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10-16-2010, 09:07 AM
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Is now the time to try Gilroy at Forward?

I think now would be the perfect time to move Gilroy up to RW and see what he could do...they got nothing to lose and they may as well since they wanna keep playing Eminger...how bout something like this...

Dubi-Anisimov-Cally
Frolov- Stepan- Gilroy
Avery-Boyle- Feds
Boogaard-EC- Prust

Then they could call up McD/Vtank to play with Sauer on the 3rd pairing.

What do you think?

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10-16-2010, 09:15 AM
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One single word: Why? Why should we play Gilroy instead of players who actually play forward?

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10-16-2010, 09:23 AM
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I think it is..

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10-16-2010, 09:34 AM
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I think it is..
I just don't think he's a good enough Dman. He could get waived and learn to play Forward at the AHL

I rather see that cause I don't think he should be playing right now

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10-16-2010, 09:35 AM
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I got killed for bringing this up a little while ago.

He was a career forward till he got to BU. At the college level his defensive mistakes were covered up by his offensive potential and skating ability. That aint happening here. If he's got experience with the position, it's not a doomsday senario to give it a try imo.

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10-16-2010, 09:36 AM
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Wouldn't be opposed to it at all. My only issue with Gilroy playing as a forward is that he just doesn't seem to have much of a shot - his wristers are generally pretty weak. That said, I saw absolutely nothing of him before he signed with us.

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10-16-2010, 09:45 AM
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I think it's time we try a permanent stay in Hartford for him. He's effective in no way whatsoever, offensively or defensively. He's too feeble to play defense and too feeble to play offense. I just don't see him as an NHL player anymore.

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10-16-2010, 09:51 AM
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umm why? How about hell no! Send Gilroy and/or Eminger down to the A.. Bring up Valentenko and plug Sauer back in. Call up an ACTUAL forward to play. MZA comes to mind.

Frolov EC MZA
Dubi Anisimov Cally
Avery Stepan Feds
Boogie Boyle Prust

Staal Rosie
Girardi MDZ
Valentenko Sauer

Its a young, hungry squad and you dont flip around alot of the lines that have worked so far. Keeps the 2nd and 3rd line intact that have been producing unlike the first line.

The defense although young, is better than anything we have. Sauer has played very well in his time up here and Valentenko shouldve been up here to begin with. Gilroy is a waste and Eminger just flat out sucks. Eminger should stay as the 7th dman and gilroy needs to be sent to the "A" in order to actually LEARN to play defense.

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10-16-2010, 10:13 AM
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I wouldn't mind it, but I'd rather see the chance go to our real forwards we have in the system.

I was at the game last night and Gilroy looked atrocious out there. I like Gilly but actually found myself screaming through the crowd "Send him down!" after a brutal turnover. Good guy, but I'm not sure we should really have a place for him on our team anymore to be quite honest.

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10-16-2010, 10:55 AM
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He's soft and indecisive with the puck. He's not positionally sound and overall has not had a good start to the 2010-2011 season both pre-season and 1st game last night.

However, he does have speed and skill and until the last 5+ years, he has been a forward.

Prior to using any additional cap space with a call up, lets see what he can do at forward.

This way, when we shed ourselves of the player, we can truly say that we tried just about everything we could to fit him in.

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10-16-2010, 11:00 AM
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I think it's time to try Gilroy at Hartford.

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He sure doesn't look like an NHL defenseman so I guess it couldn't hurt.

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I think it may be better to just call up a winger from Hartford.

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10-16-2010, 11:03 AM
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Is Gilroy, if we move him to forward, going to score more than MZA or Grachev if we call them up? I doubt it.

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I think it's time to try Gilroy at Hartford.
+1

for an older prospect this guy looks lost in the D zone.

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10-16-2010, 11:34 AM
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two things
1. you try Gilroy as a forward now, you lose the possibility of him ever being a defenseman in his future.
2. I just personally think Gilroy isn't an NHL caliber player at all. I never understood why we signed him. He was a good college player, but also one older and more developed than all the players around him during college.

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10-16-2010, 12:21 PM
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I think its plain and simple that the kid isn't an NHL defensemen. He always seems out of position and clearly wants to do more offensively... I don't see how it could hurt us anymore lol.

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Yes.

He doesn't possess the fundamentals that every defenseman should have. And he's already 26 so I fear it may be too late for him to develop such fundamentals.

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For those of you who actually want to give this scrub a chance at forward.. WTF are you thinking!?! Thank god you guys arent the coach or the gm. Send him down to the minors and get rid of his atrocious caphit. The kid cant play defense PERIOD, has a horrible shot, has no vision, and just plain sucks.

How bout we give an actual forward from hartford a shot to make the team like MZA, Grachev, or someone else. Keep the forward lines as is and plug in EC and MZA with frolov and hopefully we can survive and see what we have in MZA and EC.

Dubi Ani Cally
Frolov EC MZA
Avery Stepan Feds
Boogie Boyle Prust

Rosie Staal
Girardi MDZ
Sauer Valentenko

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10-16-2010, 01:45 PM
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There have been defensemen that blossom late and become great players, Torts has coached a soft skilled defenseman that Gilroy shares a similar skill set with as well as playing style, they are both very mobile skaters, and slow developers coming out of college. That players name is Dan Boyle, who was once waiver fodder and traded for a 5th round pick. It took Dan Boyle a while to make adjustments and become the player he is today, but he too at one point was a 'soft skilled' defenseman at one point.

I'm not saying or projecting Matt Gilroy to get to that point, but Boyle's play got better and better until it clicked and became consistent. Once Boyle challenged the opposition whether physically through a hip check, or tying up their stick or taking away their options he became a dynamic force on the defensive side. With Matt these days he starts to challenge and then backs off. I think its unreasonable to expect Gilroy to throw his weight at anything that moves, but he should throw a hip check here and there (given his skating and speed, it would be a pretty hard hit), tie up a guys stick, sweep check, and close lanes and angles off at the blueline or nuetral zone to be a great defenseman. He can handle the puck well, and skate well, if Matt can be the defensman that leads a counter transition attack we would all love him.

That starts by creating a turnover or just merely stopping the guy skating at him. Whether he gets it or not is up to Matt himself, unfortunately he plays a defensive game that was similar to Bret Hedican's or Don Sweeney's at the end of their careers (IE not initiating contact, and skating towards and retreating, by doing that he only takes away their space but gives them enough time to make a play, and not create a turnover for the team).

I think that is the sort of defensive adjustments that Torts and the coaching staff want from him. Not just simply to throw his weight around, but rather be dynamic in defending oncoming opposition. It is a lot to ask, but the defensemen that play in a similar vein to Matt Gilroy, Range from the Brett Lebda's to Marek Zidlicky's to the Dan Boyles of the world. We still don't know what he can really do or not, but as a fan I really hope he gets 'it'.

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If Gilroy is tried at forward, his career in the NHL is over.

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If Gilroy is tried at forward, his career in the NHL is over.
lol, i'm pretty sure it never started, lol

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lol, i'm pretty sure it never started, lol
lol im pretty sure he played 69 NHL games last year lol

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If Gilroy is tried at forward, his career in the NHL is over.
I'm pretty sure his only chance at NHL career will involve a move to forward, because he certainly isn't going to get anywhere playing defense.

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