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09-30-2010, 01:28 AM
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how's this for an endorsement?

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“Feds flies under the radar, I think,” said Tortorella. “He makes subtle plays and is just a solid guy. He is a guy where I can look down the bench and trust him in any situation.”

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09-30-2010, 02:00 AM
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If the terms are dirt cheap, whatever. I just think signing more forwards right now isn't a great idea when it's probable that one of the ones we have now can match whatever Feds would bring for us.

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09-30-2010, 02:17 AM
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I hope he doesn't make it. He's played well IN PRESEASON but he's not someone I want taking the place of someone else we already have in the system.
Agreed you can't put much stock in what a 9-year vet does in pre-season games. Especially when, in his 9 actual seasons, he's only hit 20 goals once and 40 pts once. Though, I do like his playoff experience. Meh... it's the same as most of the guys on the border here... not much point wasting thoughts on it: the coaches are gonna pick who the coaches are gonna pick.

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09-30-2010, 03:52 AM
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Look at how Tort's guys play for him. Tort's is a pretty angry dude sometimes, but there is a reason these veterans flock to him and play so well. If Fedotenko has made the team, I'd expect to see a Prospal-like rebound from him. 18g-22a-40p

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09-30-2010, 05:32 AM
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If all or players wore the same number, and didn't have their last names stitched on their jerseys, Fedetenko would be getting a lot more attention.

I admit I didn't really want him here... I didn't expect him to actually contend for a roster spot, especially when you consider some guys like Kennedy and White becoming part of our club.

But I like how he's been playing. I think Torts is going to use some pretty weird looking lines to start the year, so I'm not sure where Feds plays.

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09-30-2010, 05:49 AM
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We already lost Drury to a broken finger, we will lose more guys during the year. I feel Fedotenko is the better option out of the two to step up more offensively and give secondary scoring when the lineup is healthy. Also Avery plays LW and misses 20 or so odd games a season between his injuries and suspensions. It's not the worst idea to have a veteran russian for guys like Anisimov, Grachev, ect. A veteran with two rings and a lot of playoff experience.

Some of you were willing to give Zherdev another chance and he did nothing in the playoffs and would cost a lot more. Already showed he would crumble under a coach like Torts where Fedotenko played well under him. I don't see the draw back to signing him.
i agree. and kennedy and fedotenko are not fighting for the same job. fedotenko will play on the 2ed or 3rd line and some pp time, i dont think fedotenko will play much on the pk, while kennedy will play 3rd and 4th line with little pp and a lot more pk time.

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09-30-2010, 07:34 AM
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Fedotenko will get a 1yr deal in the area of $750k to $1m I think

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09-30-2010, 07:47 AM
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i think you saw ftank cement his spot last night. he not only doesnt look out of place, hes been one of our best players each game hes dressed. he brings offense and thats something we need.

problem is, hes not a good checker. he really should not be on a checking line. at this point in his career, let him control the puck down low, cycle and shoot. hes a good offensive player but wont do much in the def zone. trust me, hell fail if hes asked to forecheck too much.

plus, hes a torts guy, hell come fairly cheap on a 1 yr deal and wont block anyone next year. it all makes sense.


top 9 like this looks good to me.

fro prospal gaby
dubi stepan ftank
avery arty cally

i can honestly say, thats a decent top 9 to start with.

a nice mix of veteran smarts, skilled youth, outside speed and some sandpaper.

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09-30-2010, 08:36 AM
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i think you saw ftank cement his spot last night. he not only doesnt look out of place, hes been one of our best players each game hes dressed. he brings offense and thats something we need.

problem is, hes not a good checker. he really should not be on a checking line. at this point in his career, let him control the puck down low, cycle and shoot. hes a good offensive player but wont do much in the def zone. trust me, hell fail if hes asked to forecheck too much.

plus, hes a torts guy, hell come fairly cheap on a 1 yr deal and wont block anyone next year. it all makes sense.


top 9 like this looks good to me.

fro prospal gaby
dubi stepan ftank
avery arty cally

i can honestly say, thats a decent top 9 to start with.

a nice mix of veteran smarts, skilled youth, outside speed and some sandpaper.
Yup yup yup! I was completely perplexed when he was first invited to camp. Not anymore. He's impressed the heck out of me so far and if he can play consistently like he has been playing, then he's going to be one heck of a good addition to our club; and for cheap!

I'm actually impressed to the point that I'd be downright angry if he didn't make the club. He's gonna play a vital role in our success this year. Just watch.

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09-30-2010, 10:57 AM
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Too many forwards, way too many. We need to clear some room.

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cheap please, new prospal.

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As long as he isnt looking for a ton of money I have no problem with him making the team...get rid of Todd white though

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cheap please, new prospal.
In his dreams. Or more importantly, in our dreams. Either way, it's only in a dream world where Fedotenko can even approach being in the same stratosphere of production.

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I am 100% for signing Feds now...he has played VERY well, hes very noticable on the ice and he makes plays. HE has been a huge part of the Penguins run a few years ago and I think hes a vet we could use with so many young players on our team. Good luck feds!

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Also want to add that I want Avery, Stepan and Ftank to remain a line. There was chemistry there. A definite spark. They're practicing together today so I'd assume that Tort's has the same tingly feeling about what they're potential might be as I do. Maybe it's nothing; or maybe it's something. There was just somethin special about that line last night. Hell, the entire line was the top 3 stars of the game!

I'm hoping it continues and impresses. Problem is, if that line remains a real line for the roster than how in the world will the other lines work out with Prospal, Drury, EC to add in. I think EC's a goner.

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09-30-2010, 01:24 PM
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In his dreams. Or more importantly, in our dreams. Either way, it's only in a dream world where Fedotenko can even approach being in the same stratosphere of production.
not to mention a great deal of Prospals offense was because he played with Gabby...once he was taken off of gabbys line his offensive numbers plummeted

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not to mention a great deal of Prospals offense was because he played with Gabby...once he was taken off of gabbys line his offensive numbers plummeted
During which stretch are you referring to? How many points did he have in how many games?

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not to mention a great deal of Prospals offense was because he played with Gabby...once he was taken off of gabbys line his offensive numbers plummeted
It doesn't matter what line you are on when your playing on one leg for the 2nd half of the season.

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09-30-2010, 10:56 PM
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I didn't want Fedotenko here at first. He has played decently well thus far. I have a feeling that there is a level of concern though that the Rangers are more concerned with Prospal's health than they have led on. As has been mentioned on the board, Prospal struggled a fair bit after his return from the knee injury last year and the team has been extremely cautious with him. Prospal has been extremely durable throughout his career. He has played no less than 74 games since 1999 season.

He is not really blocking any kids from Hartford. None of the wingers is really ready to be a 2nd-3rd liner. Grachev seemed to be the only possibility but he had a poor camp. The only player I am somewhat concerned about is Avery. Fedotenko is a Tortorella guy. To this point, despite both saying they have respect for each other in the media, and Avery saying the right things, there appears to be some kind of constraint placed on him by the coaching staff. Hopefully, they realize how good Avery has been in camp and preseason games, and that Avery 2.0 brings much more good than bad.

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how's this for an endorsement?

I'd say it's a good bet that he's made the team.

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“Feds flies under the radar, I think,” said Tortorella. “He makes subtle plays and is just a solid guy. He is a guy where I can look down the bench and trust him in any situation.”
Hard to say. He certainly flew under the radar of the other 29 teams. If the Rangers keep Fedotenko, I hope he does well... I'd love to be surprised. But for now I'll maintain realistic expectations. He's a career 35 points a season kinda guy over 9 seasons, and that's more telling than a few pre-season games against AHLers or Detroit when their first line and Lidstrom were sitting out. But I'll hope for the best nonetheless.

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I didn't want Fedotenko here at first. He has played decently well thus far. I have a feeling that there is a level of concern though that the Rangers are more concerned with Prospal's health than they have led on. As has been mentioned on the board, Prospal struggled a fair bit after his return from the knee injury last year and the team has been extremely cautious with him. Prospal has been extremely durable throughout his career. He has played no less than 74 games since 1999 season.

He is not really blocking any kids from Hartford. None of the wingers is really ready to be a 2nd-3rd liner. Grachev seemed to be the only possibility but he had a poor camp. The only player I am somewhat concerned about is Avery. Fedotenko is a Tortorella guy. To this point, despite both saying they have respect for each other in the media, and Avery saying the right things, there appears to be some kind of constraint placed on him by the coaching staff. Hopefully, they realize how good Avery has been in camp and preseason games, and that Avery 2.0 brings much more good than bad.
Mats Zuccarello Aasen says hello. He will be back up before January, imo.

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Mats Zuccarello Aasen says hello. He will be back up before January, imo.
Fair I suppose. Zuccarello showed promise but didn't look ready. Needs to adjust to North American game.

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Bottom line here is that Fedotenko played his way on the team and MZA didn't do nearly enough to block it.

I'm all for incorporating youth in the line-up, but not because they are young. Because they have earned it.

Stepan has earned it, MZA didn't, Byers didn't, Weise didn't

Fedotenko outplayed the kids and earned a spot on the team, where is the down side here?

It's not like we lost the kids cause Feds made the team, They are still with us continuing their developement, if it comes time to trade/waive Feds, then there's still no downside.

Feds making the team beacuse he earned it is not what people should be upset with.

The kids not making the team cause they DIDN'T earn it is where the focus should be.

just my .02

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I suspect Fedotenko is well on his way to making the team--he's played well and Tortorella trusts him. Plus, as someone else mentioned above, Prospal's knee injury way be another factor (although Fedotenko is not as skilled as Prospal).

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