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10-14-2010, 10:12 AM
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No, I just took the names of the remaining centers on the roster that weren't locked on the 2nd and 3rd lines or injured like Christensen.

Boyle is highly unlikely so you have to assume its Drury, with a very small chance of Todd White.
Sorry, I just got scared thinking about that. I like Boyle, but can you imagine him trying to keep up with Gabby?

I don't know if they can use White there at this point. If you do that, then you have to sit Boyle, and play Drury on the 4th line.

We'll know soon, but really there's no way Drury isn't centering the top line if Torts wants to keep the 2nd and third lines together.

I'd rather Stepan play there with Drury centering Avery and Fedotenko.

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10-14-2010, 10:14 AM
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That is my feeling. I can't see why Torts "has no idea" if Drury will play first line if he knows he wants to keep the Stepan line intact.

BTW; like Christensen Drury will probably only play there for even strength, while Stepper will get PP time with the Gaborik unit which; if anyone has noticed, has become the 2nd unit separate from MDZ.

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10-14-2010, 10:20 AM
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That is my feeling. I can't see why Torts "has no idea" if Drury will play first line if he knows he wants to keep the Stepan line intact.

BTW; like Christensen Drury will probably only play there for even strength, while Stepper will get PP time with the Gaborik unit which; if anyone has noticed, has become the 2nd unit separate from MDZ.
i agree about stepan on the PP

i think that will be the first unit, genrerally speaking, but the other one was pretty hot at the time so Gabby was on the "second unit" that night

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10-14-2010, 10:20 AM
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Guys, use some common sense. You have to take what Torts says to the media with a grain of salt. Just because he says he doesn't want to disrupt the 2nd and 3rd lines doesn't mean he won't. The first line center on Friday will be Drury or Stepan...most likely Drury because it won't disrupt anything else. If not, Stepan will be playing on the first line and Drury on the 3rd...its pretty obvious that Torts likes Stepan and he has already shown that he can handle that role.

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10-14-2010, 10:23 AM
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i agree about stepan on the PP

i think that will be the first unit, genrerally speaking, but the other one was pretty hot at the time so Gabby was on the "second unit" that night
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That is my feeling. I can't see why Torts "has no idea" if Drury will play first line if he knows he wants to keep the Stepan line intact.

BTW; like Christensen Drury will probably only play there for even strength, while Stepper will get PP time with the Gaborik unit which; if anyone has noticed, has become the 2nd unit separate from MDZ.

Which is why I further don't understand why Stepan isn't just inserted there at even strength as well.

That first line has been brutal through two games.

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10-14-2010, 10:37 AM
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No, of having to play with Chris Drury, who's even worse.
Drury worse than Christensen? LOL. Thanks man, I needed a laugh this morning.

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10-14-2010, 10:45 AM
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Drury worse than Christensen? LOL. Thanks man, I needed a laugh this morning.
Not as an overall hockey player, but as far as role is concerned.

Do you think it's a coincidence that EC was centering the top line?

It's about role, I'm not talking about being a better hockey player.

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Not as an overall hockey player, but as far as role is concerned.

Do you think it's a coincidence that EC was centering the top line?

It's about role, I'm not talking about being a better hockey player.
No way to quantify this, but I would bet you that if Drury spent the entire season between Gaborik and Frolov, including PP time, he would outproduce Christensen from an offensive standpoint.

And I will never be one to say that Drury is, or ever really was, an extremely talented offensive center - but geez, Erik Christensen is a pure garbage hockey player that fell ass-first into a nice situation.

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Probably not a good sign for Mike Sauer that Todd White is D partner in drills

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10-14-2010, 11:00 AM
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No way to quantify this, but I would bet you that if Drury spent the entire season between Gaborik and Frolov, including PP time, he would outproduce Christensen from an offensive standpoint.

And I will never be one to say that Drury is, or ever really was, an extremely talented offensive center - but geez, Erik Christensen is a pure garbage hockey player that fell ass-first into a nice situation.
Because Drury's never been given a chance to produce in an offensive role since he's been here right?

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Because Drury's never been given a chance to produce in an offensive role since he's been here right?
He has had a 25 and a 22 goal season here, both of which would have been good for 2nd on the team last year.

People act like he has been stagnant offensively ever since signing here.

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Probably not a good sign for Mike Sauer that Todd White is D partner in drills
If we take out Sauer to pair Eminger with Gilroy, I question whether our coaching staff is watching the same games I am.


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10-14-2010, 11:10 AM
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He has had a 25 and a 22 goal season here, both of which would have been good for 2nd on the team last year.

People act like he has been stagnant offensively ever since signing here.
That's relevant this season because?

It comes down to one of two things:

Do you think Drury has lost it offensively?

Or do you think our head coach is clueless?

Because if he thought at any point last year, or before the season started that Chris Drury was capable of centering the top line, it would've been done.

We'll see what happens if he gets a chance.

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Can I reiterate? NO MORE EMINGER!

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If we take out Sauer to pair Eminger with Gilroy, I question whether our coaching staff is watching the same games I am.

Would this really be the first questionable move this coaching staff has made before?

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10-14-2010, 11:17 AM
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Because Drury's never been given a chance to produce in an offensive role since he's been here right?
Not much of one, no. Jagr didnt want to play with a right-handed center his first 2 seasons here, and he still put up respectable totals of 58 and 56 points - doing most of his damage on the PP.

Last season, he was quite clearly given a defensive role and performed in that role admirably.

Since when did Erik Christensen become any sort of playmaker? The sooner they cut him, the better as far as Im concerned.

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10-14-2010, 11:20 AM
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Probably not a good sign for Mike Sauer that Todd White is D partner in drills
Jeez... Staal has played worse than Sauer (obviously different roles). I find it hard to believe that of all the poor defensive play since the first preseason game and on, Sauer has stood out as the big liability to the coaching staff. MDZ has been a nightmare. Eminger has been terrible. Sauer has been steadier and at the very least shown potential. Well whatever. I guess they feel they have to do something about the atrocious D. And there really isn't a whole lot beyond crazy desperate grasping for straws that can be done.

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10-14-2010, 11:21 AM
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Not much of one, no. Jagr didnt want to play with a right-handed center his first 2 seasons here, and he still put up respectable totals of 58 and 56 points - doing most of his damage on the PP.

Last season, he was quite clearly given a defensive role and performed in that role admirably.

Since when did Erik Christensen become any sort of playmaker? The sooner they cut him, the better as far as Im concerned.
I'm not a huge Christensen fan, but when he actually shows his talent it's easy to see why he's given a chance.

His problem is it's wayyy too few and far between.

Basically what you're saying is Torts doesn't know how to utilize players, because he had a guy who showed some production and then screwed him badly last year.

And that, I can't disagree with.

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10-14-2010, 11:34 AM
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That's relevant this season because?

It comes down to one of two things:

Do you think Drury has lost it offensively?

Or do you think our head coach is clueless?

Because if he thought at any point last year, or before the season started that Chris Drury was capable of centering the top line, it would've been done.

We'll see what happens if he gets a chance.
From the Tortorella appreciation thread, I think you know where I stand. This is the same guy that has Sauer and Todd White paired in defensive drills today, right?

The fact that Drury got next to no power play time last year was a real head scratcher.

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10-14-2010, 11:37 AM
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If we take out Sauer to pair Eminger with Gilroy, I question whether our coaching staff is watching the same games I am.

ugh, bright side is to start the year we thought Sauer would be the odd man out but he played. Lets hope its just a look and we see Gilroy and Sauer

White on D eh, interesting. Weird but interesting

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ugh, bright side is to start the year we thought Sauer would be the odd man out but he played. Lets hope its just a look and we see Gilroy and Sauer

White on D eh, interesting. Weird but interesting
ugh shoot me, zipay confirms its Emminger and Gilroy for Friday

For some reason they want a vet on the Left side

can we just trade for someone on that side already?

They wont bring up McD or Valentenko for a while I am sure

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10-14-2010, 11:46 AM
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You're right Torts. Sauer was the problem on friday, not Eminger.


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10-14-2010, 11:50 AM
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I personally think its an attempt by torts to see if he can get anything out of Eminger by giving him a chance to play.. i think he will get cut soon when he proves he is useless. The kids will be here in a couple games, eminger will not. Lets all relax.

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and so it begins.

sauer first 2 games. quietly effective.

eminger first 2 games. weaksauce.

gilroy in camp. sketchy.

gilroy and eminger playing friday.

hockeys different here.


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10-14-2010, 11:55 AM
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You're right Torts. Sauer was the problem on friday, not Eminger.

Actually, Del Zotto was the biggest problem on the backend. I actually dont think Eminger was nearly as bad as some are making him out to be. Just another veteran defenseman pinata, I guess.

They tried to put Sauer on the left side and he kind of got lost which led to the game winning goal against the Islanders. Overall though, i thought he played a pretty solid game otherwise.

Welcome to accountability alla Torts.

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