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10-03-2010, 10:23 AM
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23 year old former 1st round picks still have to earn their roster spots.

Lol @ some of the posts in this thread. "I HOPE ME TEAM CLAIMZ HIM!!!!!1" If he couldn't get a roster spot on a team like Florida, why would he on any other team?
Some teams probably think he can fit in and I'm sure there are teams he can fit on better than Florida.

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10-03-2010, 10:24 AM
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Just don't get it. Why not waive Olesz. No1 would picked him up
Because, believe it or not, he played _much_ better than Grabner in every game.

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That's a game you can play if you're a contender, or if that former 1st round pick is waiver exempt. Florida is simply not in a position to do this, imo.

Again, I understand the sentiment, but not in the current situation the Panthers are in. That's not how you manage assets as a rebuilding team.

Whatever, I'm just glad the Philly organization isn't run the same way.
Eh, what can you do? The guy just isn't NHL ready yet.

That said, a team like the Islanders would be hard pressed not to put a claim in. Snow took a chance on Schremp who's useless for anything other than the PP and shootout. Grabner would go good with the youth the Isles have going now.

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10-03-2010, 10:25 AM
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What are you writing here? Grabners 2-way game has improved significantly within the last years. He was playing some good hockey in Vancouver last year before the injury. He needs to work on his consistency but the potential is there.
The reason he hardly got any ice in the playoffs last year was because he was a huge liability defensively.

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10-03-2010, 10:26 AM
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Paajarvi - Gagner - Hemsky
Hall - Horcoff - Eberle
Penner - Brule - Grabner
Reddox - Fraser - Stortini
Cogliano - MacIntyre


Would certainly be entertaining!


RW is arguably the weakest position in the Oilers system. Grabner would allow Omark some time in the minors. If he sticks, the Oilers can trade Cogliano.

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10-03-2010, 10:27 AM
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Take a look at Florida's roster. They are gonna lose alot of games anyway. They are REBUILDING.


Look at the roster. They aren't winning ****, with or without Michael Grabner. It's not smart asset management, no matter how you slice it.
yet they say our top 6 is worse than theirs...i dont get it.

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10-03-2010, 10:28 AM
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I can not believe this.

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Eh, what can you do? The guy just isn't NHL ready yet.
Yea, I'm not arguing that, and in a perfect world, you could just send the guy down with no threat of someone claiming him. I mean, did their scouts not realize he wasn't NHL ready when they made the trade? Apparently not, and if so, they should have replaced Grabner in that deal with a draft pick.


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That said, a team like the Islanders would be hard pressed not to put a claim in. Snow took a chance on Schremp who's useless for anything other than the PP and shootout. Grabner would go good with the youth the Isles have going now.
Well, he may or may not get claimed. I would think there are teams out there willing to take a chance (rebuilding teams like the Isles), but who knows? It's just weird asset management in my opinion, but I'm not a Panthers fan, so I don't have to worry about the consequences.

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That's a game you can play if you're a contender, or if that former 1st round pick is waiver exempt. Florida is simply not in a position to do this, imo.

Again, I understand the sentiment, but not in the current situation the Panthers are in. That's not how you manage assets as a rebuilding team.

Whatever, I'm just glad the Philly organization isn't run the same way.
Sorry, you can't play like that in October. Every team has a shot at the playoffs, and if Grabner is that bad, he shouldn't be playing, nor will he ever improve if he sits on the bench.

This isn't so much a case of bad asset management as a case of a player not living up to expectations.

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yet they say our top 6 is worse than theirs...i dont get it.
What's to get. A player that couldn't make their team is coveted by your fanbase. That's pretty much a perfect example why there forward group is better then yours.

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10-03-2010, 10:33 AM
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Why didn't they send him down when they had the chance, before the waiver period?
It doesn't work like that. You can't send down a waiver eligible player before the waiver period begins (which was September 25th this year). Grabner is a 3 year pro, hence he is waiver eligible.

Pittsburgh should be all over this.

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What's to get. A player that couldn't make their team is coveted by your fanbase. That's pretty much a perfect example why there forward group is better then yours.
hmm let me get this straight, you are saying

kessel-bozak-versteeg =/< booth-weiss-frolik?
kulemin-grabovski-macarthur =/< dvorak-mattias-stillman?

you know what im bamboozled im going to sleep good night folks.

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Sorry, you can't play like that in October. Every team has a shot at the playoffs, and if Grabner is that bad, he shouldn't be playing, nor will he ever improve if he sits on the bench.
GM's are paid to make the decision on whether or not their team is a true playoff contender, October or not, and act accordingly.

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This isn't so much a case of bad asset management as a case of a player not living up to expectations.
No, its both. The player is obviously not living up to expectations at the moment. But, that doesn't mean you potentially throw away that asset for nothing. It's moves like this that have the Panthers sitting outside of the playoffs year after year.

Olesz hasn't lived up to expectations either and is greatly overpaid. Why not waive him?

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10-03-2010, 10:36 AM
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GM's are paid to make the decision on whether or not their team is a true playoff contender, October or not, and act accordingly.


No, its both. The player is obviously not living up to expectations at the moment. But, that doesn't mean you potentially throw away that asset for nothing. It's moves like this that have the Panthers sitting outside of the playoffs year after year.

Olesz hasn't lived up to expectations either and is greatly overpaid. Why not waive him?
Because he's played significantly better in preseason and had, you know, more than one scoring chance in 5 games. Something Grabner can't claim.

Also, LOL at this thread.

"Grabner was waived"

"**** THE LEAFS SUCK"

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I'd dump PA Parrentau for him in a heart beat.

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hmm let me get this straight, you are saying

kessel-bozak-versteeg =/< booth-weiss-frolik?
kulemin-grabovski-macarthur =/< dvorak-mattias-stillman?

you know what im bamboozled im going to sleep good night folks.
Not like it makes a huge difference, but Higgins is a shoe-in on the 2nd line LW.

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Because he's played significantly better in preseason and had, you know, more than one scoring chance in 5 games. Something Grabner can't claim.

Also, LOL at this thread.

"Grabner was waived"

"**** THE LEAFS SUCK"
another great day to be a leaf fan hahah

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Because he's played significantly better in preseason and had, you know, more than one scoring chance in 5 games. Something Grabner can't claim.
Olesz has sucked since he's been in the NHL. Great, he's been significantly better than Grabner in the preseason, what an accomplishment. He should be better, because he's significantly overpaid.

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.... Why? What were they thinking? I have no clue why on earth they would waive this kid. What is the backstory on this?

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What's to get. A player that couldn't make their team is coveted by your fanbase. That's pretty much a perfect example why there forward group is better then yours.
So, now 1-2 posters represent the entire fanbase? LeafRocket has admitted that he is a huge fan of Grabner. But, objectively, he's not better than anyone in our Top 6, but we may have an extra forward spot to work with seeing as they'll likely send Caputi down.

He's an interesting player, but I'm not sure we have the room to keep him, so I doubt they would.

My guess is Burke is looking for a two way centre on waivers, not another soft winger.

For Leafs fans wondering, they have 2 contracts left under the 50 man limit. But, I doubt they'd waive Mitchell. They need a versatile player as their extra forward and Mitchell can play anywhere.

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Well this makes one thing certain...panthers are definitely tanking for larsson lol

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**** it, Garth: Pick him up, throw him shotgun with JT and Moulson for a few games. See what happens.

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What's to get. A player that couldn't make their team is coveted by your fanbase. That's pretty much a perfect example why there forward group is better then yours.
The guy has looked lousy in all his preseasons with Vancouver but despite this he came up midway through the season and showed some promise; so based on those four preseason maybe the guy finds it difficult to play his best in meaningless preseason games? In any case I think a team hurting for skill will take a shot on him.

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Wow that's hard to believe they didn't even give him a shot? So the trade ends up being a first round pick and Bernier for Ballard?
no, it ends up being what it was and they didnt like one of the players immediately.

dont try to over simplify something that was already simple

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