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10-22-2010, 12:50 PM
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Dreak, add this to Lala's profile:

These are the Top 5 votes from 81-85 (Makarov won in 80 and 86) Listed as "points Player (1st-2nd-3rd)"

1981: 462 Vladislav Tretiak (119-51-3) 453 Alexander Maltsev (115-54-0) 160 Jiri Lala (27-31-17) Sergei Makarov 151 (25-27-22) Peter Lindmark (25-24-9)

1982: 224 Vladislav Tretiak (61-11-19) 217 Milan Novy (46-31-17) 191 Viktor Shalimov (58-7-3) 175 Jiri Lala (56-2-3) 160 Miroslav Dvorak (24-27-34)

1983: 346 Vladislav Tretiak (82-43-14) 214 Vladimir Krutov (49-29-9) 195 Jiri Lala (52-18-2) 123 Sergei Makarov (26-19-7) 109 Undrafted Czech (22-14-15)

1984: 316 Vyacheslav Fetisiv (96-10-8) 182 Vladislav Tretiak (45-21-5) 163 Dominik Hasek (28-36-7) 124 Sergei Makarov (32-12-4) 86 Vladimir Krutov (23-2-13)

1985: 344 Undrafted Czech (102-17-4) 313 Sergei Makarov (89-23-0) 285 Vyacheslav Fetisov (62-17-5) 249 Jiri Lala (37-64-10) 192 Vladimir Krutov (23-51-21)

Pretty elite company.

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10-22-2010, 12:57 PM
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Dreak, add this to Lala's profile:

These are the Top 5 votes from 81-85 (Makarov won in 80 and 86) Listed as "points Player (1st-2nd-3rd)"

1981: 462 Vladislav Tretiak (119-51-3) 453 Alexander Maltsev (115-54-0) 160 Jiri Lala (27-31-17) Sergei Makarov 151 (25-27-22) Peter Lindmark (25-24-9)

1982: 224 Vladislav Tretiak (61-11-19) 217 Milan Novy (46-31-17) 191 Viktor Shalimov (58-7-3) 175 Jiri Lala (56-2-3) 160 Miroslav Dvorak (24-27-34)

1983: 346 Vladislav Tretiak (82-43-14) 214 Vladimir Krutov (49-29-9) 195 Jiri Lala (52-18-2) 123 Sergei Makarov (26-19-7) 109 Undrafted Czech (22-14-15)

1984: 316 Vyacheslav Fetisiv (96-10-8) 182 Vladislav Tretiak (45-21-5) 163 Dominik Hasek (28-36-7) 124 Sergei Makarov (32-12-4) 86 Vladimir Krutov (23-2-13)

1985: 344 Undrafted Czech (102-17-4) 313 Sergei Makarov (89-23-0) 285 Vyacheslav Fetisov (62-17-5) 249 Jiri Lala (37-64-10) 192 Vladimir Krutov (23-51-21)

Pretty elite company.
It's been in there from the start

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10-22-2010, 12:59 PM
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It's been in there from the start
His record was in there near the top like it should be, but I find it much more impressive with who he was beating out every year.

You don't want to mess up your pretty bio by quoting me at the very end?


I also find it noteworthy who is NOT listed there (pretty much any 80s Soviet who was left to this level).

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10-22-2010, 01:09 PM
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Beaupre and Potvin were the guys it really came down to when I wanted a starting goalie. Beaupre is a player I severely underrated in the past. He ended up with two more wins than Potvin and two fewer playoff wins. He got decent Vezina consideration - 4, 4, 6, 7. And his save percentage finishes from the pre-recorded era are solid: 5, 7, 7, 8, 10. When averaged out with Potvin based on league size and league average, their save percentage finishes and career totals are almost identical.
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It was in the playoffs where Potvin rose above. His save percentage relative to the league average over his career was +.005, 22nd out of 56 goalies with 2000+ playoff minutes through 2009. Beaupre was 52nd at -.008. But getting into 2000+ playoff minutes is an accomplishment in itself, and the goalies Beaupre is ahead of are Peeters, Vernon, Bouchard, and Giacomin.
Yeah, Beaupre has a ton of NHL playoff experience, with some great come-off-the-bench relief roles, and was targeted pre-draft as number one on the backup role depth chart for my team.

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However, I didn't really like that comparison for Beaupre because it weighs his 1992-1995 seasons more heavily, and in those seasons he was at his worst and played a higher percentage of the schedule
Yeah, he had five consecutive winning seasons as the Caps starter with 20+ wins per season right before he joined the lowly expansion Senators and went 8-25 and 6-23 in the win-loss column, working without much help anymore clearing creases to prevent screened shots and rebounds, surely killing his save percentage.

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10-22-2010, 01:43 PM
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Your starter vs. my backup.
And it's a resounding win for Potvin, so all is right with the world!

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Yeah, he had five consecutive winning seasons as the Caps starter with 20+ wins per season right before he joined the lowly expansion Senators and went 8-25 and 6-23 in the win-loss column, working without much help anymore clearing creases to prevent screened shots and rebounds, surely killing his save percentage.
There's not really an excuse for 1994, he had a good team, but if I strike 1995 and 1996 from the records (as he was also awful when he came to Toronto), here's what we get:

expected save percentage for a goalie who played at league average level for Beaupre's number of games in 1981-1994: .884

Beaupre's save percentage from 1981-1994: .884

net: 0

so those last two seasons when he was both past his prime and playing on a bad team dragged his cumulative career number 2 points below average.

Potvin's last two seasons on Boston did the same thing to his career average: he was a +.004 with those seasons excluded. But his excuse is a little less valid.

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This thread should be renamed Lala Land!

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Philadelphia selects D Bill Brydge



1x "3rd team" NHL All-Star (1932-33)
3x Top 10 Points Among Defensemen (4, 6, 10)
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Bill Brydge was a stocky defenceman who played the body but could also move the puck up ice effectively. Most of his nine-year career was spent on the New York Americans' defensive brigade in the 1920s and '30s.

Born in Renfrew, Ontario, Brydge excelled in the NOHA with Iroquois Falls Paper for two years before joining the senior Port Arthur Bearcats in 1923-24. He spent three years on the club and helped it win consecutive Allan Cups in 1925 and 1926. In 1926-27, Brydge played 41 games in the NHL for Toronto the first year the franchise was known as the Maple Leafs.

Brydge spent the 1927-28 season in the Can Pro League with the Detroit Olympics then played most of the next season in the Motor City with the NHL's Cougars. In November 1929, the solid defender was traded to the New York Americans for $5,000. Brydge found a home in the "red, white and blue" and was a fixture on the club's defence for six and a half years. His steady play was one of the few bright lights for a franchise that was a perennial outsider when the playoffs began. Brydge retired after playing 21 games for New York in 1935-36.
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Another veteran, Bill Brydge, for many years a star defense man with Toronto Maple Leafs, Detroit Red Wings and New York Americans, retired from the game shortly before the end of last season.
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The greatly improved NY Americans, aided by the sensational defensive play of their goalie, Roy Worters, and Bill Brydge, tonight topped the Boston Bruins, 2-1.

Brydge's poke-checking aided Worters considerably.
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Bill Brydge, the Americans' star defensemen, were penalized, did the Flying Frenchmen display any concentrated aggressiveness.

Bill brydge's all-around play was one of the features of the battle.
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One man not to be overlooked is Bill Brydge, the redoubtable defenseman, who came in for his share of glory when he tallied New York's second counter.
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AMERICANS DOWN TORONTO SIX, 3-1 - Brydge Is Pace Setter: Led by the sturdy Bill Brydge, who figured twice in the scoring
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Red Dutton and Bill Brydge were extremely vigilant and covered many of the Leafs' sizzling shots.
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The bulk of the Spangled Sextet's defense was borne by Bill Brydge, who interrupted numerous Ottawa charges and who also took part in many of the Americans' charges.
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Bill Brydge. American defense man man who played with Detroit last season, on, put up a good game against his former team-mates
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... but their efforts in the vicinity of the New York cage were rendered fruitless by the strong defensive work of xxx and Bill Brydge
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Only the great work of xxx and Bill Brydge, American guards. prevented the Rangers from piercing their adversaries' net
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Bill Brydge and xxx combined well to smother numerous sallies into Toronto territory and they frequently started offensive moves
-NY Times November 21st, 1931


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10-22-2010, 03:23 PM
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Philadelphia selects D Bill Brydge



1x "3rd team" NHL All-Star (1932-33)
3x Top 10 Points Among Defensemen (4, 6, 10)
10th in Points Among Defensemen during career
2x Allen Cup Champion



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http://books.google.com/books?id=ndj...ed=0CE4Q6AEwCQ



-NY Times January 10th, 1934



-NY Times March 8th, 1933



-NY Times January 27th, 1932



-NY Times January 18th, 1933



-NY Times January 12th, 1934



-NY Times December 14th, 1932



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-NY Times December 7th, 1931



-NY Times March 16th, 1931



-NY Times November 21st, 1931
I think this is a very good pick... I guess you could say he was in the same boat as Trapp... I went to bat for him before and wanted to see how much of an effect my pimping had... in Brydge's case, apparently not so much. But I think he's a legit #2 defenseman in this thing (though the gap between #1 and #6 guys will ultimately be miniscule between all but the very best and very worst)

He was not among the 4 guys whose non-selection will drive me bonkers, but you could put him on the "watched to see how far he'd fall" list. I'm really glad he got taken.

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10-22-2010, 07:28 PM
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There's not really an excuse for 1994
Are we judging guys by their 14th NHL season. He was in the all-star game in his 12th season, 91-92. I think that's far enough in his career to assess him in the AAA.

As for comparing Potvin and Beaupre stats, THEY AREN'T EVEN FROM THE SAME ERA!!! (unless you indeed want to compare Beaupre's 15th-17th season with Potvin's 1st-3rd). Your entire analysis is predicated on the assumption that differences in goalie stats between the High Flyin' Eighties and the Dead Puck Era are due to goalie performances. How to lie with statistics! Off in La La Land.

Beaupre began in 1981 and played the bulk of his career by his all-star game in 1992.
Potvin played his first season 1992 and went into the 2000s.

The fact that Beaupre and Povin's stats were at all close counts in Beaupre's favour if anything since scoring and sheer offensive opportunities were greater in the High Flyin' Eighties than the dmen clutching and grabbin' Dead Puck Era.


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10-22-2010, 07:42 PM
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Are we judging guys by their 14th NHL season. He was in the all-star game in his 12th season, 91-92. I think that's far enough in his career to assess him in the AAA.

As for comparing Potvin and Beaupre stats, THEY AREN'T EVEN FROM THE SAME ERA!!! (unless you indeed want to compare Beaupre's 15th-17th season with Potvin's 1st-3rd). Your entire analysis is predicated on the assumption that differences in goalie stats between the High Flyin' Eighties and the Dead Puck Era are due to goalie performances. How to lie with statistics! Off in La La Land.

Beaupre began in 1981 and played the bulk of his career by his all-star game in 1992.
Potvin played his first season 1992 and went into the 2000s.

The fact that Beaupre and Povin's stats were at all close counts in Beaupre's favour if anything since scoring and sheer offensive opportunities were greater in the High Flyin' Eighties than the dmen clutching and grabbin' Dead Puck Era.
Allow me to attempt to understand your position here. Based on your wording, it sounds like you think I am comparing, at face value, the save% stats of two goalies whose careers barely overlap and who played in two distinct eras. Is that true?

If so, don't insult me. I would never do such a thing. And you should know that by now. I'd like to think you obviously do, and I've misinterpreted.

Which brings me to the other scenario - If you understand that my analysis was based on comparing their respective save percentages in each season to the league average of said seasons in order to eliminate era bias... then I must ask, first, what on earth would be your problem with that, and second, do you have a better way?

Your one point about longevity is valid, and betterr than anyone I understand the value of performing at a slightly lower level but for a higher time. Beaupre played 5 more seasons than Potvin and that is worthy of mention. Perhaps a comparison of their best 5, or best 10 seasons would say more about their peak value. I am not at a computer right now, but based on the numbers I saw earlier today, Potvin would still win this one, though maybe not by as much. (And he'd still smoke him in the playoffs of course)

As for "the fact that they are close should count in Beaupre's favour", actually, if you look at the respective competition each goalie is being compared to at their positions, both at the top (where sv% rankings would be compared) and in the middle (where the league averages that I was comparing to came from), it's not close. Potvin's contemporaries were better.

As for 1994... he was still the starting goalie of a good team. The stage was set for a good season. He was individually not that good. By saying there was no excuse for those numbers, all I mean is that he wasn't THAT old and it wasn't the Sens he was playing for.

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10-22-2010, 09:04 PM
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I am not a fan of adjusted stats.

It's hard enough to use goalie stats within the same era to judge the value of a goaltender.

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Your one point about longevity is valid, and better than anyone I understand the value of performing at a slightly lower level but for a higher time. Beaupre played 5 more seasons than Potvin and that is worthy of mention. Perhaps a comparison of their best 5, or best 10 seasons would say more about their peak value.
Perhaps.

I'll simply say they both belong in this draft. Both were stars as rookies, Beaupre as the youngest ever starter in the NHL all-star game in 1981 and Potvin making the season-ending 1st all-rookie team in 1993. Both went to two all-star games. Both had similar career win totals (268 to 266). Both had near identical playoff win-loss records, Potvin 35 wins in 72 starts and Beaupre 33 in 72. Both have had memorable perfomances, Potvin for longer stretches while Beaupre had some geat come-off-the-bench performances, most notably in the Stanley Cup Finals.

I'll leave you to split hairs as to who's better. Clearly, you can argue that Potvin is better based on adjusted stats. I've thought Beaupre is a better backup in an all-time context than Potvin is a starter, as he has worked well in tandems and sudden step-in situations.

I still think they are comparable in many ways and your initial point of considering both on your shortlist for this draft is apt, and where I exit this conversation, for now.

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10-22-2010, 09:39 PM
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Yeah, Beaupre is a better backup than Potvin is a starter. Considering there can't be more than about 5 spots separating the two on a goalies list, they should ideally have the same role and the fact that you got Beaupre as a backup is good for you... I also fully agree they are similar.

Obviously if we can't agree on a numerical fact-based method to evaluate them then we're dealing with completely subjective analysis, and this is the aaa draft, where judgments vary more than ever, so... we can just not bother. Both belong, a few better ones were taken first (like Lemelin) and some lesser ones will be taken after. I think they both were taken right where they belonged.

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Sorry I blinked. Of his four years, I have seen only the playoffs and some regular season games against the Caps, Flyers, Sabres and some Western teams. The Pens, Leafs, Panthers and Kings I make a point of not watching usually.

Let's see. He has a 4-year career, is a Calder and Selke trophy finalist, a 3rd liner on a Stanley Cup team, the team's top penalty killing forward, and he won a world championship gold. Okay, he fits in as a 4th liner in the AAA (or third liner if Bottom-6 is aligned to have shutdown role there).

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I had to check to see whether Jordan Staal met the "300 games" requirement. He does... good thing for him that he's really durable! Missed just 1 game in his entire career (his rookie season).

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...until this season.

Basically same career GP path as eric.

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The Tigers draft Robert Reichel.



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Philadelphia listpicks right wing/center Billy Bell
Regina listpicks goalie Jiri Kralik
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With Toronto, Reid was thrown onto a checking line with (available player) and (available player). The trio clicked with their less-than-fancy, dump-and-charge style of play. Reid looked very much at home until his contract expired in 1991. It then looked like history repeating itself when Reid signed again with the Boston Bruins who, during the course of the 1991-92 season, sent him back down for a return visit with the Maine Mariners of the AHL. But this time the stay was short and Reid resumed his NHL gig for good.

He lasted one more season in Boston and then signed as a free agent with the Dallas Stars who welcomed his tenacious defensive play and streak scoring outbursts, especially the odd cluster of shorthanded goals. In 1998-99, all of Reid's patience and hard work paid off as his Stars won their first and only Stanley Cup.

The following year, life only got better as he signed with the Colorado Avalanche, another dominant team of the NHL. And as usual, Reid plugged right into the club's defensive system, making himself his usual useful self. At the close of the 2000-2001 campaign, Reid was awarded his second Stanley Cup ring.

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London selects Emile Francis, coach, who resurrected a terrible Rangers team in the 1970s, saved the St. Louis Blues and built the Hartford Whalers into a contender (the last one as purely GM, though).

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And amidst an NHL career, re-building three troubled franchises – the New York Rangers, the St. Louis Blues and the Hartford Whalers – it should come as no surprise to those who know Emile Francis that the pinnacle of his hockey career was helping youngsters develop a passion for hockey while building the game in his community.

-Inducted into Hockey Hall of Fame as Builder in 1982
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-Before he coached the Rangers, they only made the playoffs in 4 of the previous 16 seasons and never past the first round.
-The Rangers missed the playoffs the two seasons after he left

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When his playing career ended Francis worked for the Rangers in their front office developing their farm system. Many of the prospects he signed would later play key roles when he coached the Rangers. He became the Rangers GM in 1964 but by 1965 he was doubling as their head coach too.

The Rangers had been in the doldrums since the end of World War Two, making only six playoff appearances since 1942. Their last Stanley Cup final had been in 1950 when Francis was still a reserve goalie for Chuck Rayner.

The Cat told me in an interview that he made comprehensive changes in the Rangers organization; not just with personnel but also with the team’s facilities.

Instead of using the inadequate practice rink at the old Madison Square Garden, Francis had a brand new practice facility built in Long Island. Vic Hadfield writes in his diary of the 1972-73 Season that Francis made sure that the traveling and hotel conditions were “first class”.
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Francis told me that he expanded the team’s scouting corps and he wanted to beef up the offense, saying, “I believed in speed; people who could skate, win 60% of face-offs. I kept track of everything: giveaways, takeaways…using films as a coaching tool.”

It wasn’t just speed Francis emphasized. It was physicality too.


Francis told me his philosophy was “play the man”.

“The more hits you had the more shots on goal you could get,” he said. “I wanted my teams to have a minimum forty hits per game.”

To encourage contact Francis had a bounty system of $5 per hit (back then with low salaries $5 was a lot of money) and the Cat told me with a chuckle that there were considerable arguments among the Rangers players about who got the most hits after each game.
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His changes paid off when the Rangers made it to the 1967 Stanley Cup playoffs. Although they were swept in four by Montreal (“we didn’t have the depth!” Francis laments) all four games were hotly contested affairs.

“Year by year, we kept getting better,” Francis said.


Indeed, offensively, from 1970-74 the Rangers were always among the top four teams in goals scored, power play goals and power-play percentage. Defensively from 1969-74 the Rangers were always among the top five in defense and penalty-killing.


Francis coached and/or developed many of the greatest players in New York Rangers history: Rod Gilbert, Jean Ratelle, Brad Park, Eddie Giacomin and Harry Howell all earned Hall-of-Fame honors after playing for Emile Francis. Gilbert remains the all-time Rangers goal-scorer and was a two-time NHL All-Star. Ratelle was a two-time Lady Byng Trophy winner.
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Sadly, despite his efforts, Francis never won the Stanley Cup. The Rangers did make four consecutive Stanley Cup final four appearances from 1971-74 (no other Rangers coach has done this since that time); and in 1972 they made it all the way to the Stanley Cup finals only to be beaten in six games by the Boston Bruins. In 1974 they came within an ace of making it to the finals again but were edged out by the Philadelphia Flyers.
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In many ways Francis was ahead of the curve among his fellow hockey coaches and GMs.

When the present NHL Players Association began in 1967, Francis (unlike Punch Imlach of Toronto) saw the writing on the wall and dealt honestly and fairly with the new union, maintaining peace and harmony with his players. When the World Hockey Association in 1972 made inroads on the NHL, luring away top players with huge salary offers, Francis (unlike Harry Sinden of Boston) promptly renegotiated his contracts with his prime players and thus prevented any major defections to the new league.
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When new ownership took over the Rangers in 1974 and began interfering with the Cat’s leadership, Francis endured it for one season, was fired and moved on to the St. Louis Blues.
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The Cat left the frying pan and landed into the fire. Francis as GM, coach and part-owner of the Blues waged a desperate eight year struggle to keep the Blues franchise operating. The reason why the Blues remain in St. Louis today is because of Emile Francis’ unstinting efforts.

After 1983 Francis left the Blues and became GM of the Hartford Whalers (now the Carolina Hurricanes) until 1989.


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Queen's University goes off the board to select defenseman Frank Eddolls, the New York Rangers captain in 1950-51, the same year he played in the NHL all-star game, in the middle of five solid NHL seasons in The Big Apple. He won the Memorial Cup before going to war, and he was so well regarded that Ted Kennedy was traded to Toronto to get his rights, and Eddolls won the Stanley Cup in Montreal in 1946 before his best years as a NYR. Montreal lost in trading HOFer Kennedy for him and lost again in trading O'Connor and later-blooming Eddolls to NY for three duds in what are two of the worst Hab trades of the era.



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In 1947-48, Eddolls joined the New York Rangers where he would enjoy five strong NHL seasons. In his first year with the club, he scored 19 points and served as the team's captain in 1950-51.
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Eddolls is known as one of the very few defensemen that consistently succeeded in defending the legendary Maurice "Rocket" Richard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Eddolls

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Eddolls became one of the best defensemen in the NHL... Thanks to Eddolls, the Rangers made the playoffs in 1947-48 for the first time in six years... starred for the New Yorkers in the 1950 playoffs when the Rangers took the Red Wings to the seventh game of the finals
http://books.google.ca/books?id=wpbL...ddolls&f=false

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Eddolls spent the last five NHL seasons of his playing career with the Broadway Blueshirts, one of the Rangers’ most popular and effective performers
http://ourhistory.canadiens.com/player/Frank-Eddolls


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A reliable, steady defensive D-man who was an excellent PKer. Boasts impressive adjusted +/-, 91 playoff games including a trip to the finals with Ducks, played for the US Olympic team in Nagano.

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