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10-13-2010, 07:16 PM
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Being honest, I would highly think about Gagner and MSP for Carter...

Gagner is only 21 and has 131 points in 223 games.

MSP is 19, and has looked pretty good in the preseason and not to bad in the first 2 games.

Gagner has a 2.27 mil caphit while MSP has a 1.5 (with bonus).

This would allow us to resign Giroux and if Leino does well him also. Gagner is 5'11 so he isnt to small. MPS is 6'3 so he isnt small at all.

I would be right on the edge of accepting it.



Just say if we did it today:

JVR-Richards-MSP
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Zherdev-Gagner-Giroux
Carcillo-Betts-Powe

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10-13-2010, 07:18 PM
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Magnus Paajarvi Sveenson (sp?)

He's just changed his name to Paajarvi, but that's been his nickname among Oiler fans.
Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson is a beast. I'd love either of Taylor Hall, MPS, or Eberle on the Flyers. I envy the Oilers in that regard. Sick prospects!

He shortened it to Magnus Paajarvi for the NHL. He also has a brother Bjorn Svensson who plays for Timra.

His fathers surname is Svensson and his mothers is Paajarvi. I'm surprised each brother picked a different one. His bio says his parents are divorced though, so I see the reasoning.

EDIT: Oh, and I am a Carter fan, but I would certainly consider Gagner and MPS for Carter. I'd probably do it too.

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10-14-2010, 08:27 AM
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Wouldn't do that first deal, but I'd do the Carter for Gagner/MPS. I'm a big fan of Gagner and I think he could really light it up in Philly if he isn't being relied on to be the top scorer.

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10-14-2010, 10:03 AM
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I still think if Leino doesn't do as well as we think he will, he won't be back.
Or Zherdev...lots of if's, thus why Homer seems to be pushing to a win at all costs this year.

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10-14-2010, 11:14 AM
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The only thing that comes to mind from this trade is Hemsky-Carter.

Perhaps a match made in heaven.

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10-14-2010, 11:45 AM
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I would do Carter for MPS and Gagner, but only in the offseason.

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10-14-2010, 11:48 AM
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Carter for Hall Eberle MPS.

Get it done Homer.

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10-14-2010, 11:58 AM
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Carter for Hall Eberle MPS.

Get it done Homer.
You can't really think they'd do that?

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10-14-2010, 12:02 PM
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Carter for Hall Eberle MPS.

Get it done Homer.
Why would the Oilers do that? No way the Oilers deal all 3 of their young guns.

Then again, with the crap that's happened this summer, hopefully Holmgren can harness his karma and blow us all away with something like this.

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10-14-2010, 12:17 PM
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Carter for Hall Eberle MPS.

Get it done Homer.
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Why would the Oilers do that? No way the Oilers deal all 3 of their young guns.

Then again, with the crap that's happened this summer, hopefully Holmgren can harness his karma and blow us all away with something like this.
Feel glad you guys are not in a keeper fantasy hockey league with the kid. He sends trade proposals almost daily.

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10-14-2010, 01:01 PM
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Feel glad you guys are not in a keeper fantasy hockey league with the kid. He sends trade proposals almost daily.
Hah, well, in his defense, there's no harm in asking

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10-14-2010, 01:32 PM
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Not sure why people are so down on this trade. I doubt the Oilers wold do it. Why would the Oilers trade away part of the core future of their team (MPS/Gagner) + others for one good player and a walking interference call? More importantly, why wouldn't the Flyers take on two very young very promising players for one player who really only had one season that is any better than anything Gagner ever put up? Throw in a solid player like Cogliano and it is a no brainer for the Flyers to take this deal. I'm not trying to harsh on Carter or on Hartnell, but Gagner and MPS have equal if not higher ceilings than Carter and Hartnell isn't much better, if he even is at all, than Cogliano. Khabiboulin (sp) is worthless though. I'd rather have Deslauries.

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10-14-2010, 01:36 PM
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You can't really think they'd do that?
I should have put the sarcasm smiley, I guess.

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10-14-2010, 02:13 PM
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Carter for Hall Eberle MPS.

Get it done Homer.
Yeah, right. We all know Carter isn't even worth Kaberle straight up!







(Do I really need to add ?)

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10-14-2010, 03:53 PM
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I should have put the sarcasm smiley, I guess.
Jesus, you would of thought some people would of got it lol.

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10-14-2010, 06:18 PM
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Jesus, you would of thought some people would of got it lol.

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10-14-2010, 07:35 PM
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10-14-2010, 08:46 PM
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easy pass, think about it the flyers are trying to WIN THIS YEAR, what the hell do we want with a bunch of guys who are nowhere near their prime yet? mps is a helluva player but he is not ready to step in and replace a guy with 40-goal capability right away.

even beyond the age mismatch here, personnel wise it is awful. i do not like the way many flyers fan overstate our crowded center situation when three of our guys are very capable wingers. that is not a liability, that is an asset, it's called versatility and carter (along with giroux and briere) is a part of it. gagner and cogliano are not capable wingers or goal scorers. this would give us a REAL log jam at center and that is a best-case scenario because it would mean both guys played well enough to stick with a good NHL team (for a change).

i dont know where you read there was interest in bulin but there is none. anywhere. in the nhl. maybe not on earth. he has a terrible contract. he is old. he is coming off a month in jail. he is about as desirable in the hockey world as allen iverson in the basketball world right now.

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10-14-2010, 08:47 PM
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Being honest, I would highly think about Gagner and MSP for Carter...

Gagner is only 21 and has 131 points in 223 games.

MSP is 19, and has looked pretty good in the preseason and not to bad in the first 2 games.

Gagner has a 2.27 mil caphit while MSP has a 1.5 (with bonus).

This would allow us to resign Giroux and if Leino does well him also. Gagner is 5'11 so he isnt to small. MPS is 6'3 so he isnt small at all.

I would be right on the edge of accepting it.



Just say if we did it today:

JVR-Richards-MSP
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Zherdev-Gagner-Giroux
Carcillo-Betts-Powe
reasonable but i would consider it if i knew carter was trying to be a mercenary this offseason which seems unlikely given all the circumstances. if he were heading for UFA and had never had a big contract, yes, i'd do it in a heartbeat, as it is, no probably not.

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10-16-2010, 01:07 AM
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i'd do this trade in a heartbeat, however since your willing to do this, why don't you throw in Hall and Eberle and we'll throw in Carcillo and Walker. Seriously though I was thinking Edm would be a good team to trade with because of their abundance of young guns and our cap trouble next summer

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10-16-2010, 02:06 AM
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Damn Hemsky setting up one timers for Carter.

I'd consider Gagner and Paajarvi for Carter and 1st or something.

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10-16-2010, 05:03 AM
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Carter as one-timer threat, hahah

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10-16-2010, 07:45 AM
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Damn Hemsky setting up one timers for Carter.

I'd consider Gagner and Paajarvi for Carter and 1st or something.
Flyers will not add 1st in this deal. No freaking way.

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10-16-2010, 10:29 AM
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Flyers will not add 1st in this deal. No freaking way.
Maybe if they can get Kaberle and throw him in...

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10-16-2010, 01:38 PM
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Armchair GMing I may pull the trigger on it.

Hartnell is terrible. He takes stupid penalties and loses games. I've lost all hope for him. He also seems to have a problem skating. He's falling down constantly. Also, he can't pass. I can't be the only one who wonders wtf he's doing every shift. Wow. He hit someone after a bad pass. Ah, he fell down again. Okay, looks like he's angry. Viola! A penalty.

And Carter plays so small it is almost as shameful as his pathetic cowboy goal celebrations. 36 goals from Carter and dumping Hartnell for those prospects and dumping a ton of salary?

It is at least making me itch the trigger.

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