No words, at all to explain what I'm thinking about our GM.
But unfortunate as it is for Leighton, it's pretty sweet for our team. I never wanted this guy back, and its looking like be won't be back afterall.
So if being happy because of someone's misfortune and bad health makes me a bad person, then so be it, I'm a terrible person. But I don't ****ing care!!!!
No words, at all to explain what I'm thinking about our GM.
But unfortunate as it is for Leighton, it's pretty sweet for our team. I never wanted this guy back, and its looking like be won't be back afterall.
So if being happy because of someone's misfortune and bad health makes me a bad person, then so be it, I'm a terrible person. But I don't ****ing care!!!!
Go Bob!!!!!
The problem is that, in case Bobrovsky isn't cutting it, you can't hit the open market and sign an Antti Niemi if he were to suddenly become available for free out of the blue...
Can anyone actually picture Holmgren going out and voiding that contract? I would be shocked if he did that honestly. Even if its found Leighton is unfit for this season.
How about Snider uses his massive leverage and gets a complete mulligan on the off-season? "Hey Paul, you now know that the mediocre journeyman who was exposed in the Stanley Cup finals also has a serious back condition! What do you do now???"
The other issue is, how does Holmgren know that Leighton sustained the injury in a game? How does he know that it wasn't Leighton moving furniture into wherever he's at now and hurt himself doing that? James Sheppard was "suspended" because he got hurt in a motor-cycle accident, and while he's rehabbing with the Wild and still a member on the team (although not on the roster and not counting on the cap) - he's not getting paid. Could be a lot underneath the surface here than no one knows about. I'm not going to blame Holmgren for that part, but as I said before elsewhere, it wouldn't be as bad if it was for another team because they wouldn't be counting on Michael Leighton to be their starting goaltender.
Very doubtful the contract gets voided. They said he was injured during the summer working out. He signed July 1. I doubt he was doing a heavy workout routine in June when the SCF just ended.
He is signed in July, hurts his back working out in July or August and tries to work through it. How the F is that Homer's fault?
Even if the injury occurred before July a normal physical isn't going to show a bulging disc. He signed a 2 years $3MM contract not a "Danny Briere" 7 yr 49MM contract so they aren't doing a CAT Scan or MRIs, especially for an existing player that hasn't had back issues in the past.
Best case scenario - he comes back from surgery & rehab in 3 months and is a solid back with playoff experience for Bob.
Worst case - he can't get back on the ice and is waived. The Flyers pick up someone like Roloson at the deadline or sooner if Bob comes back down to earth.
The other issue is, how does Holmgren know that Leighton sustained the injury in a game? How does he know that it wasn't Leighton moving furniture into wherever he's at now and hurt himself doing that? James Sheppard was "suspended" because he got hurt in a motor-cycle accident, and while he's rehabbing with the Wild and still a member on the team (although not on the roster and not counting on the cap) - he's not getting paid. Could be a lot underneath the surface here than no one knows about. I'm not going to blame Holmgren for that part, but as I said before elsewhere, it wouldn't be as bad if it was for another team because they wouldn't be counting on Michael Leighton to be their starting goaltender.
I wonder if Shooter even requested a physical or at that point they just signed the contract? Either way Shooter takes some heat for not getting him to take a physical. Leightin had no contract when he signed the flyers deal. I would do my best to void that deal if i am the flyers. To bad about hurt feelings and what not. Leighton did not reveal a pre existing condition. He negoiated in bad faith imo.
As someone with the same type of back issues as what is going on here, none of this stuff is that cut and dry and it is certainly something that wouldn't necessarily be diagnosed during a physical.
Also, bulging disc and a herniated one are pretty much the same thing. Not only that, but the main issue is caused by inflammation, which can flare up or resolve itself on its own. The inflammation then pinches the nerve, causing pain, numbness, etc.
I've never had to get surgery, but have done PT twice to resolve such issues. It can fluctuate. One week it might not feel so bad, the next it is mildly sore, the next you are in crippling pain, and then finally you are no longer in pain but experience numbness in your leg. Two months later the numbness gradually goes away and you feel good as new. Only for a week later to be sore again. It is just a tricky thing.
Sometimes when my back is sore, it resolves itself in a week and I'm fine. Other times, I end up on codeine for a month, doing PT, etc., and there isn't any way for me or the docs to tell when this stuff starts up whether I'll be fine in a week or will have to get surgery. It is very much a wait and see.
Very doubtful the contract gets voided. They said he was injured during the summer working out. He signed July 1. I doubt he was doing a heavy workout routine in June when the SCF just ended.
He is signed in July, hurts his back working out in July or August and tries to work through it. How the F is that Homer's fault?
Even if the injury occurred before July a normal physical isn't going to show a bulging disc. He signed a 2 years $3MM contract not a "Danny Briere" 7 yr 49MM contract so they aren't doing a CAT Scan or MRIs, especially for an existing player that hasn't had back issues in the past.
Best case scenario - he comes back from surgery & rehab in 3 months and is a solid back with playoff experience for Bob.
Worst case - he can't get back on the ice and is waived. The Flyers pick up someone like Roloson at the deadline or sooner if Bob comes back down to earth.
Leighton himself said the injury occurred during the playoffs. He lied to them about being injured during summer workouts.
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Leighton admitted Friday he’s had this injury since the playoffs, but didn’t tell the club about it until it flared up badly during the summer.
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Why? Holmgren said the Flyers were not aware of the issue until after they re-signed Leighton and he told them he wrenched his back during summer workouts. Had Leighton told them about his back injury, you wonder if he would have gotten a contract.
And if he went somewhere else, would they have found it?
Even though Holmgren couldn't have known about it unless being told, he's still responsible for giving an injured player a contract when there were clearly other options available.
And if he went somewhere else, would they have found it?
Even though Holmgren couldn't have known about it unless being told, he's still responsible for giving an injured player a contract when there were clearly other options available.
Again, probably not unless they were looking for a back injury specifically.
The guy knew the situation he was in. I bet if I'd had his career arc I would've done the same thing, just as a lot of people here probably would.
Maybe, but the other side of it is that if he'd said something they might have looked into it harder back then... and it would have been taken care of by now, and Bob would be in the AHL.
Leighton may lose any shot he had at the starting gig because he didn't say anything.
Not sure why we should be happy about this. He was 16-5-2 with a 2.48 and .918 sv%. I know he sucked in the finals, but he was great in the regular season. Lets hope Sergei and Bouch stay healthy now!
It started bothering him in the playoffs he said....ok I'm sure he wants to downplay how much but to me in the finals it was obvious his game regressed. His technical game was way off .....could it be b/c of his back? He was a big factor in losing that series and if he was playing hurt..again totally not cool.
Ill advised signing all the way around with this guy.....his character is in question now and I don't want a guy with a questionable character on this team that thinks of himself first whether it is human nature or not....
An expensive mistake....let's move on. I don't want this guy and his baggage on this team .....he can regain his nickname "suitcase" and remain the journeyman goalie he's always been....
Not sure why we should be happy about this. He was 16-5-2 with a 2.48 and .918 sv%. I know he sucked in the finals, but he was great in the regular season. Lets hope Sergei and Bouch stay healthy now!
Was he really "great" or was it just a quality run for him, which happens with athletes all the time? In short, was that play something we could expect from him again...
Personally, I doubt it. I don't think there's any difference between Leighton and Boucher in reality over a longer haul. So, lets hope Bob is legit... because he's the only goalie on this team right now that I have any faith of actually (eventually) leading us where we want to be.
Was he really "great" or was it just a quality run for him, which happens with athletes all the time? In short, was that play something we could expect from him again...
Personally, I doubt it. I don't think there's any difference between Leighton and Boucher in reality over a longer haul. So, lets hope Bob is legit... because he's the only goalie on this team right now that I have any faith of actually (eventually) leading us where we want to be.
Well, I would assume with the Flyers roster they have now, he would be able to come close to that again. Had he been healthy. Players are allowed to get better over time. But at the same time I understand why people wouldn't believe it based on 1 season. Either way, I hope he gets healthy enough to return to last season's form.
Not sure why we should be happy about this. He was 16-5-2 with a 2.48 and .918 sv%. I know he sucked in the finals, but he was great in the regular season. Lets hope Sergei and Bouch stay healthy now!
And I'm no sure why some people are upset about this. We're not talking about a prized prospect with untapped potential, we're talking about a career waiver wire goalie who caught lightening in a bottle for 30 games. This guy has been waived four times in his career, he shouldn't have even been resigned as our starting goalie, even without health issues. This just makes it all the more embarrassing and a waste of valuable cap space.
