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10-30-2010, 12:50 AM
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This seems pretty ridiculous, maybe he went Spreewell on Gilbert...

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10-30-2010, 12:51 AM
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Only thing McManus kind of has is that something happened in the locker room.

I would guess physical confrontation, given the limited amount of truly controversial things that would happen in the locker room.

Can anyone think of another time this organization has done something like this?

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10-30-2010, 12:52 AM
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****ing Gilbert.

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10-30-2010, 01:12 AM
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What a joke, never even got a chance in the NHL

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10-30-2010, 01:40 AM
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Hard to blame management without knowing what he did. Remember how some people were upset that he was inline skating for team usa over the summer? :-p

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10-30-2010, 03:53 AM
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Remember how Stevens forced out Upshall and Downie, they blossomed, and he eventually got canned?

This has all SORTS of potential.

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10-30-2010, 04:24 AM
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Hard to blame management without knowing what he did. Remember how some people were upset that he was inline skating for team usa over the summer? :-p
Yeah, while it sounds a bit strange, let's reserve judgment until we now what's really been going on up there.

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10-30-2010, 04:47 AM
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Maroon is going to be a good player in this league, i can see it now.

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10-30-2010, 05:02 AM
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I'm curious, when did he start with this attitude? Has it had it since the draft or some other time?

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10-30-2010, 05:54 AM
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Holmgren was in the building are we sure this wasnt his call?

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10-30-2010, 07:18 AM
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I have a sneaking suspicion that this is more due to having an idiotic coach on our minor team.

This is too out-of-the-blue and too important a prospect (for us) for it be anything else. This ****ing sucks though. Our best forward prospect is being cut loose and no one is giving any reason why. ********.
dont know what happened this particular time, as i mentioned several times before he had issues and that is why he wasnt given a chance this camp. He was sat down and talked to after last season and told to get his act together as they were not happy about things off the ice and his attitude. So this is not surprising to me at all.

so who does he get moved to for 5th rd pick at best? oilers, hurricans or phoenix, hawks lol? Maroon for Jessiman as shooter loves the 2003 draft

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10-30-2010, 07:44 AM
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Full write up from PSPhantoms:

http://poststar.com/app/blogs/?cat=784

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What happened with Maroon:

“It’s just an internal matter and it’s going to stay that way, stay what happened in the dressing room.
My personal guess would be attitude problems again. By keeping it quiet, you at least part ways while not being a dick and bashing him in the media (as publicly being known for attitude problems could really effect signing with other teams). But who knows, maybe they traded him? I can't see any other reason why he would just be re-assigned.

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10-30-2010, 07:47 AM
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Not exactly surprised. After we didn't see him during the preseason, I kind of figured it was going to happen.

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10-30-2010, 09:10 AM
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Did Shafer off himself?

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10-30-2010, 09:12 AM
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Remember how Stevens forced out Upshall and Downie, they blossomed, and he eventually got canned?

This has all SORTS of potential.
I don't remember that...probably because it didn't happen. Stevens didn't force out anybody.

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10-30-2010, 09:15 AM
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I don't remember that...probably because it didn't happen. Stevens didn't force out anybody.
he most certainly had a hand in it no doubt. Stevens was a bully coach who picke don certain players. You can add Eager to that list as well.

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10-30-2010, 09:23 AM
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he most certainly had a hand in it no doubt. Stevens was a bully coach who picke don certain players. You can add Eager to that list as well.
Upshall was traded for cap space (and maybe to calm down the Olde City crew) and Downie was traded because they needed a defenseman. Stevens didn't "force" them out

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10-30-2010, 09:25 AM
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Upshall was trading for cap space (and maybe to calm down the Olde City crew) and Downie was traded because they needed a defenseman. Stevens didn't "force" them out
If Upshall was leaving for cap space, they wouldn't have taken a contract back for him, let alone giving up a draft pick to do it.

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10-30-2010, 09:29 AM
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Upshall was traded for cap space (and maybe to calm down the Olde City crew) and Downie was traded because they needed a defenseman. Stevens didn't "force" them out
well thats your opinion and you believe what you like. Yeah he was traded for <400k in cap space, that is funny. Another great move by Shooter.

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10-30-2010, 09:52 AM
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Upshall was traded for cap space (and maybe to calm down the Olde City crew) and Downie was traded because they needed a defenseman. Stevens didn't "force" them out
And both players were options to be dealt because they were on Stevens' **** list. He jerked Downie around like there was no tomorrow, and Upshall is the only player in his entire tenure I can ever recall him publicly calling out.

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10-30-2010, 10:02 AM
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We had to know something was up when he did not get a sniff in preseason.

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10-30-2010, 10:04 AM
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We had to know something was up when he did not get a sniff in preseason.
Public offing in the town square still seems a bit out of left field.

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10-30-2010, 10:21 AM
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If Upshall was leaving for cap space, they wouldn't have taken a contract back for him, let alone giving up a draft pick to do it.
Upshall wasn't dealt because of cap space, it was for projected cap space. He was undoubtedly going to want more money the following year and for a 3rd line player it wasn't worth it when you could get someone like Carcillo to do that role. We essentially traded him as a rental to Phoenix.

On top of that it's probably better for him. Phoenix has a lot of young guys and Upshall is getting 1st/2nd line minutes over there. For his career it was a great move.

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10-30-2010, 10:23 AM
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Upshall was traded for cap space (and maybe to calm down the Olde City crew) and Downie was traded because they needed a defenseman. Stevens didn't "force" them out
Upshall was traded because Homer ****ed up the cap. Downie was traded because Stevens repeatedly sat him instead of either playing him or sending him to the Phantoms. That was just as much Homer's fault as it was Stevens because you don't sit a young guy when you could be getting him playing time in the AHL.

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Upshall wasn't dealt because of cap space, it was for projected cap space. He was undoubtedly going to want more money the following year and for a 3rd line player it wasn't worth it when you could get someone like Carcillo to do that role. We essentially traded him as a rental to Phoenix.
No, that was an idiotic attempt to deal with an immediate problem... they weren't able to call up anyone if someone was hurt and it wasn't a LTIR situation. As you might recall, they had to send Giroux down when Timonen got the flu for a couple of games. Of course, the actual cap gains there were squat... so by the end of the year they were playing an ATO in a crucial game.

If the issue was the following year, then (I pray!) Holmgren could have waited and gotten better value over the summer.

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