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10-07-2010, 12:01 PM
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Philly yes, but Boston, disagree. My personal feeling is that Lucic and Krecji are wildly overrated and without Savard, I think the Bruins won't even be close to the top offense in the East.

Any team that has Ovechkin, Backstrom and Semin, or Crosby, Malkin and Staal in their top 9 certainly needs to be considered as well.

As well as Knuble, Laich, Fehr and Fleischmann, all of whom scored 20+ goals last year.

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10-07-2010, 12:05 PM
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Cap problems? How so??
They have like $10 mil cap space for at least six players, including #1D and two second liners.

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10-07-2010, 12:12 PM
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Defense will be the demise of the devils this season - ironic.
I think their defense is fine. The Ranger's D certainly isn't any better.

Lamoriello is adapting to a league thats becoming much more reliant on creativity up front with success being linked to offensive firepower in general.

He was a little late with the uptake, but hes light years ahead of our fearless leader.

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10-07-2010, 12:25 PM
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I think their defense is fine. The Ranger's D certainly isn't any better.

Lamoriello is adapting to a league thats becoming much more reliant on creativity up front with success being linked to offensive firepower in general.

He was a little late with the uptake, but hes light years ahead of our fearless leader.
Where did I say our defense was that great? Just because we aren't the greatest on defense I can't comment on anothers?
It's not bad, but it certainly isn't great, or Stanley cup worthy for that matter.

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10-07-2010, 12:37 PM
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I think their defense is fine. The Ranger's D certainly isn't any better.

Lamoriello is adapting to a league thats becoming much more reliant on creativity up front with success being linked to offensive firepower in general.

He was a little late with the uptake, but hes light years ahead of our fearless leader.
On the other hand, the two teams in the finals last year had very strong defenses, much better than what the Devils have this year. And we've seen the Caps struggle with just an "OK" defense in the playoffs

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10-07-2010, 01:10 PM
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Thing I like best about this year is that expectations are rightfully low and this should give a great opportunity to plug in additional younger players, in particular McD and Valentenko. As far as the POs go, if we make it fine, with Lundquist in net the Rangers will not be an easy opponent as they showed a few years ago against the Caps. My prediction is that we sneak in to the POs and have a couple of good games but get the boot early against some very good competition.

As for the Devils, I love it that so many of their fans and beat writers are picking them to win it all. I don't see them matching up well against the tops in the East, in particular Philly, Washington or Pitt. And very few of their fans are willing to call out the elephant in the room: Brodeur's play in big games, whether it's the POs or these past Olympics has been awful. My prediction would be another good regular season and another soft PO exit.

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10-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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i mega-loathe brooksie but i agree with every word of his preview

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10-07-2010, 01:58 PM
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The Rangers have always done their best when expectations have been the lowest so I really think they may have an underratedly good year this year.

Staal isn't their #1, MDZ is. Scott Stevens never saw a Norris and neither will Staal. I was really worried about a MDZ's sophomore slump, but the school of Robs that he attended and the offseason dedication may really put that away and he may only improve on his numbers. He looked really good in preseason. Overall the defense as a whole is much better than last year. Rozsival looks very good, Sauer looks very good and I think we'll see Vtank very soon. These guys are 22/23 have been playing pro and are ready to take the step.

Stepan has been remarkable, he's excelled at every level. Every challenge he's given, he rises to the top and succeeds. The competition gets better and he gets better, that's a very impressive sign and one you see from a top5 pick, not a 2nd rounder. This kid was the top scorer at the WJC, that's something people expected Taylor Hall to do. While being the top scorer at the WJC he lead team USA to gold in a major upset over Canada, he then went on to lead his college team to the NCAA finals only as a sophomore. Now he's playing in the NHL....He's had a busy year and he only keeps getting better. Let the kid play and let him win Rookie of the year!!!!

Rangers have improved their goaltending and have one of the best tandems in the league. Ottawa, Philly, and Montreal are all teams competing for playoff spots and have big question marks in goal imo. This team's offense has improved and can take advantage of that poor goaltending, it can be the difference in many games.

Toronto, Islanders, Carolina aren't playoff teams.

I think the Debbies might be playing with fire with the Kovy and I'm going to add in Arnott situation. Because Adding in Arnott messed up their cap. Adding in Kovy and Arnott and Langs now maybe not happy, team chemistry might be all messed up and cohesion was there thing. I hope they come apart and crumble!!!

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10-07-2010, 02:07 PM
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He's absolutely right about Anisimov, Stepan, and Staal. If Artie has a bad sophomore year, that second line is going to be a nightmare, especially if Prospal is gone for a while, or even the whole year. He needs to take a step in his progression this year, particularly when it comes to putting up points.

Brooks' predictions are pretty good, but I don't see Pittsburgh finishing that low, especially behind Ottawa (unless the Sens trade for a goalie) and I'm not sure I see the Devils making the finals. I think this is the year the Caps put it together in the playoffs. Maybe not finals, but conference finals for sure.

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10-07-2010, 02:12 PM
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I think their defense is fine. The Ranger's D certainly isn't any better.

Lamoriello is adapting to a league thats becoming much more reliant on creativity up front with success being linked to offensive firepower in general.

He was a little late with the uptake, but hes light years ahead of our fearless leader.
Totally agree. I love that people are bashing Louie Lams for this. Decisions like this prove just how great of a GM he is. He's not a stubborn old fool like some of his peers who stick to an outdated plan. He's changing with the times, making the tough choices. He's doing his job. Some people could learn from him.

Is his team perfect? No. That Rolston contract was not a smart move. The Kovy fiasco didn't make things easy on them, and they certainly could use another really good blueliner, but they're still a very strong team, and they have a very strong offense. Oh, and they have arguably the 2nd best goalscorer in the league, entering his prime, locked up at a relatively cheap salary.

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10-07-2010, 02:16 PM
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A little OT, but am I the only one thinking that all of these analysts are CRAZY for picking OTT so high? Everson has them 3rd in the East! I've also seen CBC guys pick them as high as 4th/5ht in the East. Not going to happen, IMO.

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10-07-2010, 02:19 PM
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A little OT, but am I the only one thinking that all of these analysts are CRAZY for picking OTT so high? Everson has them 3rd in the East! I've also seen CBC guys pick them as high as 4th/5ht in the East. Not going to happen, IMO.
Look at their division and you'd understand why.

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10-07-2010, 02:38 PM
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on the other hand, look at Ottawa's goalies...

I mean, Boston and Buffalo have very good chances to be better than Ottawa and Montreal is probably on par with them. There's no reason Ottawa is any kind of lock to win their division because it might appear that the division is weak (it's not really)

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10-07-2010, 02:53 PM
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Talk is that Jordan Staal is going to be out a good portion of the season with a foot injury. Pittsburgh is weak on the wings. Even with Crosby and Malkin they don't look that strong. Apart from Tangradi and Despres not too much in the pipeline for the future.

Philadelphia could go places if this Bobrovsky is for real. Their achilles heel has for quite a long time been in goal. It was last year even. They can be injury prone but they have the best defense in the east and enough guys who can put pucks in the net. They're also very weak in respect to future prospects. A real contender right now though.

Washington has the best depth overall in the East and some amazing players and prospects. They also play in the weakest division. If I were to choose a team most worthy to come out of the East this year it would be them.

Boston right now IMO is the third best team in the East. Good center depth. Some very nice prospects. May be a bit weak on defense after Chara. They have guys who can score and they have very good--not great goaltending.

New Jersey--they are in cap hell. Only going with 20 players and 9 of them in their 30's. That second line of Arnott, Langenbrunner, Elias average out to 35. Elias has had problems with injuries in the last few years. As for Rolston--he is a shell of what he used to be and Zubrus is still a good player but does anyone expect that third line to score a lot? As Dutch Shamrock put it I don't buy their contender status either. 82 games is a long hard grind and whatever they can piece together for a 4th line is not going to give their 2nd and 3rd lines with all that age and all the miles they've put in over the years much of a breather. As for the defense Volchenkov is a very nice addition. They'll be green on the bottom pairing and they've really only got one proven d-man with any real offensive flair and that is Greene--who is low salaried and heading into UFA after this season and doubtless is going to get big bucks out of someone if the Devils can't convince him to re-sign.

1. Washington 2. Philadelphia 3. Boston

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10-07-2010, 03:02 PM
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The good thing is that the expectations are super low for the Rangers and super high for everybody else, except maybe Carolina,the Isles and Florida.

Like Boston for example. Major major overrated team that will still have trouble scoring under Julien. Also, I think Montreal fizzles under the pressure of higher expectations

I like the Pens a lot, but Fleury is a big if. The Devils are basically Ottawa from 2008 -- way too top heavy, and Philly will struggle with their goaltending.

Tampa has nothing on defense. Very scary offense but horrid backline.

But ultimately, this is still a rebuilding year for the Rangers and the only way they make the playoffs is if everything goes right as far as injuries and exceeding production. I don't think they are there yet, and I would still like them to draft in the top-10 and get an elite center



1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Buffalo
4. Devils
5. Philly
6. Ottawa
7. Atlanta
8. Boston
9. Montreal
10. Rangers
11. Toronto
12. Tampa
13. Carolina
14. Islanders
15. Florida

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10-07-2010, 03:25 PM
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IF we make the playoffs and play the Devils, we will not lose.

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10-07-2010, 03:28 PM
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IF we make the playoffs and play the Devils, we will not lose.
Based off what? The preseason? Our track record over the years in the playoffs?

There are far too many variables. Lets get to the playoffs, and lets beat them a few times in the regular season before we start saying this.

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10-07-2010, 03:28 PM
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these predicitons are wrong cuz we will finish 5th in the East!!!!! LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!

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10-07-2010, 03:57 PM
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This team is going to struggle to make the playoffs IMO. We lack a true #1C and consistent secondary scoring which to me leads to the bigger issue...our D.

This defense is going to have real tough time containing other teams F's in our own zone!

This team again will struggle to score consistently after the top line and thus as in years past we will need to be very stingy in the goals against department.

Staal and girardi are a decent top pairing. Staal is a 1st pair guy on the defensive side of the puck. Most would agree Girardi is at best a 2nd pairing guy.

MDZ and Rozsival are a scary 2nd pairing. MDZ is awful in his own zone, at this point in his development he plays AHL calibre defense, he is a 3rd pairing guy who can run a PP. Rozsival is wildly inconsistent, especially when trying to do too much, which he will be forced to do next to MDZ.

Sauer, Gilroy, and Eminger, are a rookie, a 2nd year defensive liability, and a journeyman defensive liability respectively.

We have ,
1 borderline top pair D.
2 2nd/3rd pair D.
2 2nd year D who are among the worst Dmen in their own zone league wide.
1 rookie.
1 extra who is a defensive liability.

This to me reaks of a team that will need to outscore a lot of teams or rely way to heavily on all world goaltending to be considered a serious playoff contender.

All goes real well 7-8 spot.
Otherwise this is a bottom 5 team in the east.
I hope I'm proven wrong.

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10-07-2010, 04:04 PM
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Agree with most of his points except Anisimov being the most important offensive player. I am not convinced he is the key to the Rangers improvement and dont accept the notion that if he doesnt play well then the Rangers will suffer. I do agree that secondary scoring is critical - however I see Stepan being the option if either AA or EC falter (esp AA). Dont be suprised if AA ends up on the 3rd line.

I think the Rangers have the talent to finish in the playoffs. The key for the Rangers now is team chemistry. That is what will make the difference between them top 8 and being an also ran.

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This is how i think it'll play out

Oh and i think its the Caps time to win the Cup this year.


1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. NJD
6. Buffalo
7. NYR
8. Tampa
9. Ottawa
10. Montreal
11. Atlanta
12. Carolina
13. Toronto
14. Islanders
15. Florida

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I don't buy into the argument that this defense isn't any better.

-Sauer is a better defensive dman than Redden.

-Both Gilroy and MDZ are a year older and in better shape in last year.

-If/When McDonagh and Valentenko come up, they're both better defensively than Gilroy was last year.

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I don't buy into the argument that this defense isn't any better.

-Sauer is a better defensive dman than Redden.

-Both Gilroy and MDZ are a year older and in better shape in last year.

-If/When McDonagh and Valentenko come up, they're both better defensively than Gilroy was last year.
Its a young defense corp who will be learning pretty much everything - not just the ins and outs of their game, but how to read and react to the pro game, their goalie and their new teammates. And on top of that Staal and Del Z are also still filling out and learning.

I'd like to see Staal make a big jump, in fact I'm predicting it, I think he turns it up this year.

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This team is going to struggle to make the playoffs IMO. We lack a true #1C and consistent secondary scoring which to me leads to the bigger issue...our D.

This defense is going to have real tough time containing other teams F's in our own zone!

This team again will struggle to score consistently after the top line and thus as in years past we will need to be very stingy in the goals against department.

Staal and girardi are a decent top pairing. Staal is a 1st pair guy on the defensive side of the puck. Most would agree Girardi is at best a 2nd pairing guy.

MDZ and Rozsival are a scary 2nd pairing. MDZ is awful in his own zone, at this point in his development he plays AHL calibre defense, he is a 3rd pairing guy who can run a PP. Rozsival is wildly inconsistent, especially when trying to do too much, which he will be forced to do next to MDZ.

Sauer, Gilroy, and Eminger, are a rookie, a 2nd year defensive liability, and a journeyman defensive liability respectively.

We have ,
1 borderline top pair D.
2 2nd/3rd pair D.
2 2nd year D who are among the worst Dmen in their own zone league wide.
1 rookie.
1 extra who is a defensive liability.

This to me reaks of a team that will need to outscore a lot of teams or rely way to heavily on all world goaltending to be considered a serious playoff contender.

All goes real well 7-8 spot.
Otherwise this is a bottom 5 team in the east.
I hope I'm proven wrong.
I had the Rangers as a bottom five team before the Frolov signing. Now, between Frolov and the development of Stepan, I can see them finishing as high as 6, (if everything goes right), and as low as 12. They'll chase a playoff spot, but, I'm not sure if they make it.

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Toronto, Islanders, Carolina aren't playoff teams.

Add Florida to that list as well.

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