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10-28-2010, 08:48 AM
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If Schenn gets anything above 3.5million, I'll be pissed. He'll have to play lights out for the rest of the season to warrant that kind of money (4mill).
are you new to the NHL?

he'll get that much, actually, that will probably be the low end amount of what he will get

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10-28-2010, 08:51 AM
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Would Tampa Match a max offer sheet by someone ?

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10-28-2010, 09:42 AM
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Would Tampa Match a max offer sheet by someone ?
For the 20 year old Rocket Richard winner?

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For the 20 year old Rocket Richard winner?

Yes.
They need to for the sake of the franchise. Would be a blow to their fan base if they did not.

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10-28-2010, 01:27 PM
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I would sooooo hit Doughty with a 7 mill offer sheet
The Kings would match tho.

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10-28-2010, 01:30 PM
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Sorry OP, but you're insane. 9M for Stamkos and only 5 for Doughty??

If the Kings got Doughty for 5M/year it would be an amazing steal...He's already one of the best defensemen in the NHL and has an absolute ton of upside.

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10-28-2010, 05:47 PM
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Stammy wont get anything close to 9. Basing it off Thorntons new contract with Thornton being a better passer, but Stammy being a better player id say Stammy gets at most 7.8/ 7 years. Stevie Y could influence him using we have a good core going on here and we need cap room. Stammy seems like the type of guy who wont become kolvachuk V2

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Lol, and here everyone's saying "You expect to overpay for a UFA."
You expect to overpay for every top flight free agent, be it UFA or RFA.


Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin went right to the huge contracts on their first year of RFA eligibility...they were worth it, but its something that didn't happen pre-lockout (though not many players pre-lockout were doing what they were at that age). Stamkos will get paid a comparable sum to what the other stars are making, and will deserve every penny of it.

The others are more of wild cards...a lot of it has to do with years. The shorter the contract the more you can generally expect to pay per year. Doughty isn't going to be signing a short-term deal for a reasonable sum.

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10-28-2010, 06:07 PM
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You expect to overpay for every top flight free agent, be it UFA or RFA.


Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin went right to the huge contracts on their first year of RFA eligibility...they were worth it, but its something that didn't happen pre-lockout (though not many players pre-lockout were doing what they were at that age). Stamkos will get paid a comparable sum to what the other stars are making, and will deserve every penny of it.

The others are more of wild cards...a lot of it has to do with years. The shorter the contract the more you can generally expect to pay per year. Doughty isn't going to be signing a short-term deal for a reasonable sum.
Ovechkin:
Year 1: All rookie team, 1st team all star, calder
Year 2: 1st team all star
year 3: 1st team all star, Lester B/Ted Lindsay, Richard, Art Ross, Hart, 65 goals

Malkin:
Year 1: Calder
Year 2: 1st team all star, Hart runner up
Year 3: 1st team all star, Hart runner up, Conn Smythe, 36 points in 24 playoff games, Cup

Crosby:
Year 1: All rookie team
Year 2: First team all star, Hart, Lester B/Ted Lindsay, Art Ross
Year 3: Only played 59 games due to injury, on pace to match AO for the Art Ross while healthy, 27 points in 20 playoff games


Stamkos:
Year 1: nothing
Year 2: Richard
Year 3: Still waiting to tell, great start though


Stamkos has a long way to go before he's on the level of those three. And Frankly to assume his contract to be in the same area is a little crazy when you look at what those three did in their first 3 years

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10-28-2010, 08:10 PM
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Ovechkin:
Year 1: All rookie team, 1st team all star, calder
Year 2: 1st team all star
year 3: 1st team all star, Lester B/Ted Lindsay, Richard, Art Ross, Hart, 65 goals

Malkin:
Year 1: Calder
Year 2: 1st team all star, Hart runner up
Year 3: 1st team all star, Hart runner up, Conn Smythe, 36 points in 24 playoff games, Cup

Crosby:
Year 1: All rookie team
Year 2: First team all star, Hart, Lester B/Ted Lindsay, Art Ross
Year 3: Only played 59 games due to injury, on pace to match AO for the Art Ross while healthy, 27 points in 20 playoff games


Stamkos:
Year 1: nothing
Year 2: Richard
Year 3: Still waiting to tell, great start though


Stamkos has a long way to go before he's on the level of those three. And Frankly to assume his contract to be in the same area is a little crazy when you look at what those three did in their first 3 years
Correct, how high his deal goes is based primarily on how he performs this season. Finish top 3 in goals and top 3-5 in points, he'll garner well over $7 million per season even if he just re-signs for his RFA years. Should get a little less than those 3, but definately a deal that should be around the cap hit that Lecavelier has now, anywhere around the $7 to $8 million range.

Also keep in mind when comparing Stamkos to Sid, Ovy, and Geno, Ovy was a late birth year, just missed the 2003 draft by days, so at the start of his 1st NHL season he was 20 years old, basically the age that Stamkos is now going into year 3. Malkin, was also 20, stayed an extra year in Russia after the lockout. Sid came in at 18.

Stamkos is off to a terrific start so far, 18 points already, and should surpass 20 before the end of October. Should hit the 100 point mark this season.

The other players, aside from Doughty, should likely follow the James Neal, Erik Johnson, and Chris Stewart type signings and go 2 years to boost their stats a bit more on their next contracts.

Only elite guys like Toews, Backstrom, Kane should be signing longer term deals.

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10-28-2010, 09:18 PM
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I think Bailey will sign a relatively cheap, short term deal.

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10-28-2010, 09:27 PM
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Schenn 3.75 M - 3-5 years. Book it !

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10-29-2010, 02:25 AM
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I mean, hey, what do I know. Doughty may very well sign a contract for $7 million per year for seven years. I just think that, looking at the current condition of the league and how the cap keeps raising, Kopitar numbers won't be all that high not too far in the future. I think a lot of players would benefit from knowing what their worth will be once the new CBA is in place. That is pretty much a moot point however, because it isn't possible to know. Trust me, I wouldn't mind the Kings giving Doughty that vaunted 15-year, $102 million contract and shove it in Kovalchoke's stupid face.

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10-29-2010, 03:51 AM
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Steven Stamkos: 7.5M
Drew Doughty: 5.5-6M
Zach Bogosian: 4M
Luke Schenn: 3.5M
Josh Bailey: 2.75M
Mikkel Boedeker: 2M
Viktor Tikhonov: 1.5M
Luca Sbisa: 1.5M

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