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09-28-2010, 11:07 PM
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Goddamnit.

If it's not one thing it's a ****ing nother.

So, this time, our GM is actually making the right call and our coach (who I've previously had no problems with) isn't? **** this ****.
Holmgren actually does have a solid eye for talent. I think it is just often focused in the wrong direction (we need an enforcer! we need another 6th d-man! Yay!) or he is pushed to accept garbage deals since he is so woefully inept at managing the salary cap and draft picks.

But, that being said, if Homer thinks one of the kids has more to bring to the table than Bill Guerin, then he might know what he's talking about.

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09-28-2010, 11:21 PM
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Well, this is just what Meltzer thinks based on the words they've chosen, or that's the basis he provides, so he may be wrong.
Agreed. Plus, as someone (Valhoun? Garbage Goal?) pointed out in another thread, Holmgren has a habit of saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.

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09-28-2010, 11:33 PM
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i dont think guerins a fourth line player. but i dont see any of the guys currently auditioning in a 3rd line role. its still a pretty big field for those last couple spots and i have the feeling some of them could be hanging around for a while. thier contracts also allow for some flexibility i dont know if holmgrens the kind of guy whod run a veteran through the paces just to waive him in december. 3rd line winger is still a big old questionmark this far into camp

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09-29-2010, 04:38 AM
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Zherdev - Giroux - JVR
Carter - Richards - Carcillo
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Powe - Betts/holmstrom - Shelley

I don't really see whats wrong with this. It's not like Richards and Carter and going to need a superstar winger to play with them.

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09-29-2010, 04:55 AM
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Zherdev - Giroux - JVR
Carter - Richards - Carcillo
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Powe - Betts/holmstrom - Shelley

I don't really see whats wrong with this. It's not like Richards and Carter and going to need a superstar winger to play with them.
I can agree with that. If Richie and Carter can figure it out, that would be a fun line to watch.

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09-29-2010, 06:47 AM
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Why is it that so many wants to split up Carter and Hartnell? I mean - those two have been behind most your ES scoring for a couple of years.
Still having 'love issues' ?

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09-29-2010, 06:52 AM
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Why is it that so many wants to split up Carter and Hartnell? I mean - those two have been behind most your ES scoring for a couple of years.
Still having 'love issues' ?
Because the Hartnell-Briere-Lieno line tore it up in the playoffs, and Lavy already said he is going to try that line again, come beginning of the season.

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09-29-2010, 06:53 AM
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Why is it that so many wants to split up Carter and Hartnell? I mean - those two have been behind most your ES scoring for a couple of years.
Still having 'love issues' ?
they have not been linemates in a while, did you miss last years playoffs?

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09-29-2010, 08:10 AM
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You need to relax a little son. Whether Guerin makes the team or not you better just hope the right decision is made whichever it may be. But if Lavy sees something in Guerin I'm more inclined to agree with Lavy then you guys. But its really nothing to get worked up over.
Exactly, I had wanted to move Carter to get a goalie, Homer did not agree, now if Carter goes out and proves me wrong and they win a Cup I will gladly eat my words and hope Homer can figure out how to pay for him with all the excess salary he took on this past summer. We offer opinions on what we think we know, but the reality of it is we are all armchair QB's offering our opinions while the coaches and GM's make the tough decisions which can result in them either keeping their jobs or getting fired.

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09-29-2010, 08:20 AM
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Why is it that so many wants to split up Carter and Hartnell? I mean - those two have been behind most your ES scoring for a couple of years.
Still having 'love issues' ?
It was also brutal last season, it may be time for a change and put Hartnell with another pair and see if it works, the Leino-Briere-Hartnell line seemed to click so I would assume this will be the first choice.

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09-29-2010, 03:23 PM
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Zherdev - Giroux - JVR
Carter - Richards - Carcillo
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Powe - Betts/holmstrom - Shelley

I don't really see whats wrong with this. It's not like Richards and Carter and going to need a superstar winger to play with them.
they both want to dictate the play. as much as they are similar players they have very different styles. richie excels when hes reading and reacting while carter does better with posession.

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they both want to dictate the play. as much as they are similar players they have very different styles. richie excels when hes reading and reacting while carter does better with posession.
I believe that was down to richie's linemates last season. Gagne was never fully fit, carcillo was a trainwreck. Richie in the olympics looks very comfortable as a secondary scorer on his line. He worked very well with Toews and has played well with Rick Nash before. He also plays well on the PP with carter strangely. I have a feeling Giroux is really going to explode this year. He's already developed chemistry playing with Zherdev in preseason

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09-30-2010, 12:29 PM
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RT @DNFlyers: The cut on Guerin's elbow is infected and he has a 'bursa sac' type of thing. He will not play tomorrow night. Hopeful for Sunday.

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09-30-2010, 12:40 PM
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RT @DNFlyers: The cut on Guerin's elbow is infected and he has a 'bursa sac' type of thing. He will not play tomorrow night. Hopeful for Sunday.
how does a cut get infected that fast when you have medical staff? Did no one put any neo sporin on it? Ba na na na na! Neo! Ba na na na na na na! Sporin!

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RT @DNFlyers: The cut on Guerin's elbow is infected and he has a 'bursa sac' type of thing. He will not play tomorrow night. Hopeful for Sunday.
Maybe it's a sign?

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09-30-2010, 12:44 PM
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Maybe it's a sign?
Oh, great. Another LTIR.

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Maybe it's a sign?
Divine intervention; the hockey gods want Guerin not to be on the team

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09-30-2010, 12:53 PM
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if we can get him on the roster, why not?

Hartnell Richards carter
Zherdev Giroux JVR
Guerin Briere Leino
Carcillo Betts Shelley

STACKED.

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Divine intervention; the hockey gods want Guerin not to be on the team
Pretty much.. Retire or else our medical staff will infect something else?

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if we can get him on the roster, why not?

Hartnell Richards carter
Zherdev Giroux JVR
Guerin Briere Leino
Carcillo Betts Shelley

STACKED.
because he's done

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Even if they have to amputate, we'll sign him. Its all about that vetern presence.least is will cut down on his penalties.


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Even if they have to amputate, we'll sign him. Its all about that vetern presence.least is will cut down on his penalties.
we have enough veteran presence

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we have enough veteran presence
Pronger, Timonen, Betts, Lappy if he plays again, O'Donnell, Briere, Shelley (for whatever the **** that's worth) and even Boucher. It's a shame Gagne is gone though.

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RT @DNFlyers: The cut on Guerin's elbow is infected and he has a 'bursa sac' type of thing. He will not play tomorrow night. Hopeful for Sunday.
For some reason 'bursa sac' made me giggle.

Anyways, yay.

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I was trying to be facetious.

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