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10-04-2010, 12:58 PM
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Pitt fans seem OK losing him...

I believe the exact words were "Humpf... you can have him"

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Hate this soon-to-be-the-next Lisin, but he'll still have more points than Drury.
How is he even remotely comparable to Lisin? Lisin was a project who might as well have been a prospect. His games relied upon his speed and finesse moves. Fedotenko is a 32 year old who has established himself in the NHL for a decade now, has no particularly great individual abilities but is an all-around solid 2-way forward. He's never scored less than 11 goals in a season, and has never played less than 65 games.

You almost couldn't have picked a more opposite player to compare to Fedotenko.


As for the signing, I love it. He's not going to blow anyone away with his play, but he's somebody that is very versatile, can be relied upon to play on any line, and is going to work hard. Basically, you know what you're going to get with Fedotenko, and some stability is something this team could definitely use considering the significant number of players on this team who are not established and consistent NHLers yet.

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10-04-2010, 01:01 PM
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It's well deserved with the way he played this preseason. I'm happy with this and hope he keeps it up.

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10-04-2010, 01:03 PM
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Wow, we were totally having the same conversations about VP a year ago...lol

Feds and AA looked good together IMO. The signing is good to me just to help mentor and develop the youngster.
Specifically you and me? I wouldn't be surprised. I don't exactly make it a secret I'm a Tampa Bay fan, and I'm quick to defend players from back when they won the Stanley Cup. Prospal and Fedotenko were 2 specific players I had as favorites. I find it so weird Torts, Prospal, and now Fedotenko are all on my favorite team.

EDIT: And I was right, wasn't I? The Prospal signing went well and here he is in Year 2.


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So what explains last year, considering elite talent on a Pens' team around him... cup hangover?
Players have off years. It happens. Fedotenko looked out of shape last year, too. His skating looked really bad, and just seemed out of place most of the time. In camp, his speed looked like it improved from last year. He could have just had some old age working on him, and now he's training harder to keep up with the speed of the game. Skating is one of the most easily improved traits for a hockey player, and also a very important one.

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10-04-2010, 01:04 PM
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One year @ One Mill.............terrrrrrrriifffficcc signing

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10-04-2010, 01:05 PM
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Great youth movement so Far ! First Emminger and now Tank. WOW Torts did it again with the talking out of both sides of his mouth. Weise MZA and the defensemen all should be here b4 this drub,.
Weise and MZA would be if they weren't invisible in camp. How can you compare their preseason performance to Tanks? Seriously? Eminger is a bum and doesn't deserve his spot. The only argument you can make is that McD and Vtank will get top minutes in Hartford while Eminger sits in the press box and pushes Gilroy and Sauer to not be content with their roster spots. A rookie doesn't belong in the press box.

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10-04-2010, 01:08 PM
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10-04-2010, 01:09 PM
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Hate this soon-to-be-the-next Lisin, but he'll still have more points than Drury.


perhaps the silliest post of the year. although i have to agree on the drury part.

good for ftank. dude went out and earned a contract.

great deal for a decent player who played pretty well in preseason.

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10-04-2010, 01:13 PM
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Nothing wrong with this deal. One year at $1 million. He can be waived if he doesn't perform. He came in on a tryout and out performed just about everybody. He deserved it. I just hope he continues he strong play into the season.

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10-04-2010, 01:14 PM
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Not bad. Hopefully he puts up 20+ goals

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Been waiting for this for about 6 or 7 years now.
Seriously?

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I was actually rooting against him when we first brought him in, but the dude looked good. I'm happy for him, and hope that he can carry that solid play into the regular season.
Same.

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10-04-2010, 01:26 PM
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Stepan and Sauer don't count? How many rookies do you want to be happy?

You don't want to have more than 2 rookies per year, 3 max. Step plus one rookie is fine, plus after the All-Star break they can bring a third guy once these two are somewhat experienced.

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10-04-2010, 01:27 PM
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Why would we regret it though? Would it be so hard to get rid of him if he doesn't play well? And even if we don't, he's making only a million bucks (relatively speaking of course)

I'm actually not really a fan of his, but he proved himself in the preseason. I think he was leading scorer
It's not the contract or the issue of ridding ourselves of him.

For me it's more wasted time. We've got tons of players in the wings here and if he plays like he did last year then every minute of ice time given to him is a minute that's wasted.

For an organization that claims so adamantly they have a plan, this move doesn't make sense, especially seeing as it's based on 6 pre-season games.

He proved himself in the pre-season? I agree he looked good. Gilroy looked good last pre-season. Where did that end up?

Some people put way too much stock in these exhibition games.



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Ugh, I hope he doesn't sputter out like he did last year. He was god-awful in Pittsburgh last year.

Still, $1MM to bolster the 3rd line when we're already filled with bottom-six players? Makes little sense to me. Rather see Kennedy in that role.

Exactly. I can understand people who don't want to rush young players along, but someone like Kennedy doesn't fit that mold.

It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense long term for this franchise, which IMO should be the number 1 priority of everyone involved with it.

If he plays like he has in the six pre-season games then great. He's a welcomed addition.

If he reverts to last years form, well, then it was a waste of time of money. Even if in the grand scheme of things it's not all that big of a deal.

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10-04-2010, 01:30 PM
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Nothings guaranteed of course, but the fact that he had a solid camp and he's got mutual understanding with Torts indicates to me he wants to prove himself.

He made the team outright. The deal is fair. Now let him prove he belongs.

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10-04-2010, 01:34 PM
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So what explains last year, considering elite talent on a Pens' team around him... cup hangover?
How about "bad year" for explanation? Not all Euros are enigmatic. The guy has 2(two) SC rings. I'm not a big fan of "workhorses", but you cannot have a balanced team w/o them.


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I was actually rooting against him when we first brought him in, but the dude looked good. I'm happy for him, and hope that he can carry that solid play into the regular season.
Same here. I'm surprised, but he earned it.

He's looked great, hungry and hes well aquainted with Torts style. He also has a couple of rings which is very important should this young team ever get into the playoffs.

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Feds is a stop gap to give our younger players more time to develop and mature.

On top of that, he played well in camp and preseason; he earned a spot on this team. The majority of this board questioned this move when it was made a couple weeks ago. I was not for or against it, just figured I'd play it by ear and not get upset about blocking young prospects. Because like i said then, if Feds shows that he deserves to be here then thats what should be the end result and it was. We signed him to a cheap contract. Low risk/high reward.

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10-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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Nothings guaranteed of course, but the fact that he had a solid camp and he's got mutual understanding with Torts indicates to me he wants to prove himself.

He made the team outright. The deal is fair. Now let him prove he belongs.
Do we all need to be reminded about why he was here in the first place?

He did have a solid camp, but this is a guy who was playing to keep his NHL career alive.

Let's see it for what it was. If he did anything at ALL last year, he wouldn't have been in this situation.


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How about "bad year" for explanation? Not all Euros are enigmatic. The guy has 2(two) SC rings. I'm not a big fan of "workhorses", but you cannot have a balanced team w/o them.

I think the issue is that it was a very strange situation for him to have a "bad" year. It actually equates to an awful, awful year when you look at it. And that's where the red flags go up.

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I didn't want him signed, but after his pre-season play you'd be silly to say he didn't deserve it. Especially with Prospal out, i'm okay with the contract and especially terms.

Hopefully he continues to work to impress Torts- maybe he'll pull a Prospal and be one of the better players on our team. Also it seems like he's a good veteran presence for our younger dudes.

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10-04-2010, 01:55 PM
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Feds is a stop gap to give our younger players more time to develop and mature.

On top of that, he played well in camp and preseason; he earned a spot on this team. The majority of this board questioned this move when it was made a couple weeks ago. I was not for or against it, just figured I'd play it by ear and not get upset about blocking young prospects. Because like i said then, if Feds shows that he deserves to be here then thats what should be the end result and it was. We signed him to a cheap contract. Low risk/high reward.
What exactly is high reward?

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Are you trying to tell me you'd rather have Ruslan Fedotenko for those number instead of letting someone like Kennedy or Weise or Grachev or MZA play?

Yes, I understand MZA needs to adjust to the NA style/rink. Yes I understand Grachev is only 20 and still does not appear ready.

But hell, I'd rather them in the lineup every night over Fedotenko if we're talking about him only scoring 30 points.

Hell, Kennedy had 26 last year.

I just don't see the point of this.

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Hate this soon-to-be-the-next Lisin, but he'll still have more points than Drury.
Huh?

Lisin was a borderline NHL player. Dont do a disservice to Fedotenko by comparing the two.

Fedotenko might not be a super player but hes a solid player who knows the system Torts wants to play and actually has the mind to read the game correctly. Fedotenko is a gamer too. Dont discount that. Its a quality for any team, the more you have the better come playoff time.

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