Soooo has anyone here actually played a high level of hockey? Skill and Hockey IQ are completely different. No questions asked. I don't even see how theres a debate. Otherwise Enver Lisin would be Ilya Kovalchuk minus the shot.
And leadership abilities has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with hockey IQ, thats personality not smarts.
I played right up to college, where both my skill and my hockey IQ hit their ceiling. Agree with your post, though. And while I didn't make a dent in the hockey world, I do make a mean marinara sauce.
Sean Avery does not know how to play hockey. His efforts and skating make it look like he does, but in reality, he has no hockey IQ.
Someone who's offense revolves solely around throwing the puck from behind the net into the crease area 15x a game is not a high hockey IQ.
Avery is not defensively responsible, can not pass a puck, and can barely recept a puck.
I'm not knocking Avery, I think he's a fine player when he's on his game, but his hockey IQ is nowhere near that of a player like Anisimov's. That's just silly.
You and this other guy confuse skill with Hockey intelligence.
Avery is not a highly-skilled player (although he's much more skilled than what a lot of you give him credit for). But if you know hockey ...if you truely know the game; you know Avery has a high hockey intelligence. Just not the skill to go with it.
Same with Dubinsky.
It's really not worth debating this topic with guys like you. Either you know and understand the game from playing the game and/or comprehend what you see these players doing, because you've studied the game. Or you don't.
sean is a decent-good player out there, but comon DG...the guy is not a high hockey iq player....hell the sheer amount of times he pulls us offsides immediately makes it impossible for him to have a high iq...thats just stupid.
Pulling off-sides? That's your defining evidence for Avery not having a high hockey IQ?
When some guy comes offf with this "theory and evaluation" of the hockey intelligence of specific players, as he (and a few others have) in this thread, the only thing that becomes quite clear and certain; is that these guys are the ones with zero hockey intelligence.