they could in the AHL. Redden already has the guaranteed money. My second point was attempting to rebut this meme about ridding buses. Do you think all these European teams charter flights everywhere? Even NHL teams ride buses sometimes.
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very apropos the thread title has a lost d
Wade Dreden?

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Huet's also closer to home in Switzerland, to be fair. (Though I'd pick Switzerland over the AHL too)

Consider this too, everyone - would you rather be the example of cap turmoil that got sent down to be a minor league scrub for several years, or the one who decided to go to a budding hockey nation that's starting to define themselves as a result of said cap turmoil?

A high cap hit guy in the AHL will be remembered as more of a joke than a guy who helped the growth of Swiss hockey by being a relatively big name coming into their league right around the time of the big upswing of the program.

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$6,500,000.00 CAP HIT!

He will ONLY be picked up on re-entry waivers in my opinion ($3,250,000.00)

I would love to see Gauthier take him on re-entry waivers ONLY if Hamrlik and Spacek are off the books.

Markov - Redden
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Gill - O'Byrne
Lol, horrible idea! Hamrlik and Spacek are better then Redden

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I think that when players signed to 1-way contracts are placed on waivers, the team that waived him should be forced to eventually place him on re-entry waivers as well.

Otherwise it just gives GMs that overpay for a player (ie. Redden, Finger, etc) a loophole to get out of their problems.

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09-25-2010, 11:57 AM
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I think that when players signed to 1-way contracts are placed on waivers, the team that waived him should be forced to eventually place him on re-entry waivers as well.

Otherwise it just gives GMs that overpay for a player (ie. Redden, Finger, etc) a loophole to get out of their problems.
yeah....thats never gonna happen. so i guess you'll just have to find something else to get your panties in a bunch about.

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Well ok but it entirely misses my point. Players go to Europe to get paid better than they could in the AHL. Redden already has the guaranteed money. My second point was attempting to rebut this meme about ridding buses. Do you think all these European teams charter flights everywhere? Even NHL teams ride buses sometimes.
If you're an established NHLer who is being sent to the minors, Europe is a lot nicer to play in than the AHL.

Even past the salary and social conditions, from a pride perspective, playing in the SEL or SM-Liiga, DEL or the Swiss Elite League (can't remember it's name) is still a professional league, and does not play second fiddle in their market.

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Huet is European, Redden is North American so your argument doesn't hold much weight.

A European is much more likely to leave North America for Europe than a North American.

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The Ranger fans will be fired up at the Rock tonight!

Peace out, #6.

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And the Rangers just lost a little bit of respect throughout the whole league. Players are going to think twice before accepting a contract from the Rangers, who will put you on waivers in 2 or 3 years without batting an eye.
Haha ZOMG a player was waived, now nobody will ever think of signing with the Rangers because placing someone on waivers is SO unheard of!

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Huet is European, Redden is North American so your argument doesn't hold much weight.

A European is much more likely to leave North America for Europe than a North American.
Oh I agree. But Hfboarders too often speak in sweeping generalizations

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