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10-20-2010, 07:58 AM
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Coach Terry Crisp



Crisp was an excitable, emotional coach who went to war for his players and expected them to do the same for him. There are so many good coaches left, with comparable accomplishments, but after looking at everything Crisp did, both in and out of the NHL, he was the right choice for us.

- Stanley Cup (1989)
- Memorial Cup Finalist (1985)
- President's Trophy (1988, 1999)
- 3 Times top-3 in Adams award voting (2nd-1988, 3rd-1989, 3rd-1996)
- OHL Coach Of the Year (1983, 1985)
- Led Calgary to three straight division titles
- Guided Tampa Bay to a .425 win% through first 5 seasons, much better than most expansion franchises, and their first playoff berth (the only one they would have for seven more years)
- 286-267-78 in the regular season (.515)
- 24-19 in the playoffs (.556)
- 326-214-30 in Juniors and Minors (.598)
- One of only 14 people to have won the Cup as both player and head coach

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Coupling what he learned from Bowman with his observations of Shero gave him a terrific coaching foundation. "I learned from Scotty about discipline," Crisp explains. One man runs the ship and only one man can run it. Scotty ruled with an iron fist. He ruled with no-nonsense. He ruled with head games. So did Fred Shero, but their head games were different..."

... Still, though, Crisp learned so much from the likes of Bowman and Shero. "I used Scotty and Freddie's practice models throughout my coaching career," Crisp says now. "I just honed them to what a particular team needed and went from there."

... The Greyhound surged to 47–19–2 in crisps second year. By the time his six-year run as head coach there had ended, he had guided Sault Ste. Marie to three league championships and an impressive 249–149–12 record. "I chuckle when people ask me about my coaching style and its success," Crisp admits. "It's like asking me what kind of a horse jockey I would be. Put me up on secretariat and I would be one hell of a jockey. Put me up on a plow horse, and I'm going to be a really bad jockey."

"I look back on my six years there and think it was the best grounding I could've had as a head coach," Crisp explains. "Those kids taught me more than I could've learned anywhere else. Hockey end of it was easy in terms of the X's and O's. It's the social aspect of it that was the challenge."… His coaching style, a mix of his two mentors, evolved during those years in the OHL.

"My mandate when I got to Calgary was to get a ring. They wanted the Stanley Cup. The owners had all the money they wanted. They didn't care about first place. They didn't care about sold-out buildings. They wanted the Stanley Cup, pure and simple. If you're going to make an omelette, you're going to have to crack some eggs. I stepped on a lot of toes. I bruised a lot of egos. But I could never lose sight of the fact that I had to win the Stanley Cup."

"From a satisfaction standpoint, it is Cup I won as a coach that stands out. As a player all you worry about is yourself, your job is your responsibility. As a coach, you have to worry about 20 guys. You worry about your lineup, the teams attitude, the whole ballgame. That makes winning with that group very gratifying."

The next season, the flames were once again outstanding, falling just a couple points shy of a third straight presidents trophy. However, they were shocked in the first round of the playoffs by Wayne Gretzky's Los Angeles Kings. Crisp would get fired shortly thereafter. How can a coach who is had his team after were very near the top of the league for three straight years, including Stanley Cup triumph, be let go so quickly? It goes back to crisp's approach to the Calgary job. He was asked to win a cup. In driving the team to that goal, he was tough on some players. In the end, that dictated a shorter term as head coach.

"Everyone wants to have respect. You want respect from your coworkers and those around you. Coaches are no different. But respect is a two-way road. It ticks me off when I hear GM's say, the players no longer respect the coach, so we had to fire him. What do you mean, they lost respect for the coach? Because he was tough on them? Because he demanded they earn their pay? Because he demanded he get 60 min. of hockey out of them? Well you know what? There are a lot of players who I didn't always have a lot of respect for either. But I'm not allowed to say. So as a coach you can learn early on that it's not fair. Don't think you're going to go into a fair arena as a coach. You're not."

The fact that some of the players from his championship Calgary team probably, in his words, hate his guts, is a difficult realization for crisp. He would've loved to have them revere him the way the Flyers did Shero. However it was a different situation in Calgary. "Looking back at it, I wish some of the players that I pushed so hard back then had a better rapport with me now. I don't feel bad about how I treated them. It was necessary to achieve what we did. I'm not sure to this day that we would have been able to win it all if I had worried about developing that report. You walk a fine line."
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He was named Coach of the Year in the OHA in 1983-84 while with the Soo Greyhounds. Moving back to the NHL, Terry joined the Calgary Flames in 1987-88, and in his second NHL season as a head coach, he guided the Flames to the Stanley Cup. After three seasons in Calgary, Crisp was replaced behind the bench. In 1992-93, he was hired as head coach of the Tampa Bay Lightning. He was head coach from the franchise's inception through October of 1997, coaching 391 games - the most ever by an expansion coach. He also served as the assistant coach of the silver medal-winning Canadian team at the 1992 Winter Olympic Games in Albertville, France.

It's no wonder then why Terry Crisp is one of the most recognizable names when it comes to the hockey world!
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Now under the tutelage of new coach Terry Crisp — a straight-shooting ice general who had learned to be as mean as he needed to be when he won two Stanley Cups as a member of the Philadelphia Flyers in their Broad Street Bullies days...
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Terry Crisp, a candidate for several NHL coaching positions (snippet of pay article)
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Terry Crisp said he still is weighing job offers from the Tampa Bay Lightning and two other teams (snippet of pay article)
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Calgary goaltender Mike Vernon said Lightning coach Terry Crisp, who spent three years with the Flames (1987-90), has done a remarkable job with Tampa Bay (snippet of pay article)
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"Whenever you play a Terry Crisp team, you know they will always play hard and shoot a lot," Nordiques coach Pierre Page said... (snippet of pay article)
A great article that shows how Terry Crisp can rub some players who aren't as mentally strong or mature the wrong way, and how it would be a benefit to have an associate coach to smooth out these problems:

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Wednesday was the last day Tampa Bay GM Phil Esposito figured to be putting out fires in his dressing room. But, the morning after the Lightning got waxed by the Flyers in the first playoff game of team history, he ended up chairing a half-hour meeting with coach Terry Crisp, associate coach Wayne Cashman and Roman Hamrlik because the fourth-year defenseman had gone public with complaints about diminished ice time and Crisp's coaching methods.

Hamrlik is a huge fan of Cashman, who handled the defensemen in Hamrlik's early seasons and who plays "good cop" during Crisp's temper tantrums. But Crisp has been handling the whole bench lately, causing Hamrlik some discomfort.

"I feel better when 'Cash' coaches the defense. I feel more easy, more relieved," the Czech Republic native told the Tampa Tribune. "With Crispy, I know if I make a mistake or they score a goal he (Crisp is) going to yell at me and I'm going to sit on the bench more. . . . I try to do what Crispy wants: Shoot the puck off the boards or the glass. But I'm better when I pass and skate."

Esposito told Hamrlik if he doesn't like the coach, tough. And teammate ***** **** was incredulous at the fourth-year player's behavior.

"Some of these guys haven't got a clue what it could be like for them with other teams," said Shaw, who played for Esposito with the Rangers. "You play for a guy like Brian Sutter (in Boston), like I did, or a guy like Mike Keenan, now that's rough."

The Hamrlik situation bears watching. Crisp is at the end of his contract and is said to be a candidate for the Toronto job. Cashman, an outstanding hockey man well-respected in the Tampa dressing room, certainly deserves consideration for the Lightning spot if Crisp departs.
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Good for Terry Crisp. He gets the contract he wants and deserves. Good for Lightning fans: They get the coach they want and Tampa Bay deserves ...(snippet of pay article)
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Some Lightning players are harboring guilt that Terry Crisp was made to pay for their hockey sins. Lightning players expressed guilt, ... (snippet of pay article)


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10-20-2010, 08:05 AM
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Johnstown Jets select, head coach Bill Dineen



2 time Avco Cup champion: 73-74, 74-75
Avco Cup runner up: 75-76
2 time Calder Cup champion: 85-86, 88-89
2 time AHL Coach of the Year (Louis A.R. Pieri Memorial Award): 84-85, 85-86
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Dineen quickly established himself in his first season of coaching in the American Hockey League by leading the Red Wings to a 37-29-14 record, before losing a tough seven game series to the Maine Mariners in the first round of the Calder Cup Playoffs. In his second season Adirondack ended the season two games under 0.500, becoming the only team in the Red Wings 20-year history in Glens Falls not to make the playoffs; it was also the only Dineen-coached Adirondack squad with a losing record. He made up for it the next year as the team went 41-31-8 in the regular season and won the 1986 Calder Cup Championship four games to two over Hershey, the second title in franchise history. During the 1986-87 and 1987-88 seasons the Red Wings were a combined 32 games above 0.500, but bowed out of the playoffs in the second round each year. In his final season behind the bench, 1988-89, Dineen led the A-Wings to their best season in franchise history, going 47-27-6 (100 points) and winning the 1989 Calder Cup Championship four games to one over New Haven. After winning his second cup, Dineen left the bench and served as Adirondack’s general manager for the 1989-90 season.

In six seasons (1983-1989), Dineen was the Adirondack Red Wings head coach for 480 games, compiling a career record of 236-196-43-5 (0.542 winning pct.), holding the franchise records for games coached and all-time wins. In 63 career Calder Cup playoff games behind the bench, his record with the Red Wings was 36-21 (0.571), winning two championships (1986, 1989) and becoming one of just 12 coaches in AHL history to win more than one Calder Cup title. Dineen was twice named as the recipient of the Louis A.R. Pieri Memorial Award as the outstanding coach in the AHL (1984-85 & 1985-86); he is one of just two AHL coaches in league history to win that award in back-to-back seasons.


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Winnipeg Selects C Bill Clement

2X Stanley Cup Winner
NHL All-Star Game 1976 and 1978

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Queen's University select left winger Randy "Stump" Burridge, the impact performer in two Stanley Cup Final runs, leading the Bruins in assists by a winger in the 1988 postseason with 10 and scoring 11 assists in their 1990 Finals trip, 2nd most by a Bruins winger, most by a left winger. All in all, he scored a decent 52 playoff points and had 103 PIM in 107 postseason games. With the Bruins, he was a two time winner of the Seventh Player Award (performing above and beyond expectations), scoring two of his five career 20+ goal seasons in Boston as a real battler in the corners at both ends of the rink. He also earned the Elizabeth C. Dufresne Trophy in 1989 as the Bruins' home MVP. When he moved to Washington he immediately scored a career high 67 points in 66 games and played in the 1992 all-star game. His ongoing knee injuries, due in part to his all-out playing style, were ongoing and limited the number of games, yet he still put together another impact season in Buffalo, winning awards for his hard work and leadership.



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His first season as a Cap he scored 67 points in 66 games and played in the 1992 NHL All-Star Game


His first season in Buffalo he got the Tim Horton Memorial Award (Unsung Hero) as well as the Punch Imlach Memorial Award (Dedication and Leadership) in 1995–96.
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Johnstown Jets select, head coach Bill Dineen



2 time Avco Cup champion: 73-74, 74-75
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2 time Calder Cup champion: 85-86, 88-89
2 time AHL Coach of the Year (Louis A.R. Pieri Memorial Award): 84-85, 85-86
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Very good pick.

Counting the two coaches already selected, I think there are 15 good ones to choose from in the AAA draft. Dineen is definitely one of them.

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Winnipeg Selects C Bill Clement

2X Stanley Cup Winner
NHL All-Star Game 1976 and 1978
Never before selected... but I was hoping he would be. He's probably the best PK center left. Killed 48% of penalties for a team that took a lot of them, and averaged 11% on the happy side of the league PK average.

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Magnus Arvedson, LW



- 1998-99 Selker runner-up, finishing 10th and 16th on another two occassions
- adjusted career +/- of +95 in just over 400 games
- killed 35% of his teams' penalties, and was exceptionally good at it
- solid production of over 0.5 PPG to go with the defensive game

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Magnus Arvedson, LW



- 1998-99 Selker runner-up, finishing 10th and 16th on another two occassions
- adjusted career +/- of +95 in just over 400 games
- killed 35% of his teams' penalties, and was exceptionally good at it
- solid production of over 0.5 PPG to go with the defensive game
He's actually a really strong even strength scorer. 0.59 adjusted ES PPG puts him near the very top of all available players. He only was on the ice for 8% of his team's PP goals (and actually, he's the only available player anywhere near the top of the ES production list who didn't get at least 28% PP time)

He scored shorthanded as much as he did on the PP, to put it into perspective.

He often had very strong linemates, but so did most available players and he outshined most of them offensively in his short NHL career.

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Toledo selects C Stephane Yelle



1996 Stanley Cup Champion
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With the Avalanche, Yelle continued to improve on his checking and penalty killing skills. Strong on faceoffs and considered one of the premier defensive players in the league, injuries limited Yelle to 50 regular season games with Colorado in 2000-01, but he returned for the playoffs and contributed to the Avs' Stanley Cup victory at year's end. The Bourget, ON native played one more season in Colorado before being traded to the Calgary Flames prior to the 2002-03 season. Upon his arrival with the Flames, Yelle continued his strong play in his own end and was a key player in the team's drive to the 2004 Stanley Cup final.
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At times a brilliant defensive player, especially during his tenure with the Avalanche between 1995-96 and 2001-02, Yelle was the anchor of the third line that frustrated opponents and kept Patrick Roy on cruise control most of the time. Yelle was on both Cup-winning Avalanche teams and it was hard for most fans when he eventually left for Calgary.

He played 71 games in his rookie season with the Avs, scored 13 goals and 27 points, and the team went on to win the Stanley Cup. Though hardly an offensive standout during the playoffs, Yelle did tally 5 points in 22 games including a game-tying, unassisted short-handed goal as part of a 3-2 overtime win in game one of that infamous series between Colorado and the Detroit Red Wings.

In another standout playoff appearance, this time in 2001 as the Avalanche streaked to their second Stanley Cup, Yelle---despite only scoring 3 points in 23 games---scored a game-winning overtime goal against the St. Louis Blues, moving Colorado to 3-1 in a series they would win with another OT victory in the very next game.

Stephane Yelle never scored more than 27 total points in a season during his seven years with the Avalanche, but his legacy with the team was defined by his gritty, physical play. The prototypical workhorse, Yelle's entire NHL career has been marked by effortless skating, gutsy shot blocking, hard hits and on-ice discipline---the ultimate checking line center.
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But Yelle’s teams have a funny way of always being winners, and nobody disputes his PK credentials. The fact is, the Avs have been distinctly unimpressive of addressing this woeful area so far this offseason. They seem hellbent on adding every Hanson Brother-type player they can find, but not interested in finding a guy who can, you know, win a faceoff or get the puck and clear it when one of the Hansons are in the box. And the Avs, with their off-season signings so far, figure to be in the box plenty this coming year.


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There's the one guy who was probably a better PK forward than Clement.

Although their PK numbers are practically identical (Yelle was on for 41%, Clement 48%, Yelle's average PK% was 8% better than average, Clement was 11% better), Yelle did this for 172 more games, and I think he was a bigger part of his team's PK, whereas Clement's PK efficiency numbers are no doubt boosted by Clarke and Barber. But they are really close.

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There's the one guy who was probably a better PK forward than Clement.

Although their PK numbers are practically identical (Yelle was on for 41%, Clement 48%, Yelle's average PK% was 8% better than average, Clement was 11% better), Yelle did this for 172 more games, and I think he was a bigger part of his team's PK, whereas Clement's PK efficiency numbers are no doubt boosted by Clarke and Barber. But they are really close.
Very close, i'll give you that. Clement has the better offensive numbers. (The 2 all-star games are a good feather in his hat as well.)

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London will take another early era defenseman.

A hard-hitting and physical defenseman who was an important part of the Silver Seven dynasty, but his career was cut short by a badly broken leg. He was named to the 1905 unofficial all-sta team.

Arthur Moore

4 x Stanley Cup Champion (1903, 1904, 1905, 1906)
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Arthur Moore and Harvey Pulford on the defense simply refused to allow the Montreal anyways near Bouse Hutton. They bodychecked hard, and after the first few minutes Dickie Boon’s forwards were content to shoot at long range. Both lifted well too and kept their forwards well fed.
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Perhaps the defense of the Ottawa Stanley Cup holders is the best on the ice today, and the men in front of the goalkeeper are ; Pulford, point, and Moore, cover-point. Both strapping big men, they do not use boarding school methods to handle the enemy as it sweeps upon them… Moore can also accomplish a little body-checking on occasion. He, too, is no gentle lamb, and many a forward can show black and blue marks decorating his anatomy to prove it. But they both played fine hockey, lifting the puck well, and are effective working at all times. A formidable pair.
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Much regret has been expressed for Arthur Moore personally for serlous accident, while the effect of his absence on the team’s chances is forming of much anxiety among the fans.
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Arthur Moore is this year playing point for the team and doing better work than he formerly performed at cover. Cool, accurate lifting is his forte, but Moore is likewise a very dangerous man for opposing forwards to cope with. He is probably the fastest man with the Rough Riders and a few year ago was a defense player for the Capitals lacrosse team.
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London will take another early era defenseman.

A hard-hitting and physical defenseman who was an important part of the Silver Seven dynasty, but his career was cut short by a badly broken leg. He was named to the 1905 unofficial all-sta team.

Arthur Moore
soooo..... every player was important, then?

Not criticizing the pick, I'm sure he has as much merit as anyone right now. But if he was the least important member, could he be that important?

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soooo..... every player was important, then?

Not criticizing the pick, I'm sure he has as much merit as anyone right now. But if he was the least important member, could he be that important?
Who said he was the least important member? He's definately the least famous member, and that might mean he's the least important, but it doesn't neccissarily.

He was named as an ECAHA All-Star in 1905 for a reason.

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He is probably the fastest man with the Rough Riders and a few year ago was a defense player for the Capitals lacrosse team.
Are we sure the first part of this isn't a football reference?

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Well, someone doesn't like my pick...I'd like an explanation VI.


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Are we sure the first part of this isn't a football reference?
It is a football reference

I realize that running speed and skating speed aren't the same, but it does show that he wasn't just a big lug. He was a good, and fast athlete.


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Magnus Arvedson, LW



- 1998-99 Selker runner-up, finishing 10th and 16th on another two occassions
- adjusted career +/- of +95 in just over 400 games
- killed 35% of his teams' penalties, and was exceptionally good at it
- solid production of over 0.5 PPG to go with the defensive game
He had the best Selke record left I think (especially for a winger). I was looking at him because for that alone. But I dismissed him do to his really short career and generally horrible playoffs. Not sure if it's a good pick now or not, just not what I was looking for at the time.


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Who said he was the least important member? He's definately the least famous member, and that might mean he's the least important, but it doesn't neccissarily.

He was named as an ECAHA All-Star in 1905 for a reason.
As Dreak pointed out to me, this was the only named All-Star team of the era, and he made it.

Speaking of early era defensemen, please make Puss's profile already so I can link to it.

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RW Vlastimil Bubnik



T-2nd All-Time Points in Winter Olympics (tied with Kharlamov & Harry Watson)
IIHF Hall of Fame
1x Olympic Bronze Medalist
121 career goals in 127 games for Czech-Slovakian National Team
306 goals in 287 Czech Extraliga Games
Czech Hockey Hall of Fame Member
11x Czechslovakian Extraliga Champion
1x World Championships Best Forward ('63-64)
1x World Championships Most Goals ('54-55)
3x World Championship Medalist (2 Silver, 1 Bronze)
Captain of HC Kometa Brno for 12 straight seasons

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At the turn of the 1960s, this right winger, a native son of Kelč, belonged to the best European ice hockey players. Together with the national team, he has won altogether four medals at world ice hockey championships and the bronze medal at the Innsbruck Winter Olympics (1964) where he was the team`s captain. While in the national team, he has scored 121 goals. Also an excellent football player, he brought the bronze medal from the 1960 World Championship. Bubník played the majority of his ice hockey and football matches in Brno.
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With two men in the penalty box, the shorthanded Czechs somehow managed to shake loose Vlastimil Bubnik behind the US defense. Bubnik cleverly...
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His childhood idol growing up was Vlastimil Bubnik, a Czechoslovakian hockey star in the 1950's and 60's.
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Vlastimil Bubnik, the Czech star from the 1950s and 60s
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1954, WEC-A: Zabrodsky had 4 goals for the Czechs. Vlastimil Bubnik had 11, and a guy named xxx had 8. The Soviets made their first appearance at the worlds this year, and smoked the more experienced Czechs, 5-2. Bobrov, Shuvalov, and Guryshev (8, 7, 5) all outscored Zabrodsky despite their hockey program being in its relative infancy. Conclusion: Not impressive. Zabrodsky was well behind the leading scorers on his own team.

1955, WEC-A: Zabrodsky had 13 points for 2nd on the Czechs. Vlastimil Bubnik had 20.

1957: 33 goals, apparently led league, but four players with complete assist stats have more points. Bubnik had 35, Danda 34.

1958: 24 goals, apparently good for 2nd in league, but over half the league's stats are missing. Danda, Pantucek, Barton and Bubnik are known to have at least topped him.
-Vlastimil Bubnik in comparison to Vladimir Zabrodsky, credit to seventieslord

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rank name points
1. DOMINIK HAŠEK 472
2. JAROMÍR JÁGR 357
3. VLADIMÍR ZÁBRODSKÝ 240
4. VLADIMÍR MARTINEC 235
5. IVAN HLINKA 181
6. VLASTIMIL BUBNÍK 160
7. JAN SUCHÝ 154
8. JIŘÍ HOLÍK 136
9. JOSEF MALEČEK 121
10. VÁCLAV NEDOMANSKÝ 98
11. Jiří Holeček 97
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VLASTIMIL BUBNIK, the all-time points leader at the Winter Olympic Games, was a two-sport star for Czechoslovakia. Bubnik also played soccer, earning 11 caps and scoring 4 goals for his international football career over four years (1957-60). It was Bubnik who bagged the first goal in Czechoslovakia's 2-0 defeat of host nation France in the 3rd Place Match of the 1960 European Nations Cup in Marseille.

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No one in the history of modern ice hockey competition at the Winter Olympic Games has piled up more points than Czechoslovakia’s VLASTIMIL BUBNIK.

Bubnik (b. 1931), who starred for the powerful RH Brno club domestically, represented Czechoslovakia four times at the Olympics between 1952 and 1964 collecting a bronze medal on his final appearance at the Winter Games.

CZECHOSLOVAKIA all-time top scorers, Winter Olympic Games :

* 39 pts – 24 go – 15 as – 30 ga — Vlastimil BUBNIK
* 29 pts – 17 go – 12 as – 29 ga — Josef GOLONKA
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* 23 pts – 15 go — 8 as – 12 ga — Milan NOVY
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* 20 pts — 9 go – 11 as – 19 ga — Igor LIBA
* 19 pts – 13 go — 6 as – 14 ga — Vladimir MARTINEC
* 18 pts – 13 go — 5 as – 13 ga — Vaclav NEDOMANSKY
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Chunky right winger Vlastimil Bubnik, a 10-year veteran of international hockey, was among the most impressive of the visiting team.
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Vlastimil Bubnik, a 5-year veteran with the Nationals, scored the first two goals and missed on a pair of first period breakaways.

It was Bubnik's dazzling speed that left the Monties, and the crowd, in awe. He swept in off right wing in true Rocket Richard style and was unopposed from the blueline to the net.

Veteran referee Gordie Pranschke was impressed with forward Vlastimil Bubnik. "That fellow could have had the first four Czech goals. And he used a different move on each occasion." Nobody in the rink would have argued with the arbiter. Bubnik was the choice of the large crowd.

...The Czech captain is 32 years old but cavorts like a youngster.
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"Hockey is a national sport in Czechoslovakia and those players really train. Players like xxx xxx and Vlastimil Bubnik are really good ...
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Nice bio on Bubnik!

It lessens the question mark surrounding him, suggesting he might actually have excelled against the best of his era if he had played in the NHL or against truly international best. That Best Forward award at the World Championships ('63? or '64?) is significant as it was at a time of an emerging Soviet strength with some truly all-time greats in the line-up.

How did Bubnik do against the Soviets in the 1964 Olympics and 1963 or 64 world championship in games played against each other?

THAT would help further determine his status relative to the best of his era.

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