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09-29-2010, 12:12 PM
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Both are average to below-average, but neither is the worst in the NHL. I get you don't like them as goalies, but saying they're the worst is taking it a bit far.
Martin Brodeur
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Alex Auld
Brent Johnson
Scott Clemmensen
Nikolai Khabibulin
Jason LaBarbera
Thomas Greiss

I'd say that both of Leighton and Bouch are not better than any of these goalies. And as far as just starting goalies, I'd definitely back that they are by far and away the worst....not sure who you'd think is worse than them.

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09-29-2010, 12:16 PM
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Martin Brodeur
Miikka Kiprusoff
Henrik Lundqvist
Jonathan Quick
Craig Anderson
Ilya Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Jimmy Howard
Tomas Vokoun
Chris Mason
Niklas Backstrom
Jonas Hiller
Pekka Rinne
Steve Mason
Brian Elliott
Marty Turco
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Cam Ward
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Mathieu Garon
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Pascal Leclaire
Dan Ellis
Martin Biron
Semyon Varlamov
Ty Conklin
Josh Harding
Alex Auld
Brent Johnson
Scott Clemmensen
Nikolai Khabibulin
Jason LaBarbera
Thomas Greiss

I'd say that both of Leighton and Bouch are not better than any of these goalies. And as far as just starting goalies, I'd definitely back that they are by far and away the worst....not sure who you'd think is worse than them.
that is scary. We have a rolls royce chasis and yugo engine.

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I think I pass on Threeormore.
as they say on this board.
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Ill take my chances with what we got. I dont trust Theodore. at all.

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09-29-2010, 12:25 PM
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Yeah but he lies a lot.
he has learned that well from Clarke.

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as they say on this board.
+1

Ill take my chances with what we got. I dont trust Theodore. at all.
+1

I agree.

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as they say on this board.
+1

Ill take my chances with what we got. I dont trust Theodore. at all.
Remind me. What do we got?

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09-29-2010, 12:33 PM
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What do we got?
A "just took us to the second-round" Boucher, a health-issue Backlund, and a young Bob.

All better than Threeormore, who hasn't had good numbers since his 2001-02. He was using that steroid shampoo back then.

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09-29-2010, 12:37 PM
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A "just took us to the second-round" Boucher, a health-issue Backlund, and a young Bob.
Ain't **** basically. Try to fit Boucher somewhere in post 26.
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All better than Threeormore, who hasn't had good numbers since his 2001-02. He was using that steroid shampoo back then.
At least he was good.. By the way he was .910 in over 40 games last year. Was Boucher even .900?

Last season Boucher almost scored in his own net in one of the game against NYR. Game 81 or 82. We have to thnak Sather for Jokinens trade.


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Remind me. What do we got?
I know who we have. Theodore is exactly what we have now. I dont trust Leighton or Boucher.
So what do you do if you sign Theodore? waive Boucher when Leighton returns from injury? you should know by now Holmgren doesnt operate like that. We have 2 goalies after Leighton and Boucher who could step in and do what Theodore could do. for less money.
You should know who I wanted back on July 1st.

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I'd say that both of Leighton and Bouch are not better than any of these goalies. And as far as just starting goalies, I'd definitely back that they are by far and away the worst....not sure who you'd think is worse than them.
For argument's sake, and post-padding, I offer the sheer mightiness of the Oilers G squad as probably the worst in the league:
  • Jeff Deslauriers
  • Devan Dubnyk
  • Martin Gerber
  • Nikolai Khabibulin

And the Islanders duo of anciet Dwayne Roloson and Rick DiPi-LTIR-o could give them a run for their money.

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09-29-2010, 12:46 PM
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Ain't **** basically. Try to fit Boucher somewhere in post 26.
Pfft. Alphabetical via Excel!

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At least he was good.. By the way he was .910 in over 40 games last year. Was Boucher even .900?
I know - and no.

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Last season Boucher almost scored in his own net in one of the game against NYR. Game 81 or 82. We have to thnak Sather for Jokinens trade.
If it were possible to simply cut Boosh a la the NFL and sign Theodore, I'd be on board. It can't happen, so... no Theo for backup.

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09-29-2010, 12:51 PM
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I know who we have. Theodore is exactly what we have now. I dont trust Leighton or Boucher.

So what do you do if you sign Theodore? waive Boucher when Leighton returns from injury? you should know by now Holmgren doesnt operate like that. We have 2 goalies after Leighton and Boucher who could step in and do what Theodore could do. for less money.
You should know who I wanted back on July 1st.
That.. Thats all I need to know.

You do not know what Theodore wants and we do not know Leightons future with his disk. Disk could be tricky injuries. So yes.. A curveball was thrown at us.

At least look at him, sign him to a try out contract. I do not think Theo is a great option, I do not even think that he is that good anymore but he is there and looks like he is available.


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What gets me is that we were, by a large majority, very down on Leighton as #1 when he was 100%. I believe that the odds of him returning at ≥95% this season are slim. Holmgren shouldn't be content with a stopgap measure, in the hope that Leighton will return to provide superior goaltending.

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09-29-2010, 01:01 PM
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Theo may have had an inflated winning percentage because of Washington's team, but you can't fake his SVPCT number, especially behind a porous defensive unit.

Theo > Boucher > Leighton

What exactly does it hurt to give him 700K to come and compete for the starting job with Bouch?

Btw, Brovski has a 1.6M cap hit this year, for whoever said he makes less than Theo would.

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Ill take Theo only if he signs for the league minimum.

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Theo may have had an inflated winning percentage because of Washington's team, but you can't fake his SVPCT number, especially behind a porous defensive unit.

Theo > Boucher > Leighton

What exactly does it hurt to give him 700K to come and compete for the starting job with Bouch?

Btw, Brovski has a 1.6M cap hit this year, for whoever said he makes less than Theo would.
How about when the games really counted?
Theo had a .875 in the playoffs, playing behind Varlamov (.908). Boosh was at .909. Just sayin'.

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Martin Brodeur
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Jonathan Quick
Craig Anderson
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Ryan Miller
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Jimmy Howard
Tomas Vokoun
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Dan Ellis
Martin Biron
Semyon Varlamov
Ty Conklin
Josh Harding
Alex Auld
Brent Johnson
Scott Clemmensen
Nikolai Khabibulin
Jason LaBarbera
Thomas Greiss

I'd say that both of Leighton and Bouch are not better than any of these goalies. And as far as just starting goalies, I'd definitely back that they are by far and away the worst....not sure who you'd think is worse than them.
They're both better than LaBarbera. Possibly Auld too.

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Theo may have had an inflated winning percentage because of Washington's team, but you can't fake his SVPCT number, especially behind a porous defensive unit.

Theo > Boucher > Leighton

What exactly does it hurt to give him 700K to come and compete for the starting job with Bouch?

Btw, Brovski has a 1.6M cap hit this year, for whoever said he makes less than Theo would.
Not exactly true. Half of that is performance bonuses, which the Flyers can opt to "hit" next year's cap if they so desire.

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Not exactly true. Half of that is performance bonuses, which the Flyers can opt to "hit" next year's cap if they so desire.
I thought last year was the last year of allowing teams to flex bonuses, since the CBA update is coming soon.

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That.. Thats all I need to know.

You do not know what Theodore wants and we do not know Leightons future with his disk. Disk could be tricky injuries. So yes.. A curveball was thrown at us.

At least look at him, sign him to a try out contract. I do not think Theo is a great option, I do not even think that he is that good anymore but he is there and looks like he is available.
I suspect that Leightons back was bothering him when camp opened. a bulging disc just doesnt happen over night. it happens over time. I would think that if the Flyers wanted to look at Theodore they would have done it when they brought in Guerin.
Kind of late for a tryout deal right now I would think.

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Martin Brodeur
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Henrik Lundqvist
Jonathan Quick
Craig Anderson
Ilya Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Jimmy Howard
Tomas Vokoun
Chris Mason
Niklas Backstrom
Jonas Hiller
Pekka Rinne
Steve Mason
Brian Elliott
Marty Turco
Antero Niittymaki
Johan Hedberg
Cam Ward
Jaroslav Halak
Tuukka Rask
Tim Thomas
Jonas Gustavsson
Ondrej Pavelec
Mike Smith
Carey Price
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Mathieu Garon
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Pascal Leclaire
Dan Ellis
Martin Biron
Semyon Varlamov
Ty Conklin
Josh Harding
Alex Auld
Brent Johnson
Scott Clemmensen
Nikolai Khabibulin
Jason LaBarbera
Thomas Greiss

I'd say that both of Leighton and Bouch are not better than any of these goalies. And as far as just starting goalies, I'd definitely back that they are by far and away the worst....not sure who you'd think is worse than them.
Gotta really question your knowlegde if you really believe this.......glad your just a GM in playstation.

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O yes, next year cap hit will be awesome.. Lets leave everything for next year when we will have to resign Carter and Giroux. Possible 10M cap hit if we are lucky. Plus Bobrovsky bonuses...

That is it.

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I suspect that Leightons back was bothering him when camp opened. a bulging disc just doesnt happen over night. it happens over time.
Over night or over 5 nights or he was shy about sharing it. At this point we do not care.

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I would think that if the Flyers wanted to look at Theodore they would have done it when they brought in Guerin.
Or maybe we need to be hit by a curveball? Right between the eyes.
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Kind of late for a tryout deal right now I would think.
Good point.. Is it late to sign a player to a try out contract?

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Not exactly true. Half of that is performance bonuses, which the Flyers can opt to "hit" next year's cap if they so desire.
Theodore is garbage, and has the mental fortitude of a retarded groundhog who gets terrified the second he sees the shadow of another competent goaltender in his organization.

No thanks, even if Kaktus loves the guy.

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Theodore is garbage, and has the mental fortitude of a retarded groundhog who gets terrified the second he sees the shadow of another competent goaltender in his organization.

No thanks, even if Kaktus loves the guy.
Ohh now I I love the guy? lol..

Well since we do not have competent goaltender in our organization. We are ok, I shoudl say Theo is ok. That is if he signs with us. Looks like we are interested.

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If ya want a link go watch the show "L'Antichambre" on RDS where Raymond explain why he thinks Theo could very well be a Flyers. If you speak french go on...

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