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10-20-2010, 03:24 PM
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Man, I had to skip the second page there was so much whining going on in this thread.

WTF is he gonna do? Magically heal all the injuries so his forward lines can meat your expectations?

I would bet you 100 bucks that Fedotenko gets more minutes than Prust. He isn't on the "second line" he is playing with Frolov and Christensen. He wont play and PP time so christ stop *****ing.


Good to see Sauer is in. This is pretty much what I would have done, except i'd like Zuccarello where Prust is.
I agree, Fitzy.

And that's who I'd like to see called up, as well (Zuccarello).

Take White out of the lineup, or Boogaard.


Dubinsky. Anisimov. Callahan
Frolov. Christensen. Zuccarello
Avery. Stepan. Fedotenko
Boogaard/White. Boyle. Prust

Staal. Girardi
Del Zotto. Sauer
Rozsival. Gilroy

Put Zuccarello in there, and suddenly the lineup doesn't look as bad, because it forces an otherwise 4th line player (Prust) back into his usual role.

I also don't trust Rozsival with that many minutes. I'd rather someone like Sauer in the top 4 getting a lot of minutes. Sauer is better defensively.

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10-20-2010, 03:31 PM
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I also don't see anything wrong with Tort's new line-up. We don't have a lot of depth and when someone like Gaborik gets hurt - it really affects the strengh of the whole line up. And you can see why he wants to keep other lines intact (at least for now). The only other option for the 1st line IMHO would be to place your remaining three best players on the same line which would mean Frolov-Anisimov-Dubinsky but I would not do this either for multiple reasons.

Separately, I'm so glad that Sauer is back. I think it means that he is replacing Eminger who should be the proverbial 7th defenseman every night. I might have missed something but against Colorado I didn't see him make a single pass or clear out of our zone that got to a Rangers player. And he's not good without the pack either.

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10-20-2010, 03:36 PM
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The lineup sucks but that's what is going to happen when you get those guys hurt.

Just try to win games until they are back.. THat's all you can do.

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10-20-2010, 03:42 PM
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Glad to see that the Anisimov and Stepan lines are in tact. If Stepan excels there, keep him there!

I also would like to see Boyle on the wing. Prust shouldn't be anywhere in the top-six. If he is, there should be no reason why MZA isn't on this team.

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10-20-2010, 03:44 PM
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I think whatever lines we put up are going to be quite the same.
There will be a plethora of penalties in this game and all will be mixed up.
Callahan more or less promised vengence for the injury to Gaborik - a la Reggie Dunlop - in the post game interview after we lost in the home opener.
So I can see this game getting downright real ugly - & fast. I expect a brawl.
Eminger is probably in the lineup only therefore (Gilroy = very meak).
Boogeyman is going to have to earn his paycheck now. He has definitely not done it yet ( imagine he has earned $ 78.048 for a sparse 14 minutes of icetime so far - no penalties - nothing. That is like $334.491 per hour!!! in salary). For the icetime he presently receives - he makes a whopping $10.000.000 (compared to someone "elite" playing 20 minutes per night) per year. Now that is a problem... Anyone with half a brain can realize that...
Boogeyman, Prust, Sauer, Cally, Boyle, Dubinsky, Eminger and Avery are all going to have to show their nastiest sides to neutralize Burkes goonies.
This game cannot arrive soon enough. Me & Dagoon will like this one.
Goon it up guys... Go down swinging if things go bad on the scoreboard. This may be a way of unifying the team and actually resulting in a better unit prepared to walk on fire for each others in the future. That kind of attitude could go a long way leading to much better scoreboard results. Seen it happen many times before. And no - I am not joking...
Syracuse Beware - The Chiefs are coming.
Would love to see it but this team and its coach has proven gutless so far...I think its more likely Torts spreads his labia and wraps his players in the warmth that is his system

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10-20-2010, 03:58 PM
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Makes me sick that this clown is so much on Eric Christensens pole that he continues to utilize this waiver fodder in a top line role.

It's bad enough Ryan Callahan (whom I love) is now a first line winger, but now Brandon Prust is a second line winger as well?

For christ's sake, any combo of these guys is going to look ugly, but it looks like he just throws darts at a board.
Christensen is more talented than most of the players on this roster. Not saying its a good thing, but its the truth. This team needs someone to make plays, so its not difficult to understand playing EC where he is.

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10-20-2010, 04:00 PM
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Oh crap. I forgot about Callahan's quote.

Should be an interesting game.

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10-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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this could be the worst Rangers team I've ever seen.....

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10-20-2010, 04:14 PM
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this could be the worst Rangers team I've ever seen.....
Our game 3 lineup vs New Jersey in 05-06...

Straka-Nylander-Sykora
Hossa-Rucchin-Prucha
Wiseman-Betts-Orr
Hollweg-Moore-Ortmeyer

Rozsival-Malik
Tyutin-Kasparitus
Ozolinch-Poti
Strudwick

Weekes
Lundqvist


There are a million other examples. Don't get me strated on the rosters we fielded late in 03-04. Why bother with overdramatic exaggeration?

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10-20-2010, 04:18 PM
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at this point, bring up MZA and Grachev...how much worse can it get

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10-20-2010, 04:27 PM
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at this point, bring up MZA and Grachev...how much worse can it get
Kennedy too - for White.

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10-20-2010, 04:29 PM
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Our game 3 lineup vs New Jersey in 05-06...

Straka-Nylander-Sykora
Hossa-Rucchin-Prucha
Wiseman-Betts-Orr
Hollweg-Moore-Ortmeyer

Rozsival-Malik
Tyutin-Kasparitus
Ozolinch-Poti
Strudwick

Weekes
Lundqvist


There are a million other examples. Don't get me strated on the rosters we fielded late in 03-04. Why bother with overdramatic exaggeration?
lol
that team was horrendous.

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10-20-2010, 04:31 PM
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Ew. No reason Prust should be on the second line when you have other more talented players in Hartford, like MZA, Kennedy and Grachev.
Why are people so obsessed with Kennedy? He's not much more talented than Prust and Prust is the better hockey player overall.

Grachev has done nothing in the AHL to warrant getting a game in the NHL, even with our lineup lacking goal scorers right now.

MZA is the only call-up that makes a ton of sense(IMO Byers or Weise makes sense too, with Boogard and/or White sitting, but I guess that probably won't happen)>

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at this point, bring up MZA and Grachev...how much worse can it get
you don't rush players, especially in bad situations.

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10-20-2010, 04:34 PM
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lol
that team was horrendous.
How can you say that?
We iced several fan favourites then including Nylander, Sykora, (the wrong) Hossa, Prucha, Orr, JOrts, Hollweg, Kaspar, Toots, Poti, Struds and Weekes. Imagine them all on the ice at once.

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10-20-2010, 04:43 PM
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All the biotching and whining aside, the bottom line is that a call-up should be made to get Boogard out of the line-up and Prust back on the 4th line. Doesn't matter who it is. Boogard is not needed.

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10-20-2010, 04:47 PM
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This makes a little more sense:

Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Frolov - Christensen - Zuccarello
Avery - Stepan - Fedotenko
White - Boyle - Prust

Staal - Rozsival
Del Zotto - Girardi
Sauer - Gilroy

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10-20-2010, 04:55 PM
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This makes a little more sense:

Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Frolov - Christensen - Zuccarello
Avery - Stepan - Fedotenko
White - Boyle - Prust

Staal - Rozsival
Del Zotto - Girardi
Sauer - Gilroy
I think thats about as good as you can do given the situation.

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10-20-2010, 05:04 PM
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So the problem with this lineup is Boogaard?

We have a low talent team right now with a young d corp. You know what I'm thinking - high speed puck pursuit and let the better team win, safe is death baby!

Or we could try and play some defense....

The lineup is not good and with Tortorella's one size fits all approach to hockey, he's actually making it worse than it has to be. But frankly, even playing the pure trap we would still lose a lot.

All I ask for now is that Boogaard, Prust and Avery be given the green light to play some tough entertaining hockey b/c we are not going to be beating many on the scoreboard.

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This makes a little more sense:

Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Frolov - Christensen - Zuccarello
Avery - Stepan - Fedotenko
White - Boyle - Prust

Staal - Rozsival
Del Zotto - Girardi
Sauer - Gilroy
But that would mean Sather would have to pick up the telephone and do some work...
seriously I am a loyal Ranger fan, but the lack of moves from our GM and Coach are just straight mind-boggling, do they like to see us suffer?

We lost our top offensive player... lets replace him with garbage! MZA should be called up and given a shot, playing prust (who i like) on the 2nd line is a joke.

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10-20-2010, 05:09 PM
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torts = dufus. nice work clownboy.

boyle on line 4 where hell get 5 minutes. yeah, hes only been one of our best forwards.

prust on line 2 with his lobster claws for hands playing with 2 skilled guys.

swap those 2 torts. way to reward boyle for his excellent play since day 1 of camp.

i know, i know.... the lines will be all mixed up after the first 5 minutes but still, it more torts cluelessness.

is it just me or is that one baaaaadddddd looking lineup

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So the problem with this lineup is Boogaard?

We have a low talent team right now with a young d corp. You know what I'm thinking - high speed puck pursuit and let the better team win, safe is death baby!

Or we could try and play some defense....

The lineup is not good and with Tortorella's one size fits all approach to hockey, he's actually making it worse than it has to be. But frankly, even playing the pure trap we would still lose a lot.

All I ask for now is that Boogaard, Prust and Avery be given the green light to play some tough entertaining hockey b/c we are not going to be beating many on the scoreboard.
Its part of the problem. We aren't putting our best possible line up out there with him in there.

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10-20-2010, 05:15 PM
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Our game 3 lineup vs New Jersey in 05-06...

Straka-Nylander-Sykora
Hossa-Rucchin-Prucha
Wiseman-Betts-Orr
Hollweg-Moore-Ortmeyer

Rozsival-Malik
Tyutin-Kasparitus
Ozolinch-Poti
Strudwick

Weekes
Lundqvist


There are a million other examples. Don't get me strated on the rosters we fielded late in 03-04. Why bother with overdramatic exaggeration?
Jagr is missing. Yes he did dislocate his shoulder, but still. That 1st line w/ Jagr is better than any line we've had in the last 2 seasons. All 3(Straka,Nyl,Jagr) were way over 50pt guys. Prucha was a 30 goal socrer in that season. Sykora came in as a player on pace for 50+pts. Production wise that team was not worse than what we have today. No way.

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So all those people who thought Sauer was never going to play again and ripping on Torts for it... yeah...

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