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10-02-2010, 01:34 AM
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Hodgson is going to be sent down to start the season with the moose.

The encouraging thing about all this is that he's looking faster every game he plays in. So if conditioning really is the issue that is holding him back he may be called up sooner than later.

If not then he'll need to work on his balance and strength. He's a little weak on the puck at times.

I wonder if he'll be sent down tomorrow or they take their time with the decision and let him get into better conditioning over the next week. Regular season doesn't start 1 weeks from now so maybe Gillis wants the canuck trainers and medical staff working with him the extra week?

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10-02-2010, 01:37 AM
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My guess is that prospect or young center currently in league will come from movement of assets like the extra D or even one of the goalies at year's end if things progress well in that area too.
Right, if one of our young goalies can lead us to the third round by playing lights out hockey we might be able to trade him for a good C prospect...

Odds of that happening? very very tiny. No matter how well Schneider plays in his back-up role this year he won't have much value at all.

With Salo, Bieksa, Alberts, Ehrhoff, and SOB all in the last year of their contracts I don't see how we'll have extra at the end of the season.

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10-02-2010, 01:42 AM
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Right, if one of our young goalies can lead us to the third round by playing lights out hockey we might be able to trade him for a good C prospect...

Odds of that happening? very very tiny. No matter how well Schneider plays in his back-up role this year he won't have much value at all.

With Salo, Bieksa, Alberts, Ehrhoff, and SOB all in the last year of their contracts I don't see how we'll have extra at the end of the season.
Have faith sparky, have faith.

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10-02-2010, 01:45 AM
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Right, if one of our young goalies can lead us to the third round by playing lights out hockey we might be able to trade him for a good C prospect...

Odds of that happening? very very tiny. No matter how well Schneider plays in his back-up role this year he won't have much value at all.

With Salo, Bieksa, Alberts, Ehrhoff, and SOB all in the last year of their contracts I don't see how we'll have extra at the end of the season.
Umm, which of those D men listed are going to be able to get raises?

Salo? Retired, and if not, definitely no raise.

Bieksa? God help us all if he's still on this team or another team offers him more than 2M.

SOB? Does not deserve a raise.

Alberts? Is making around the median for a #5/6 kinda guy already.

Erhoff is the only guy who should be getting about a 1.5M raise and this money will come from Salo's contract coming off the books. We can solidify the 5-7 spots as neccesary, but we'd have our top 4 locked up.

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10-02-2010, 01:47 AM
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Have faith sparky, have faith.
Faith in what? I just don't see how we'll have any extra d-men with value and based on the history of hockey young goalies don't get traded for anything of value.

The guys on our team who can bring back a really good prospect or young NHL C are guys we need.


Also, how's Perrault doing? still building him up?

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10-02-2010, 01:51 AM
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Umm, which of those D men listed are going to be able to get raises?

Salo? Retired, and if not, definitely no raise.

Bieksa? God help us all if he's still on this team or another team offers him more than 2M.

SOB? Does not deserve a raise.

Alberts? Is making around the median for a #5/6 kinda guy already.

Erhoff is the only guy who should be getting about a 1.5M raise and this money will come from Salo's contract coming off the books. We can solidify the 5-7 spots as neccesary, but we'd have our top 4 locked up.
Which of those guys are tradeable assets that can return a young NHL level C?

Salo? no, SOB? no, Alberts? no, Ehrhoff we're either keeping or he leaves as a UFA, Bieksa may get a return now but at the end of the year he'll be staying or leaving as a UFA.

Point is we won't have an extra D to trade at the end of the year unless it's a top 4 guy, which we need.

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10-02-2010, 01:52 AM
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Which of those guys are tradeable assets that can return a young NHL level C?

Salo? no, SOB? no, Alberts? no, Ehrhoff we're either keeping or he leaves as a UFA, Bieksa may get a return now but at the end of the year he'll be staying or leaving as a UFA.

Point is we won't have an extra D to trade at the end of the year unless it's a top 4 guy, which we need.
Since when is our most pressing need a young NHL level C?

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10-02-2010, 01:53 AM
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Since when is our most pressing need a young NHL level C?
I never said it was I was responding to a post. Maybe you shoudl read back and educate yourself before you inject your pointless dribble into the thread.

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10-02-2010, 01:56 AM
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I never said it was I was responding to a post. Maybe you shoudl read back and educate yourself before you inject your pointless dribble into the thread.
Yes, an all you listed were our UFA D-man, as if they are the only players that could be traded for this young NHL level C that has been referenced earlier in the thread, although the young C they are talking about is a prospect that projects as a top 9 or top 6 centre, which can definitely be acquired by trading one of those UFA dmen for a top 90 pick in an upcoming draft.

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10-02-2010, 04:28 AM
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I never said it was I was responding to a post. Maybe you shoudl read back and educate yourself before you inject your pointless dribble into the thread.
It's drivel, but rage on!

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10-02-2010, 04:52 AM
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It's drivel, but rage on!
Well, considering he's probably frothing at the mouth, dribble was probably just a freudian slip.

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10-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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I hope he starts in the minors this season. The guy needs at least a year developing there before he makes the jump. No need to rush him, this team is already solid in terms of its top six.

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10-02-2010, 02:06 PM
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So has Hodgson been sent down yet? I don't see him on either the Canucks roster or the Moose roster...

I don't see Oreskovich either...

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10-02-2010, 02:09 PM
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So has Hodgson been sent down yet? I don't see him on either the Canucks roster or the Moose roster...

I don't see Oreskovich either...
It's been like that for awhile.

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10-02-2010, 03:22 PM
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So has Hodgson been sent down yet? I don't see him on either the Canucks roster or the Moose roster...

I don't see Oreskovich either...
So we stick him back in the O? There is just too many things wrong with that.

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10-02-2010, 04:12 PM
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Right, if one of our young goalies can lead us to the third round by playing lights out hockey we might be able to trade him for a good C prospect...

Odds of that happening? very very tiny. No matter how well Schneider plays in his back-up role this year he won't have much value at all.

With Salo, Bieksa, Alberts, Ehrhoff, and SOB all in the last year of their contracts I don't see how we'll have extra at the end of the season.
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Have faith sparky, have faith.
At this point, anyone who doesn't have faith in Gillis' ability to fill whatever need that Canucks have is just being a contrarian.

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10-02-2010, 04:15 PM
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hes going to make the team

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10-02-2010, 04:32 PM
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At this point, anyone who doesn't have faith in Gillis' ability to fill whatever need that Canucks have is just being a contrarian.
At this point, anyone who doesn't wait to see what the team does in the playoffs is cliff-jumping to conclusions.

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10-02-2010, 04:42 PM
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hes going to make the team

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That's the spirit!

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when are they going to tell us the cuts!!!

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I think there is zero chance CoHo has made the team.

He was pretty much invisible in the games he played and he is recovering from a long term injury. Time in the AHL playing big minutes will do him a world of good.

People always look at this stuff the wrong way. Good young players if they are good enough to tear up the AHL will be in the NHL ASAP. CoHo will have to prove he can do it.

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when are they going to tell us the cuts!!!
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10-02-2010, 05:29 PM
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I think there is zero chance CoHo has made the team.

He was pretty much invisible in the games he played and he is recovering from a long term injury. Time in the AHL playing big minutes will do him a world of good.

People always look at this stuff the wrong way. Good young players if they are good enough to tear up the AHL will be in the NHL ASAP. CoHo will have to prove he can do it.
I don't know about zero...

Again, I'd point to Kesler in 03/04. His defensive game was at an NHL level so he was given that experience which ultimately was beneficial for his career, playing 28 games in the NHL. Of course, Kesler also spent 04/05 in the AHL due to the lockout, which was beneficial as well.

I think Hodgson could make the team as a checker. But is it more beneficial getting 8-10 minutes a night in the top league in the world, or getting 20+ minutes a night at a lower level? That is the decision facing the Canucks.

I don't think it would hurt himself or the team if he started with the big club. But does him dressing give them the best chance to win each night right away? Or are they better served with someone like Tambellini?

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10-02-2010, 05:29 PM
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At this point, anyone who doesn't have faith in Gillis' ability to fill whatever need that Canucks have is just being a contrarian.
Well we just gave away one of those ''extra'' d-men we could trade.

We no longer have extra d-men. In fact we have average depth back there.

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10-02-2010, 05:32 PM
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He needs time on the farm. Honestly, that's the best thing for his development. Noel will use him in an offensive role and teach him how to play better defense. On the Canucks, he'll primarily be used as a checker, and that doesn't help him develop his offense.

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