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09-26-2010, 02:09 AM
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I believe the training camp roster has to be cut down to 30 within a day or two. I'd be surprised if all the bubble players aren't among the 30, so there should be more time to evaluate Skille, Stalberg, Morin, Makarov, Pisani, Potulny, Dowell and I'd put Bickell in the bibble category too. On defense, there's probably room for Connelly and Leddy to be on the 30 man roster, so hopefully we'll have a chance to see more of them too.

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09-26-2010, 02:11 AM
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Man, people were starting to think that Makarov would be a lock.

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Potulny showed flashes and is definitely a better player then I thought he was, but the only reason he scored his goal was the rebound was so massive and he was too slow to overskate the puck. Nothing about his defensive game impressed, but the guy can shoot.

Dowell looked like what he is: a capable fourth line center. Got a few chances and was dangerous for a fourth line player. Was hoping to see him get some more PK time, but Hossa - Toews is always a threat shorthanded.

Pisani has been great. Outside of Bolland he's probably been our best bottom six forward.

Skille had the best game I've ever seen him play. Was noticeable at both ends of the ice and was giving balls out effort. Very nice to see.

Stalberg was vanilla out there. Not very noticeable, and I haven't seen the alleged breakaway speed once.

Kopecky had a solid game for him. He's a very versatile forward. Doesn't look too useless in a top six role and can definitely play a bottom six one.

Dido aint ready. He's likely the next cut.

Scott can actually play hockey. I'm thinking he might not be the end of the world as our #7 D.

Beach has been totally and completely invisible. Ben Smith looked good in the limited time he's gotten. Vish already got cut, which is surprising.

Makarov has talent and isn't useless in a bottom six role. If we have the roster spot he can stay.

The style Turco plays is going to give us all a heart attack come playoff time. It was only a pre-season game and he had my heart pressure elevated a few times. Solid glove though.

Kane looks great. Hossa is still a man amongst boys physically. Toews is Toews.

Gonna be a very, very fun next couple of years with this team boys.

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09-26-2010, 02:22 AM
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I have a question: Do you guys think Makarov will make the team? I think he really has a lot of talent and can contribute to this team. I think for him to make it though, he'd have to beat out Skille. After the game Jack had against DET Saturday, I don't know anymore.

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09-26-2010, 02:32 AM
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I think he has to beat out Stalberg, not Skille.

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09-26-2010, 02:47 AM
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I think he has to beat out Stalberg, not Skille.
How is there room for Stalberg/Makarov and Skille?

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09-26-2010, 04:01 PM
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Turco's Glove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huet's and Niemi's
Fixed.

There was one save last night on a shot from the slot that Turco made. Calm and steady, glove at the right spot, with a replay from above. I immediately thought that Niemi would have stabbed at it in that odd lunging fashion of his. Sooo awkward. Loved seeing that Turco catch.

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09-26-2010, 04:31 PM
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All I know is our depth won't be a problem this season.

Turco's puck handling combined with our normally very fast skating team is going to fun to watch.

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09-26-2010, 04:50 PM
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All I know is our depth won't be a problem this season.

Turco's puck handling combined with our normally very fast skating team is going to fun to watch.
It's kind of sad to me that it's approaching the end of the puck-handling goalie era. None of these guys coming up seem to handle quite like Turco or Brodeur (to me, even Brodeur is a step below, though he definitely makes up for it in other ways). And with the trapezoid, I don't think too many kids are really going to try and work on that aspect of their game.

It's a real shame, because it's really one of those icing on the cake things that make certain goalies so much fun to watch.

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09-26-2010, 05:02 PM
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It's kind of sad to me that it's approaching the end of the puck-handling goalie era. None of these guys coming up seem to handle quite like Turco or Brodeur (to me, even Brodeur is a step below, though he definitely makes up for it in other ways). And with the trapezoid, I don't think too many kids are really going to try and work on that aspect of their game.

It's a real shame, because it's really one of those icing on the cake things that make certain goalies so much fun to watch.
The trapezoid has stunted the development of puck skills for goalies. They can't chase it down in order to move it, so they just stand in the crease.

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09-26-2010, 05:21 PM
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What was the reasoning behind the trapezoid rule?

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09-26-2010, 05:32 PM
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What was the reasoning behind the trapezoid rule?
To help kill the trap

Good rule IMO ,,,

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09-26-2010, 05:45 PM
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To help kill the trap

Good rule IMO ,,,
I like the idea (I've seen it around here a couple of times) of having the goalie being able to handle the puck anywhere behind the red line, but they can be checked whenever they're outside of the trapezoid.

Kills the trap and allows for puck handling with a little added edge.

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09-26-2010, 06:09 PM
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I like the idea (I've seen it around here a couple of times) of having the goalie being able to handle the puck anywhere behind the red line, but they can be checked whenever they're outside of the trapezoid.

Kills the trap and allows for puck handling with a little added edge.
Given the money invested in alot of goalies you will never see that idea come to fruition

Although goalies that play puck should be fair game if they venture out

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09-26-2010, 07:31 PM
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How is there room for Stalberg/Makarov and Skille?
Brouwer-Toews-Kane
Kopecky-Sharp-Hossa
Makarov/Stalberg-Bolland-Pisani
Bickell-*Dowell-Skille
x*Potulny

*interchangeable

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09-27-2010, 02:19 AM
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Brouwer-Toews-Kane
Kopecky-Sharp-Hossa
Makarov/Stalberg-Bolland-Pisani
Bickell-*Dowell-Skille
x*Potulny

*interchangeable
There's no Jermey Morin in this. He would push a winger out, probably Kopecky, who'd move to center and kick Dowell out of a spot. Then, Potulny doesn't make it, and one of Makarov and Stalberg make it.

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09-27-2010, 04:16 AM
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How is there room for Stalberg/Makarov and Skille?
Morin-Toews-Kane
Brouwer-Sharp-Hossa
Makarov-Bolland-Pisani
Bickell-Dowell-Kopecky
(Skille)

Stalberg hasn't shown he should be handed a roster spot

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09-27-2010, 04:20 AM
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Brouwer-Toews-Kane
Morin-Sharp-Hossa
Stalberg-Bolland-Skille
Bickell-Kopecky-Pisani
(Dowell)
fixed it

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09-27-2010, 11:03 AM
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Hard to say what's going on with Makarov. He seemed to be impressing...but then only got sparce 4th line minutes the other night against the Wings. Perhaps he's not impressing in practices or scrimmages that we don't see?

As for Morin...my guess is it's 50/50 at best that he makes the team out of training camp. I hope he does and I'd love to see him immediately slotted with Toews and Kane/Hossa. But he does have a bigger cap hit than Stalberg does and the Hawks also might feel he could benefit from some time in the AHL.

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09-27-2010, 11:15 AM
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Hard to say what's going on with Makarov. He seemed to be impressing...but then only got sparce 4th line minutes the other night against the Wings. Perhaps he's not impressing in practices or scrimmages that we don't see?

As for Morin...my guess is it's 50/50 at best that he makes the team out of training camp. I hope he does and I'd love to see him immediately slotted with Toews and Kane/Hossa. But he does have a bigger cap hit than Stalberg does and the Hawks also might feel he could benefit from some time in the AHL.
He also has more bonuses than Stalberg, so his effective cap hit is actually $20k less.

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09-27-2010, 11:16 AM
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Makarov has the worst luck and it really makes me root for him even more. Everywhere he goes, he gets the shaft on ice time, yet you only hear good things about him when he's on the ice. Maybe Q doesn't like Russians?

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