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10-16-2010, 10:15 AM
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10-16-2010, 10:28 AM
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Yeah, there's a pretty big range of possible shoulder problems.

Chiming in with our own anecdotes means absolutely nothing when it comes to Gaborik's injury, but hey I'll chip in one if it makes people feel better.

I was playing frisbee on a frozen field, slipped while running and landed on my left shoulder outstretched, felt a bunch of pain, sat up and felt it pop back into place (didn't feel it come out). Hurt like a ***** for a day or two. In two weeks it was pretty much back to normal and 3-4 it was probably fine.

Pretty sure whatever happened to Gaborik wasn't nearly that bad.

On the other hand, the shoulder isn't quite the same as it used to be. It's as strong and all but it can feel a little off in certain positions. On the other, other hand, I didn't go to a doctor so who knows!

At any rate, a diagnoses of 2-3 weeks may not be off base dependinig on what really happened, and we certainly don't know for sure what happened yet.

Also, this is probably the best time for Gaborik to be out if it had to happen. This early in the season, plenty of guys are still scoring (Dubinsky, Boyle, etc). Goals are easier to come by early in the season, so this is as good a time as any to rely on the secondary scorers
A separation isn't really the same as a dislocation. Although the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, a separation is actually a sprain of the ligaments around the AC joint, not the joint popping out. Happened to me once from a skiing fall. I landed on my shoulder and the force pulled my arm/shoulder down. I thought I broke my collar bone again, but structurally my shoulder was still intact. Unfortunately I sprained the **** out of all the all the ligaments up there. It can heal up quickly, Just as a wrist or ankle sprain can, or it can take a long time – sometimes even requiring surgery.

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A shoulder separation is not truly an injury to the shoulder joint. The injury actually involves the acromioclavicular joint (also called the AC joint). The AC joint is where the collarbone (clavicle) meets the highest point of the shoulder blade (acromion).
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00033

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10-16-2010, 10:31 AM
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Not surprised, not worried. You had to believe that when Gabo was signed to a 5-year deal this was going to happen eventually. In fact, it's a minor injury and considering the length of time he's out..it's really not that big of a deal.

The fact that it comes at the helm of a re-injured Drury after 2 periods of play and expected news of Prospal's possibly demise as a Ranger is the killer. Also that we've been playing horrendous and our defense is ****.

Aside from a rookie's lucky 3-goal first nhl game, we've done nothing spectacular this season except score more goals. But, at the expense of giving up more goals.

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10-16-2010, 10:42 AM
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I already hate the whole team. That was quick.
My thoughts exactly. Can't say I'm surprised at all though.

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10-16-2010, 10:46 AM
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Aside from a rookie's lucky 3-goal first nhl game, we've done nothing spectacular this season except score more goals. But, at the expense of giving up more goals.
I wouldn't say Stepan was lucky with those 3 goals...

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I knew sooner or later the injury bug would hit this team...Theyve been extremely fortunate the past, what, 10 years?

Now dont flame me or anything, im just being honest - but IMO, and this could just be me and thats fine, but its how i feel - Gaborik is one of the biggest p ussies in the NHL. He is a GREAT player, dont get me wrong. But hes weak, and it seems like every game hes grimacing and uncomfortable, even with the tiniest hits. Im not saying he is healthy or faking an injury (theres no reason to do that), but that wasnt a huge hit, it was a push from behind. Granted - it may have caught him in the right spot - but i can guarnatee you if he had half the injuries Cally or even Rozy has sustained in the past he would be out constantly.

Tell me this - how do you separate your shoulder and then stay on the ice for an entire PP and then go back to the bench and grimace in pain like your were shot? I had a grade one separation of my shoulder in college and finished out a game, the adrenaline alone will get you through, its the next day and week when its sore. I dont want to compare what i went through in college to the NHL, but i couldnt help it when I saw a play that was less serious then what happened to me. I know im probably the minority, but i know some people agree with me. Its not completely about this injury either, its about every little thing we seem him go through. Again - fantastic player, but please Gaborik - grow a pair.

Forget this team going deep in the playoffs with Gaborik leading it - He wont be there to. Not in a war of attrition. Hell be the first to go down. We knew this when we signed him - so im not surprised.


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10-16-2010, 11:21 AM
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gaborik has been non existent so far any way and weve been playing good hockey offensively.

I assume our second line now becomes our first. and 3rd to second and then throwing fro on the third

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gaborik has been non existent so far any way and weve been playing good hockey offensively.

I assume our second line now becomes our first. and 3rd to second and then throwing fro on the third
See this is the problem. Gaborik gets matched up against the other team's best defensemen and top line, night in and night out, regardless of whether he is producing. They can now play their top guys against what has been our best line, our second line. Even if Gaborik is not producing, the impact of his loss will be felt.

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10-16-2010, 11:34 AM
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I knew sooner or later the injury bug would hit this team...Theyve been extremely fortunate the past, what, 10 years?

Now dont flame me or anything, im just being honest - but IMO, and this could just be me and thats fine, but its how i feel - Gaborik is one of the biggest p ussies in the NHL. He is a GREAT player, dont get me wrong. But hes weak, and it seems like every game hes grimacing and uncomfortable, even with the tiniest hits. Im not saying he is healthy or faking an injury (theres no reason to do that), but that wasnt a huge hit, it was a push from behind. Granted - it may have caught him in the right spot - but i can guarnatee you if he had half the injuries Cally or even Rozy has sustained in the past he would be out constantly.

Tell me this - how do you separate your shoulder and then stay on the ice for an entire PP and then go back to the bench and grimace in pain like your were shot? I had a grade one separation of my shoulder in college and finished out a game, the adrenaline alone will get you through, its the next day and week when its sore. I dont want to compare what i went through in college to the NHL, but i couldnt help it when I saw a play that was less serious then what happened to me. I know im probably the minority, but i know some people agree with me. Its not completely about this injury either, its about every little thing we seem him go through. Again - fantastic player, but please Gaborik - grow a pair.

Forget this team going deep in the playoffs with Gaborik leading it - He wont be there to. Not in a war of attrition. Hell be the first to go down.
Interesting thoughts.... but Gaborik is a superstar when healthy.. I guess the team would have to deal with this type of issue.... I seem to remember Jagr always hamming it with injuries, bumps/bruises and etc... Even Lemieux was kind of like this also... no?

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He is a GREAT player, dont get me wrong. But hes weak, and it seems like every game hes grimacing and uncomfortable, even with the tiniest hits.
It's bad, but every time he gets touched... I cringe. I am always expecting him to come up with the grimace, try to play, then skate off to the locker room.

It's unfortunate, but for whatever reason some guys are just injury prone, I guess.

Bleh. Not a great way to start the season.

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shouldn't there have been more outrage over this?

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Yeah, they're absolutely should have been. For some reason its okay though. Let me know if anyone finds out why.

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The title of this thread is misleading...

It should be:

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It's bad, but every time he gets touched... I cringe. I am always expecting him to come up with the grimace, try to play, then skate off to the locker room.

It's unfortunate, but for whatever reason some guys are just injury prone, I guess.

Bleh. Not a great way to start the season.
Not saying they're in the same class, but I have the same reaction every time Martinek is on the ice. You're almost surprised these guys made it to this level with how often they get hurt. Really annoying.

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FORWARDS
Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Todd White ($2.375m) / MZA ($1.750m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m)/ Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.000m)
Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)

Injured dtd
Erik Christensen ($0.925m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Steve Eminger ($1,125m) ($0.763m) / Mike Sauer ($0.500m)
/ Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)

GOALTENDERS
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $44,170,667; BONUSES: $3,000,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $15,230,333

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10-16-2010, 12:48 PM
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1 down 1 up Gaborik and Drury, works out pretty even. lol. Seriously though i would love someone to have kicked Armstrongs ass after the run he took at Gaborik. With all due respect though Gaborik is an injury waiting to happen, which is unfortunate but true. Good time too see what other guys are willing to do for the next month or two. One more thing Bring Kennedy up, and i bet he will be top 3 forwards for the next several games. Dont have any idea why he didnt start on the roster.

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Torts saying that Drury is really upset at being injured again (via all the beat writers on twitter)

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I wouldn't say Stepan was lucky with those 3 goals...
He wasent lucky but lets say that if he reaches 10 goals this year i'd be very suprised. He lacks speed for the NHL and strength.

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He wasent lucky but lets say that if he reaches 10 goals this year i'd be very suprised. He lacks speed for the NHL and strength.

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He wasent lucky but lets say that if he reaches 10 goals this year i'd be very suprised. He lacks speed for the NHL and strength.
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Hey guys. I have a question. I didn't see the game and don't feel like searching for the answer lol. Has it been said whether or not Drury re-breaking his finger was the result of coming back too early? How did he do it?

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