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10-11-2010, 11:47 PM
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Are there any good baseball message boards? All the ones I have seen are complete crap - just tons of un-moderated trolling, "we will kick your ass" type garbage.

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Are there any good baseball message boards? All the ones I have seen are complete crap - just tons of un-moderated trolling, "we will kick your ass" type garbage.
I post on one, but I can't post it here. I tried PMing you but I guess you have that turned off.

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This statement is very, very wrong.

Phils will SWEEP.
Just listening to the Giants (particularly Aubrey Huff in the postgame), they remind me of the Phillies in '08.

They're young, they're having fun, they've got nothing to lose, they're winning games a run at a time and they're pitching their ***** off.

I feel that the Phillies are the rightful favorite - but if they end up heading to San Francisco down 0-2 after getting stonewalled by Lincecum and Cain, I would not be shocked.

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Just listening to the Giants (particularly Aubrey Huff in the postgame), they remind me of the Phillies in '08.

They're young, they're having fun, they've got nothing to lose, they're winning games a run at a time and they're pitching their ***** off.

I feel that the Phillies are the rightful favorite - but if they end up heading to San Francisco down 0-2 after getting stonewalled by Lincecum and Cain, I would not be shocked.
The pure fear of the Giants has to stop. It's not that they're a not good or capable team, it's that we're the ****ing Phillies.

The offense worked against Cincinnati just like offense can have a tendency to work in the playoffs. The important part isn't that they weren't scoring a ton, it's that they were getting the hits when they needed them, and taking advantage of the opportunities they got.

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10-12-2010, 08:58 AM
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Anyone scared of the Giants, forgets we have Chase Utley and Roy Halladay on our team.

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10-12-2010, 09:17 AM
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This statement is very, very wrong.

Phils will SWEEP.
The Giants have a very good rotation. But the Phillies still have a distinct advantage in that department, our top 3 starters have a average 3.26 xFIP, Giants 3.84 xFIP. Giants are supposed to have the stronger bullpen than us, but they had trouble against the Braves, who by the way were a terrible offensive team without Chipper and Prado, so seriously, don't be too impressed by what the Giants starters did against them. If Romo and Wilson don't get it straight for them, that back end of the bullpen is vulnerable, too.

Looking more closely, all the games against the Braves were close ones for them, and their game-winning runs in each win were gifts from either the umpires or shoddy defense (looking at you, Brooks Conrad).

No doubt the offense needs to have a better showing this series, but if they do come out of their hole at all, this could be over in 5. Otherwise, it's going to be tough.

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Yeah, but that's a pretty close tradeoff.

Lincecum/Cain/Sanchez is very, very close to Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels and it's not like our offense has really shown up yet.
Halladay/Lincecum perhaps 3 times will be epic.

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Giants fan here, gonna be an epic series. To be the best you've gotta beat the best and right now that's Philly. I will say that the gap between each team's top 3 is closer than some are making it out to be. Sanchez in particular has been almost as good as Linecum down the stretch, and he is deadly against lefties, so I wouldn't overlook that fact. The bullpen match-up will be trouble if Romo and Wilson don't get their acts together, and the Phills have an obvious hitting advantage. In the end it will come down to pitching, and Linecum/Halladay, Cain/Oswalt, and Sanchez/Hamels are all going to be amazing match-ups.


Sidenote, don't know much about the Phils bullpen. What can you guys tell me? (ie. who comes in when, righties/lefties, etc.)

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I will say that the gap between each team's top 3 is closer than some are making it out to be. Sanchez in particular has been almost as good as Linecum down the stretch, and he is deadly against lefties, so I wouldn't overlook that fact.
No doubt that the Giants have the next best rotation in the playoffs, better than anything the AL has in my opinion. If both teams' pitchers execute and both offenses stagnate like they did in the NLDS, it could be very close.

Sanchez has been always been tough for the Phillies to figure out, definitely. However, Utley hits him well (as he does to all LHP), it's really just Howard that I'd expect to struggle hard in that game.

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Madson will come in the 8th and Lidge in the 9th. Prior to that, H2O.

J.C. Romero will come in to get lefties in the 7th, Jose Contreras or Chad Durbin come in to face righties. If there is trouble before then, Chad Durbin usually comes in first. If the roster is the same, Antonio Bastardo is our other lefty arm, but he gets wild with his control and won't see action unless there's a tough lefty early. Blanton was available in the bullpen last series, this time Kyle Kendrick might become the long man if Blanton is left as the 4th starter, otherwise Blanton will continue in that role if we do decide to roll with H2O alone.

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Giants fan here, gonna be an epic series. To be the best you've gotta beat the best and right now that's Philly. I will say that the gap between each team's top 3 is closer than some are making it out to be. Sanchez in particular has been almost as good as Linecum down the stretch, and he is deadly against lefties, so I wouldn't overlook that fact. The bullpen match-up will be trouble if Romo and Wilson don't get their acts together, and the Phills have an obvious hitting advantage. In the end it will come down to pitching, and Linecum/Halladay, Cain/Oswalt, and Sanchez/Hamels are all going to be amazing match-ups.


Sidenote, don't know much about the Phils bullpen. What can you guys tell me? (ie. who comes in when, righties/lefties, etc.)
Actually, I think it will come down to hitting... who can hit the other team's starters?

Have a lot more faith in the Phils on that front than I do SF.

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Actually, I think it will come down to hitting... who can hit the other team's starters?

Have a lot more faith in the Phils on that front than I do SF.
This is exactly how I feel. I think the pitching is very close, but the Phillies are very good in close games and I expect them to win this one in 6.

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No doubt that the Giants have the next best rotation in the playoffs, better than anything the AL has in my opinion. If both teams' pitchers execute and both offenses stagnate like they did in the NLDS, it could be very close.

Sanchez has been always been tough for the Phillies to figure out, definitely. However, Utley hits him well (as he does to all LHP), it's really just Howard that I'd expect to struggle hard in that game.



Madson will come in the 8th and Lidge in the 9th. Prior to that, H2O.

J.C. Romero will come in to get lefties in the 7th, Jose Contreras or Chad Durbin come in to face righties. If there is trouble before then, Chad Durbin usually comes in first. If the roster is the same, Antonio Bastardo is our other lefty arm, but he gets wild with his control and won't see action unless there's a tough lefty early. Blanton was available in the bullpen last series, this time Kyle Kendrick might become the long man if Blanton is left as the 4th starter, otherwise Blanton will continue in that role if we do decide to roll with H2O alone.

Good to know, thanks for the info. I know very little about these guys save for Romero, who can be a little wild at times.


And yeah if we see any Phillies relievers in the 7th inning of a game I'll consider that a blessing.

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10-12-2010, 04:58 PM
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Actually, I think it will come down to hitting... who can hit the other team's starters?

Have a lot more faith in the Phils on that front than I do SF.

True. I guess I was looking at it more from a Giants persepective, as in: can our pitching shut down the Phils enough so that 2,3,4 runs can win a game?

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I think that whomever ends up winning this next series is huge favorites to take it all regardless of who comes out of the AL... the rotations of both the Phillies and the Giants are substantially better than anything in the AL, imho.

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Yeah, I guess that is the main encouragement, SF makes our lineup look like the 27 Yankees (no offense to SF fans).

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Feels weird that it's the Giants this year, and not the Dodgers.

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Feels weird that it's the Giants this year, and not the Dodgers.
Meh, same bums, different colors.

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What really feels weird is Broxton won't be around to blow up. I'll miss that part.

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What really feels weird is Broxton won't be around to blow up. I'll miss that part.
Wilson was warming up for the part. Hopefully we won't need it.

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Why the **** are the Rangers using Mountain Dew instead of champagne?

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Why the **** are the Rangers using Mountain Dew instead of champagne?
Josh Hamilton comes to mind.

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Josh Hamilton comes to mind.
Nothing wrong with some MD. Something that sweet makes the victory a little sweeter haha.

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Josh Hamilton comes to mind.
Most likely. It was speculated when he skipped their first champagne romp.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big...urn=mlb-272472

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Should the Rangers break from usual baseball tradition and put the kibosh on any alcohol for any future celebrations, if necessary? Like the situation with the Angels and Nick Adenhart's jersey last season, I believe there's room for a discussion to be had and it certainly seems strange to engage in anything that excludes one of the players most responsible for the team being in that position.

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