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10-04-2010, 05:50 PM
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Didnt see this anywhere but:



So that means Nodl made the team. Either him or Carcillo will be the extras. You know, I always hated on Nodl BUT I think I'd be fine with him on a line with Giroux and Zherdev. Let Carcillo be the extra.
No mention of Maroon?

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10-04-2010, 05:52 PM
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No mention of Maroon?
He was already sent down. The people who played yesterday were technically already in the AHL. Like Legein played and such.

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10-04-2010, 06:17 PM
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I changed the subject line to fit with the other roster moves.

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vanRiemsdyk - Richards - Carter
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Nodl - Giroux - Zherdev
Carcillo - Betts - Powe
Shelley

That's my guess at the lineup going into Pittsburgh.

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10-04-2010, 06:41 PM
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Watch Carcillo getting under control and start playing like he did last season.
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vanRiemsdyk - Richards - Carter
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Nodl - Giroux - Zherdev
Carcillo - Betts - Powe
Shelley

That's my guess at the lineup going into Pittsburgh.
Yeah, that's my feeling too. I wish Zherdev would be on that top line instead of Carter. My Ideal would be this:

JVR-Richards-Zherdev
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Nodl-Carter-Giroux
Carcillo-Betts-Powe

Oh well. Can't really complain.

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10-04-2010, 06:48 PM
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Yeah, that's my feeling too. I wish Zherdev would be on that top line instead of Carter. My Ideal would be this:

JVR-Richards-Zherdev
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Nodl-Carter-Giroux
Carcillo-Betts-Powe

Oh well. Can't really complain.
Zherdev and Giroux seem to have huge potential so it is sad that it may well be the case that they are rarely on the ice together outside of the PP. Nodl deserves to be nowhere near Giroux. They shouldn't even be allowed to communicate with each other or appear at the same team functions.

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10-04-2010, 06:51 PM
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Zherdev and Giroux seem to have huge potential so it is sad that it may well be the case that they are rarely on the ice together outside of the PP. Nodl deserves to be nowhere near Giroux. They shouldn't even be allowed to communicate with each other or appear at the same team functions.
It is what it is.

You should know they're not going to waste Nodl as the 13th, otherwise they would've brought up Kalinski.

He will definitely be in the game, and I assume it will be top 9.

I'd rather have Maroon because I think he brings the most to the table, but I'm happy with Laviolette's decision.

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Lines I wouldn't mind seeing experimented with...

JVR - Richie - Carter
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Carcillo - Giroux - Zherdev
Shelley - Betts - Powe

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Jody will be in the opening night lineup

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I hope Nodl is just used as a forechecker on the 4th line. His board play is good. I dont want him on a scoring line right now though. At least Carcillo or Powe could bang some bodies

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Zherdev and Giroux seem to have huge potential so it is sad that it may well be the case that they are rarely on the ice together outside of the PP.
Here is a way to do that without altering the center roles:

Zherdev-Richards-Giroux
JVR-Carter-Carcillo
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Shelley-Betts-Powe
Nodl

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vanRiemsdyk - Richards - Carter
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Nodl - Giroux - Zherdev
Carcillo - Betts - Powe
Shelley

That's my guess at the lineup going into Pittsburgh.
Do you think that Nodl can do well under Giroux and Zherdev? Or do you think he's more of a player that can help open up some ice for both Giroux and Zherdev to do better?

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I thought Betts was out?

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Do you think that Nodl can do well under Giroux and Zherdev? Or do you think he's more of a player that can help open up some ice for both Giroux and Zherdev to do better?
Well, offensively I consider Nodl pretty much deadweight even compared to Powe and Carcillo. He will not generate offense on his own, but the one thing that he will be able to do is play a much stronger boardgame than the other two. Boardgame is possession game. If you keep Giroux and Zherdev together in the offensive zone, and the more opportunities you give those two, they're going to create something. That's how talented they are.

Will Nodl open up space as much as Carcillo or Powe? Not likely. He's not going to be drawing attention to himself like they can, but he will be physical. So yes, it is a little space in the end, and even though that's fairly close to the amount of space the other two can open up, it's not as much.

He won't be as defensively responsible as Powe, but as I said before, our goal on the forecheck is to create turnovers and win pucks. If Nodl can win pucks, and he can do that better than Powe and Carcillo, he can eventually help get the puck into the hands of Giroux and Zherdev.

Other people may not agree with Nodl on that line, but this is strictly a philosophical decision as to what style and what type of player will best compliment those two.

I choose the player who is going to a better job of getting the puck onto their sticks and keeping it there. Nothing more.

I do think Maroon would be best for his physicality, his ability to open up tons of space, his ability to crash the net, and his ability to provide some noticeable complimentary offense, but if Laviolette says he's not ready, then I'm not going to question that.

I'm not expecting any miracles from Nodl.

EDIT: Hell, in the end I could be wrong entirely. Laviolette could feel the same way about Nodl that many of you do. I don't think so though.


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Well, offensively I consider Nodl pretty much deadweight even compared to Powe and Carcillo. He will not generate offense on his own, but the one thing that he will be able to do is play a much stronger boardgame than the other two. Boardgame is possession game. If you keep Giroux and Zherdev together in the offensive zone, and the more opportunities you give those two, they're going to create something. That's how talented they are.

Will Nodl open up space as much as Carcillo or Powe? Not likely. He's not going to be drawing attention to himself like they can, but he will be physical. So yes, it is a little space in the end, and even though that's fairly close to the amount of space the other two can open up, it's not as much.

He won't be as defensively responsible as Powe, but as I said before, our goal on the forecheck is to create turnovers and win pucks. If Nodl can win pucks, and he can do that better than Powe and Carcillo, he can eventually help get the puck into the hands of Giroux and Zherdev.

Other people may not agree with Nodl on that line, but this is strictly a philosophical decision as to what style and what type of player will best compliment those two.

I choose the player who is going to a better job of getting the puck onto their sticks and keeping it there. Nothing more.

I do think Maroon would be best for his physicality, his ability to open up tons of space, his ability to crash the net, and his ability to provide some noticeable complimentary offense, but if Laviolette says he's not ready, then I'm not going to question that.

I'm not expecting any miracles from Nodl.

EDIT: Hell, in the end I could be wrong entirely. Laviolette could feel the same way about Nodl that many of you do. I don't think so though.
If they could only combine Maroon and Nodl into 1 player, a HOF career it would be.

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10-04-2010, 07:32 PM
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If they could only combine Maroon and Nodl into 1 player, a HOF career it would be.
And Klotz dude. Klotz's skill needs to be added. Rinaldo's also

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And Klotz dude. Klotz's skill needs to be added. Rinaldo's also
Just rinaldo's attitude, fire, and physical play. As well a shis loose cannon reputation

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And Klotz dude. Klotz's skill needs to be added. Rinaldo's also
There are two players selected in the 7th round that have already, I guarantee, done more than Klotz ever will in the NHL. I think people forget, especially casual fans, just how inexcusable that pick is and how indicative it is on how one-track minded Homer and Snider can be. And that blind devotion to an insane philosophy just doesn't do anyone any good in the modern NHL.

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There are two players selected in the 7th round that have already, I guarantee, done more than Klotz ever will in the NHL. I think people forget, especially casual fans, just how inexcusable that pick is and how indicative it is on how one-track minded Homer and Snider can be. And that blind devotion to an insane philosophy just doesn't do anyone any good in the modern NHL.
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so they released Guerin...

thought he was going to get picked up...

see Homer isnt totaly without merit...

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If they could only combine Maroon and Nodl into 1 player, a HOF career it would be.
Probably the funniest thing you've ever said. I lol'd.

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It's too bad we couldn't a suitable winger for the third line. I know that this isn't happening (he signed with a KHL team), but why was there no interest in Marek Svatos from anyone, not just the Flyers? I don't know much about him, but he scored 30+ goals in 61 games one year. I guess injuries were a major concern.

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It's too bad we couldn't a suitable winger for the third line. I know that this isn't happening (he signed with a KHL team), but why was there no interest in Marek Svatos from anyone, not just the Flyers? I don't know much about him, but he scored 30+ goals in 61 games one year. I guess injuries were a major concern.
The fact that he sucks was a bigger concern.

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