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10-13-2010, 02:13 PM
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I think you need to make a thread about it to find out haha
I look for Pleks, AK46, Gio, and Poolie to all play a good game tonight. They all will be trying extra hard to get their first goal of the season.

It would be beautiful if they all scored, Cammy, and Subban scored and we blow TB out 6-2.

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I guess Martin realized how awful Gill-O'Byrne would be...

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We'll see. It's hard to tell from one game anyway, especially since Boucher has had one total real game of figuring out his team and Martin his missing his best player.

But I suspect that system-wise, the guy with one NHL game of experience will hand the guy with a thousand his butt. The kind of puck pressure game Boucher preaches is exactly what the Habs need if they want to improve; the kind of passive system Martin practices is exactly what they need if they're aiming for a lottery spot.

Or we might not, it often takes more than a few games to set up a system (part of why the Habs were better as a team early last season, even though goaltending would lose them games).
Rephrasing your position:

- If Tampa wins - the Boucher system was better than the Martin system

- If Tampa loses - the Boucher system needs time to set up

- The Habs played a lot better before the Martin system set up last year

- Ergo - the Martin system sucks (that is, if there is such thing).

Am I right ?


Oh, I forgot - Price sucks (that's why they would lose at start season) and Halak rulz - that why they won at the end despite Martin's system

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Tampa will win tonight. Not sure on the score, but the combination of Boucher knowing our system and the Quebecois incentive are overpowering.
I feel the same

3-1 Bolts, St-Louis will hurt us but Carey Price will do a decent job and will not have many boo birds.

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NHL.com

It's free for the next ten days or so...

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Canadien Express on RDS

Subscribe to RDS, and notice there is a program called "Canadien Express" on RDS at 11:30. Is this like Jays in an hour? Because that would be amazing since I take a class from 6:30 to 10:30 on weeknights....

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Subscribe to RDS, and notice there is a program called "Canadien Express" on RDS at 11:30. Is this like Jays in an hour? Because that would be amazing since I take a class from 6:30 to 10:30 on weeknights....
its exactly what you thought it was.

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Subscribe to RDS, and notice there is a program called "Canadien Express" on RDS at 11:30. Is this like Jays in an hour? Because that would be amazing since I take a class from 6:30 to 10:30 on weeknights....
Yep, its a shorten version of the whole game.

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10-13-2010, 02:56 PM
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its exactly what you thought it was.
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Am I right ?
Nah. I think one game is not a whole lot to evaluate anything, but we still have enough eyes to see if the Bolts do play that vaunted puck pressure game, and get some idea of how it interacts with Martin's passive game. My suspicion is that in the long term the results won't be pretty for the Habs, but, in one game, anything could happen.

However, I think we do know that the Habs need to play a more puck-controlling game to be successful. We know that the team's "system" last year didn't involve that very much (assuming, as you point out, that there was such a thing). I don't think these are terribly controversial opinions. I personally think the passive style is Martin's doing, but I may yet be proven wrong and either way, aren't we agreed that this passive "let them shoot" style is doomed to failure and needs to change regardless of the cause?

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Oh, I forgot - Price sucks (that's why they would lose at start season) and Halak rulz - that why they won at the end despite Martin's system
Uh no, I certainly would say no such thing, thanks for putting nonsense in my mouth.

Both goalies were actually equally erratic at the start of last season and -- and this part is often forgotten by people -- it was Price that got stable first and got the teams its first real batch of wins, before Halak caught fire. However, by then the Habs had turned from a team that outplayed other teams at evens to a team that got shelled practically every game, so they generally couldn't win unless the goalie stood on his head.

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I'm wondering if HabsTV still plays the pregame warmup? I remember they used to do it a few years ago but haven't really looked lately, anyone have any info? Thanks!

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Rephrasing your position:

- If Tampa wins - the Boucher system was better than the Martin system

- If Tampa loses - the Boucher system needs time to set up

- The Habs played a lot better before the Martin system set up last year

- Ergo - the Martin system sucks (that is, if there is such thing).

Am I right ?


Oh, I forgot - Price sucks (that's why they would lose at start season) and Halak rulz - that why they won at the end despite Martin's system
Don't bother with him, he's to Jacques Martin what HalakRulz is to Carey Price.


Also, what he fails to understand is that Boucher's offensive system gets smashed into bits by a defensive system once in the playoffs. It happened in the CHL, it happened in the AHL, and it will happen again in the NHL.

He talks all high and mighty about 'outdated' coaching, and 'new NHL' coaching (load of BS), when we can see that defensive systems is what mostly has won cups, in the post, and pre-cap era. Offensive system teams like Washington and San Jose have always crash and burned in the playoffs against better defensive teams.

But yeah, we should really take ONE regular season game as the undisputed full measuring yardstick as to which system is the best. As misguided as the poster himself.


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Don't bother with him, he's to Jacques Martin what HalakRulz is to Carey Price.


Also, what he fails to understand is that Boucher's offensive system gets smashed into bits by a defensive system once in the playoffs. It happened in the CHL, it happened in the AHL, and it will happen again in the NHL.

He talks all high and mighty about 'outdated' coaching, and 'new NHL' coaching (load of BS), when we can see that defensive systems is what mostly has won cups, in the post, and pre-cap era. Offensive system teams like Washington and San Jose have always crash and burned in the playoffs against better defensive teams.

But yeah, we should really take ONE regular season game as the undisputed full measuring yardstick as to which system is the best. As misguided as the poster himself.

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I took the over in this game ... which means it'll be a boring trappy 2 goal game

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Don't bother with him, he's to Jacques Martin what HalakRulz is to Carey Price.


Also, what he fails to understand is that Boucher's offensive system gets smashed into bits by a defensive system once in the playoffs. It happened in the CHL, it happened in the AHL, and it will happen again in the NHL.

He talks all high and mighty about 'outdated' coaching, and 'new NHL' coaching (load of BS), when we can see that defensive systems is what mostly has won cups, in the post, and pre-cap era. Offensive system teams like Washington and San Jose have always crash and burned in the playoffs against better defensive teams.

But yeah, we should really take ONE regular season game as the undisputed full measuring yardstick as to which system is the best. As misguided as the poster himself.
ozy! ozy! ozy! ozy!

but but 1 sample is the whole population...

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Don't bother with him, he's to Jacques Martin what HalakRulz is to Carey Price.


Also, what he fails to understand is that Boucher's offensive system gets smashed into bits by a defensive system once in the playoffs. It happened in the CHL, it happened in the AHL, and it will happen again in the NHL.

He talks all high and mighty about 'outdated' coaching, and 'new NHL' coaching (load of BS), when we can see that defensive systems is what mostly has won cups, in the post, and pre-cap era. Offensive system teams like Washington and San Jose have always crash and burned in the playoffs against better defensive teams.

But yeah, we should really take ONE regular season game as the undisputed full measuring yardstick as to which system is the best. As misguided as the poster himself.
Hawks say , "HELLO"

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I can't see us winning tonight.. Tampa is better on paper.. including the coach.

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What will be better? NHL Center Ice or RDS for this game? Or will CI just show RDS'?

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What will be better? NHL Center Ice or RDS for this game? Or will CI just show RDS'?
IF TB doesnt broadcast, then probably RDS feed

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Hawks say , "HELLO"

Carolina, Pittsburg, Detroit (4 times), Anaheim, New Jersey (3), Dallas say hi.

Note : Pittsburg turned the fold when Blysma came in with a better defensive system than Therrien.

Don't confuse a packed team with the system they play (not surprising you'd do that). Tell me, was it the offensive system that made them win, or more the fact that they had an over the cap team filled to the brim on all of offense, defense and goaltending?

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ozy! ozy! ozy! ozy!

but but 1 sample is the whole population...
This

Ironic as it comes from a user called Mathman...

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Hawks say , "HELLO"
Damn, you already had the answer from someone else... (see CrazyNines's post)


Sooner or later, Boucher is gonna add some defensive orientation to his game, as he will see that the AHL and CHL are far less defensive than the NHL is. I'll hope he'll be with the Habs by then, because IMO that's when his team (anyone of them) will be able to go further than being eliminated by a defensive team everytime and will do a lot more damage.

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It's free for the next ten days or so...
I tried to setup on nhl.com for tonight's game, but it says that its a blackout game. Is there anyway around this?

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