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10-11-2010, 08:25 PM
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Here's what Bettman said about Avery's "sloppy seconds" comment:

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“What Sean Avery said was wrong. It was offensive. It was disgusting. We have a lot of women who are fans. We have a lot of children who are fans, and to be perfectly honest I wouldn’t want to have to explain to my 12-year-old daughter what he said.”
The same exact thing can be said for Wisniewski's gesture.

I don't think Avery should have been suspended for saying "sloppy seconds." But if Avery was suspended for that, then Wisniewski should be as well. The NHL has to start being consistent in meting out punishment. The double standard for Avery becomes even more obvious if there is no suspension for Wisniewski.

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10-11-2010, 08:29 PM
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Here's what Bettman said about Avery's "sloppy seconds" comment:



The same exact thing can be said for Wisniewski's gesture.

I don't think Avery should have been suspended for saying "sloppy seconds." But if Avery was suspended for that, then Wisniewski should be as well. The NHL has to start being consistent in meting out punishment. The double standard for Avery becomes even more obvious if there is no suspension for Wisniewski.
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10-11-2010, 08:34 PM
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Here's what Bettman said about Avery's "sloppy seconds" comment:



The same exact thing can be said for Wisniewski's gesture.

I don't think Avery should have been suspended for saying "sloppy seconds." But if Avery was suspended for that, then Wisniewski should be as well. The NHL has to start being consistent in meting out punishment. The double standard for Avery becomes even more obvious if there is no suspension for Wisniewski.
Thank you. This is why he needs to get fined. The less consistency you show as a league, the weaker the league looks. If you fine one guy for something and another guy does a similar thing and you don't fine him then you look stupid (though I'm not sure how much more stupid Bettman can look).

It's the same thing with the Kovalchuk contract and why it had to be allowed. The NHL can't allow the "circumventing" contracts for other teams then just all of a sudden say NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT to the Devils because it ruins the league's credibility.

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10-11-2010, 08:34 PM
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Here's what Bettman said about Avery's "sloppy seconds" comment:



The same exact thing can be said for Wisniewski's gesture.

I don't think Avery should have been suspended for saying "sloppy seconds." But if Avery was suspended for that, then Wisniewski should be as well. The NHL has to start being consistent in meting out punishment. The double standard for Avery becomes even more obvious if there is no suspension for Wisniewski.
lol Bettman better say something about "not wanting to explain what that gesture means to his daughter at 14" now. I knew what that gesture ment in elementary school. Anybody, from 3rd grade & on, knows what that gesture is.

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10-11-2010, 08:39 PM
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The league should be ashamed of themselves if they fine or suspend him.

Anyone who knew what the gesture meant is old enough to handle it, and anyone too young to know what it meant probably didn't even think anything of it. They'll only ask their parents about it because the media is talking about it.
Same can be said about 'sloppy seconds'. Don't be a homer and view this objectively.

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10-11-2010, 08:40 PM
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Who cares about the disciplinary action, Boogaard should run him next time the teams play.

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10-11-2010, 09:04 PM
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Who cares about the disciplinary action, Boogaard should run him next time the teams play.
Agreed Boogaard should run him hard, but actions should be an option for league as well, the Rangers don't play the Isles until home and home in December, so there is time between now and then

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10-11-2010, 09:06 PM
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yeah that kinda stuff happens in beer league because it belongs in BEER LEAGUE. if your gonna make a gesture be more slick about it than that man. total lack of professionalism, these guys are making money correct? say what you want about what Avery's done before but thats not the issue here.

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10-11-2010, 09:46 PM
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Who cares about the disciplinary action, Boogaard should run him next time the teams play.
he had 2 periods to do it...cant hit what you cant catch...boogard is useless.

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10-11-2010, 09:50 PM
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id be surprised if the league even reviews this at all.
if this isnt even addressed avery should make it a habit to make the same gesture after every whistle and bring the NHL double standard machine to the forefront. bettman is an asshat plain and simple.

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he had 2 periods to do it...cant hit what you cant catch...boogard is useless.
Boogards not useless, so far in the TWO games they have played, he hasnt fought because no body would, and him and Wiz may not have been on the ice at the same time. And the game was close until 5 min in the 3rd your not going to throw the fourth line out there every other line change.

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10-11-2010, 10:07 PM
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he had 2 periods to do it...cant hit what you cant catch...boogard is useless.
He played less than 2 minutes tonight.

Can't fight or become a physical pest if you aren't put on the ice.

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10-11-2010, 10:09 PM
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Not gonna lie. Wisniewski looked like he knew what he was doing with that gesture.

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He played less than 2 minutes tonight.

Can't fight or become a physical pest if you aren't put on the ice.
And he couldn't get any more time today because Tortsie isn't going to put his ass out there when there's rush after rush down the ice. Although, he did get two shots on goal I believe... Must be a career high.

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Not gonna lie. Wisniewski looked like he knew what he was doing with that gesture.
lol He was pretty fluent in motion.

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Rather unseemly behavior indeed.

Being a public holiday, there must have been plenty of children at the game to witness it Widniewiski crude display.

Wait, the Islanders put provacatively dressed young girls out to clean the ice. Maybe all the little boys in the crowd were watching the Ice Girls and hoping the Ice Girls would do to them what Wisniewiski was gesturing to Avery.

Maybe Bettman missed seeing it because he was doing the same thing to Charles' wang.

Lot's of class at the Mausoleum.

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10-11-2010, 10:17 PM
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Seriously people are making a big deal about nothing. I saw it when it happened and laughed. No kid saw him do that. Not a chance a random 6 yr old watching the game happened to see Wiz do that and thought what does that mean. The only people who realized what he was doing were people who knew what it meant.

And yes, if that was Avery, he'd be suspended.

Wiz will get a fine. That's all it deserves, no big deal. His mistake was making the gesture, he could've essentially gotten the same message to Avery verbally and we wouldn't be talking about it b/c we'd have no idea what he said.

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His form was indicative of an experienced veteran.
Pun intended.

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Seriously people are making a big deal about nothing. I saw it when it happened and laughed. No kid saw him do that. Not a chance a random 6 yr old watching the game happened to see Wiz do that and thought what does that mean. The only people who realized what he was doing were people who knew what it meant.

And yes, if that was Avery, he'd be suspended.

Wiz will get a fine. That's all it deserves, no big deal. His mistake was making the gesture, he could've essentially gotten the same message to Avery verbally and we wouldn't be talking about it b/c we'd have no idea what he said.
yea he should get fined. dont the NBA players get fined for throwing up gang signs???

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yea he should get fined. dont the NBA players get fined for throwing up gang signs???
I saw an article last year saying the NFL has someone that their job is to simply see if players use gang signs, I would think there would be a fine, same in NBA

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I saw an article last year saying the NFL has someone that their job is to simply see if players use gang signs, I would think there would be a fine, same in NBA
hahah maybe they want a rap career after football

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He played less than 2 minutes tonight.

Can't fight or become a physical pest if you aren't put on the ice.
believe me i am not one to defend torts on pretty much anything but if you watch the guy skate you can understand why he better off on the bench. has be made anhy glaring mistakes? no. is it blatantly obvious he can not keep up with the speed of the league? absolutely!
and if no one is going to fight him, what exactly is be bringing to the table? you cant really afford to waste a roster spot on a slow lumbering bag of fists anymore. id rather give the spot to someone who can keep a regular shift and at the very least keep up.

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They should fine him but probably won't.

Can't wait until the next Rangers Islanders meeting and see what Avery does .

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believe me i am not one to defend torts on pretty much anything but if you watch the guy skate you can understand why he better off on the bench. has be made anhy glaring mistakes? no. is it blatantly obvious he can not keep up with the speed of the league? absolutely!
and if no one is going to fight him, what exactly is be bringing to the table? you cant really afford to waste a roster spot on a slow lumbering bag of fists anymore. id rather give the spot to someone who can keep a regular shift and at the very least keep up.
yea i mean why couldnt they give byers soryal a chance

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Seriously people are making a big deal about nothing. I saw it when it happened and laughed. No kid saw him do that. Not a chance a random 6 yr old watching the game happened to see Wiz do that and thought what does that mean. The only people who realized what he was doing were people who knew what it meant.

And yes, if that was Avery, he'd be suspended.

Wiz will get a fine. That's all it deserves, no big deal. His mistake was making the gesture, he could've essentially gotten the same message to Avery verbally and we wouldn't be talking about it b/c we'd have no idea what he said.
You figure that one out all by yourself?

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