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09-30-2010, 11:21 AM
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Oilers waive Souray and Gerber

http://twitter.com/WharnsCBCSPORTS/status/25992925585


The Oilers have put Sheldon Souray and Martin Gerber on waivers.

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09-30-2010, 11:22 AM
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If that's true, I think they're going to do the re-entry waiver thing for Souray.

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09-30-2010, 11:23 AM
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I'm a little worried about Gerber being snapped up, maybe by the Caps or the Wild.

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http://twitter.com/WharnsCBCSPORTS/status/25992925585


The Oilers have put Sheldon Souray and Martin Gerber on waivers.
I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?

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09-30-2010, 11:26 AM
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I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?
2-way deal is about the money (one salary in the NHL, a lower in the AHL). It doesn't effect waivers. Gerber would need to clear regardless of being on a 2-way or 1-way.

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I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?
grrr...

I hope they wait til Souray clears and then waive him again with Petry.. then once he clears again waive him with Ondrus.. and so on and so forth til he becomes the most waived player of all time !

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I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?
Two way deals just define the salaries paid. However, a player still needs to clear waivers to be sent down. Basically it gives the player the chance to have the higher of his 2 salaries paid, if he moves to another team.

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I would assume they have to put Gerber on waivers if they want to send him down to the minors? Teams weren't fighting over him before he was signed here. I think he'll clear.

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I'm a little worried about Gerber being snapped up, maybe by the Caps or the Wild.
Because there is so much demand for Martin Gerber, that he just had to play for a year in the KHL? So much demand, that he signed a two-way contract with the last place Oilers?

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09-30-2010, 11:28 AM
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I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?
Are you kidding me? Still!


We signed him to a two way deal to put him on waivers


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I thought we signed Gerber to a 2-way deal? Why would the oilers put him on waivers?
Because if he doesn't make the team, he has to go the farm.

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Because there is so much demand for Martin Gerber, that he just had to play for a year in the KHL? So much demand, that he signed a two-way contract with the last place Oilers?
Things change. Wild just lost their backup for the year and a cheap alternative to a rookie might be ideal.

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09-30-2010, 11:31 AM
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So ... what happens if Souray reports for OKC? Are they going to let him play? Do they have to let him play?

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I'm a little worried about Gerber being snapped up, maybe by the Caps or the Wild.
I'm not really worried about it. I think it's possible, but I'm really not worried

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09-30-2010, 11:32 AM
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Things change. Wild just lost their backup for the year and a cheap alternative to a rookie might be ideal.
If you want a cheap back-up, I can think of a number of better opportunities than Martin Gerber. Most of whom could probably could be had for "future considerations".

Or I could just wait to see which of the other Oilers goalies Edmonton ends up cutting.

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grrr...

I hope they wait til Souray clears and then waive him again with Petry.. then once he clears again waive him with Ondrus.. and so on and so forth til he becomes the most waived player of all time !
Cruel but funny!

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Souray what have you done to yourself man? Sometimes you just got to keep the mouth shut. Sad and hilarious.

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I would assume they have to put Gerber on waivers if they want to send him down to the minors? Teams weren't fighting over him before he was signed here. I think he'll clear.
Well I have had a few discussions on why Gerber was signed. My contention was that he was signed for OKC right from the start (and of course some insurance in case of goalie injuries up top). Some posters seem to think he was signed for the big club. Waiving him this early would seem to confirm that he was ticketed for the Barons from the start.

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Are you kidding me? Still!


We signed him to a two way deal to put him on waivers
yes....still

I was obviously mistaken about the waiver rules, I thought the 2-way deal allowed him to go down un-touched. Clearly I was wrong, thanks so much for pointing this out...

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grrr...

I hope they wait til Souray clears and then waive him again with Petry.. then once he clears again waive him with Ondrus.. and so on and so forth til he becomes the most waived player of all time !
I think you have to wait 3-4 weeks to put someone on waivers again after they cleared if you don't designate them for assignment.

Could be wrong though.

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09-30-2010, 11:41 AM
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Still no trade value for Souray.. Poor guy. lol

At this point, I am thinking the team will make him sit out the year.

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09-30-2010, 11:44 AM
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Still no trade value for Souray.. Poor guy. lol

At this point, I am thinking the team will make him sit out the year.
That would cost the club 4.5M real money and then they would have to deal with the issue at a later time.

If Edmonton puts Souray on re-entry waivers it would cost them 4.5M and the issue would be resolved.

I'm hoping that they let him sit though.

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09-30-2010, 11:45 AM
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yes....still

I was obviously mistaken about the waiver rules, I thought the 2-way deal allowed him to go down un-touched. Clearly I was wrong, thanks so much for pointing this out...
The issue is it's not just you, it's half this board. I argued this exact thing a week ago and used Schremp as a clear example of a player on a two-way that had to clear waivers and I just got replies back saying that Schremp wasn't on a two-way last year (he was).

It's not a hard and fast rule, but generally if a player is on his first contract (entry-level deal) he doesn't have to clear waivers and if he isn't then he does. It's not that clear cut but probably applies to 90% of the cases. In reality it has to do with a balance of professional games played and the player's age.

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grrr...

I hope they wait til Souray clears and then waive him again with Petry.. then once he clears again waive him with Ondrus.. and so on and so forth til he becomes the most waived player of all time !
Hilarious! I was just thinking "how many times can the Oilers put this guy on waivers?"

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yes....still

I was obviously mistaken about the waiver rules, I thought the 2-way deal allowed him to go down un-touched. Clearly I was wrong, thanks so much for pointing this out...
Don't worry about it. Some posters just get frustrated because they correct the misconception so much and then it keeps popping up again and again. Despite that it would be nice if people had a little more patience with those not in the know.


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