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10-01-2010, 02:39 PM
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My guess is that he's still here for two reasons.

1.) Because of his training camp injuries, he hasn't gotten enough ice time for the coaches to evaluate him so far

2.) They'd rather keep a vet as the 7th defenseman who doesn't play a lot, instead of keeping someone like Valentenko or Sauer up

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10-01-2010, 02:43 PM
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top 6 really.....is that really flattering for a dman?

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10-01-2010, 02:47 PM
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First of all, you blasted my rankings and the only thing you point out is that the B+ should be a B?...
Secondly, it's not about our division, it's about the league.
Thirdly, who does Crosby even play with? Sure, Crosby alone makes his line good but I'm not talking about just one player...

Gaborik/Frolov are Elite/Great players respectively.


Regardless, your only point of change is the top line from a B+ to a B? That's like nothing.
Unbunch your panties. I only took one line as an example. I'm not going to sit here and rank the entire team an A when the fact of the matter is we aren't an A team or have A lines. I took the Atlantic division as an example b/c that's where we are situated last time I checked. If you want to use the entire league that's even more against you and your grades. I don't know why you got so defensive, but just so you quit your hissy fit I will grade everything.

Frolov-Prospal-Gaborik: B ; Frolov is a good player but has proven to be erratic with his play at times. Prospal is an aging vet who hasn't produced at consistent rates season in/out & is facing injuries. Prospal also is not an established 1c, not even close. Gaborik is the elite talent.

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan : B - ; Dubinsky as of yet has not cracked 50 pts. However, he was on pace but the fact remains he has not cracked the 50 mark. Anisimov is a sophmore coming off a whopping 38 points, history does suggest he will improve his totals. His camp also suggests a better season. Callahan is a 3rd liner on a stanley cup champion team, at best he's a 20-20 guy. Maybe 25-20.

Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko C+ ; A lot of question marks. Will Avery find his game, will Fedotenko find his game? You also have a rookie centering the line; how will he fare in a 82 game schedule.

4th Line: B ; Alot depends whether or not Boyle has found something.

D1: Staal-Girardi A-
D2: Rozsival-Del Zotto A-
D3: ??

Goalie: A+

These rankings are based on our talent compared to other teams in the league. Yours I think are based on wishful thinking.

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10-01-2010, 02:49 PM
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Ranger game notes

Defense

Staal
MDZ
Girardi
Eminger
McDonagh
Gilroy

Prust
Gaborik
Avery
Dubinsky
Fedotenko
Boyle
Callahan
Christensen
Frolov
AA
Stepan
Boogaard

Rangers dressing their A team tonight except for Rozsival who can't go. Where is Vinny?

http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=DL|NYR|home

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10-01-2010, 02:55 PM
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White,Kennedy and Prospal scratches. Drury out with the broken finger.

Sauer and Valentenko.

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10-01-2010, 02:56 PM
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Defense

Staal
MDZ
Girardi
Eminger
McDonagh
Gilroy

Prust
Gaborik
Avery
Dubinsky
Fedotenko
Boyle
Callahan
Christensen
Frolov
AA
Stepan
Boogaard

Rangers dressing their A team tonight except for Rozsival who can't go. Where is Vinny?

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I'd assume hes being shopped, but thats just my speculation.

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10-01-2010, 02:58 PM
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10-01-2010, 03:02 PM
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I'd assume hes being shopped, but thats just my speculation.
Vinny has been battling some soreness(not sure if that is the proper word)in his surgically repaired knee. Indications were he was going to play or the Rangers and Vinny hoped to play in both games.

Hopefully he can play tomorrow night.

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10-01-2010, 03:15 PM
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what the hell? so when is the game postponed to?

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10-01-2010, 03:20 PM
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what the hell? so when is the game postponed to?
They left this morning, the games still on.

Atleast I hope .

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10-01-2010, 03:22 PM
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They left this morning, the games still on.

Atleast I hope .
Ruutu was in the Apple store this afternoon, so no worries, the game is on.

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10-01-2010, 03:29 PM
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Ya, that delay was yesterday...the weather today is FINE, game on, relax.

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10-01-2010, 03:35 PM
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Vinny has been battling some soreness(not sure if that is the proper word)in his surgically repaired knee. Indications were he was going to play or the Rangers and Vinny hoped to play in both games.

Hopefully he can play tomorrow night.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Prospal has been a favourite player of mine since I was young, so I'd like to keep him around. Let's hope he gets back to where he needs to be, to be on the ice in games soon.

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10-01-2010, 03:38 PM
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Prospal sure hasn't been earning his roster spot lately!

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Should be a good game tonight with two mostly NHL line ups. Butler, Wiercioch and Cowen are the prospects to look out for if you like that kind of stuff. I expect Wiercioch to play the best out of the three. Excited to see how some of your newer guys play too.

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10-01-2010, 04:11 PM
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Prospal's been scratched, won't play today or tomorrow.




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Prospal (knee) pulled from lineup, Christensen in. He's seen doc, Tortorella called it a concern

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10-01-2010, 04:16 PM
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Prospal's been scratched, won't play today or tomorrow.




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Prospal (knee) pulled from lineup, Christensen in. He's seen doc, Tortorella called it a concern
should mean stepan making opening night a no brainer now

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10-01-2010, 04:16 PM
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So if Prospal AND Drury are out to start the season does that change the way Torts makes cuts?

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10-01-2010, 04:23 PM
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So if Prospal AND Drury are out to start the season does that change the way Torts makes cuts?
um yes.

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Rozsival's out tomorrow too.

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um yes.
Even though he has already stated he wants to have a 23 man roster(2 extra forwards already on the roster)? To me it would seem silly to carry 2 players all year and then when there is an injury or two to bring someone up from the minors.

To me I would just think a player like Kennedy and White/Fedotenko probably will get more games at the beginning of the season.

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Unbunch your panties. I only took one line as an example. I'm not going to sit here and rank the entire team an A when the fact of the matter is we aren't an A team or have A lines. I took the Atlantic division as an example b/c that's where we are situated last time I checked. If you want to use the entire league that's even more against you and your grades. I don't know why you got so defensive, but just so you quit your hissy fit I will grade everything.

Frolov-Prospal-Gaborik: B ; Frolov is a good player but has proven to be erratic with his play at times. Prospal is an aging vet who hasn't produced at consistent rates season in/out & is facing injuries. Prospal also is not an established 1c, not even close. Gaborik is the elite talent.

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan : B - ; Dubinsky as of yet has not cracked 50 pts. However, he was on pace but the fact remains he has not cracked the 50 mark. Anisimov is a sophmore coming off a whopping 38 points, history does suggest he will improve his totals. His camp also suggests a better season. Callahan is a 3rd liner on a stanley cup champion team, at best he's a 20-20 guy. Maybe 25-20.

Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko C+ ; A lot of question marks. Will Avery find his game, will Fedotenko find his game? You also have a rookie centering the line; how will he fare in a 82 game schedule.

4th Line: B ; Alot depends whether or not Boyle has found something.

D1: Staal-Girardi A-
D2: Rozsival-Del Zotto A-
D3: ??

Goalie: A+

These rankings are based on our talent compared to other teams in the league. Yours I think are based on wishful thinking.
He was wrong and didn't even realize you said "For example". Instead of shouting him into a corner which is an all too common sight on these boards you answered his question logically. Awesome job and your forward line ranks were pretty spot on. But I can't believ how high you ranked the D pairs. Staal and Girardi I mean Staal is Staal but I'm not sure if that line is A-. I guess it's close but is Girardi that good?

Then the Roszi DZ A- shocked me. I love DZ but that D inefficiency combined with DZ;s youth makes me think C+. Can't argue with your forward ranks at all. Were you just keeping his D ranks? Maybe I misread it then.


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He was wrong and didn't even realize you said "For example". But I can't believ how high you ranked the D pairs. Staal and Girardi I mean Staal is Staal but I'm not sure if that line is A-. I guess it's close but is Girardi that good?

Then the Roszi DZ A- shocked me. I love DZ but that D inefficiency combined with DZ;s youth makes me think C+. Can't argue with your forward ranks at all.
If we're going to pair Rosy and DZ together then oh boy .

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i loved that kennedy took a cheap contract to be a healthy scratch. he should play over boogaard. no reason to have both boogaard and prust in the lineup.

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If we're going to pair Rosy and DZ together then oh boy .
Yea that's what I was thinking. Roszi has looked very bad to me this preseason I pray it doesn't carry into the season. He'll be Redden 2.0 haha. B/c there can only be one Redden 1.0 and he's gone now. He's gone now... (the words "Free agency 2012: Cap space available" pop into my head)

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