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11-01-2010, 11:55 PM
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really? you don't like the direction the comic went? you're literally the 1st person i know who isn't in love with it, lol.... everybody to their own i guess i personally *love* the comic, it progressed very closely to how i imagine things would progress (if such a thing actually happened)... i hope they stay as close to the comic as possible
There are certain things they will likely cut out from the tv show. Mostly the Woodbury storyline.

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watched it. kind of mediocre but not BAD by any means.

i dont really like biological/disease based zombies. its too lame and theyre written stupid for how "Real" theyre suppose to be (they need to eat but never starve, theyre never ripped up by other species that devour carrion, etc, etc, etc). i like the italian late 70s necromantic style more. more creepy and bizarre. at least i know its not trying to be "real".

the story seems kind of slow and tedious too. family motivations (hello, inception) are so tired and the drama/dialog was kind of weak. ill watch it for a while but i dont know if its going to stick, personally. its just any other Romero based zombie thing turned graphic novel, turned TV show.

not bad, not amazing. zombies are overrated.
The show/comic's title isn't a reference to the zombies but of the survivors. It's not a zombie comic/show. It's about the people and how they'd survive. I've been told it's similar to World War Z in that it's a story about humans that involves zombies.

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Boardwalk Empire imo is nothing at all. Far inferior to the Sopranos or many mafioso movies, series that have been done much better before.
Its an overdone genre and really you could only be impressed with this if you hadn't been exposed to the Godfather and everything since for several decades.

Theres lots of promise in teh Atlantic boardwalk story and history but the resultant series sucks. Its maybe doing well in the face of really ordinary TV these days.
I have to disagree with you regarding your opinion about Boardwalk Empire. I think its one of the best drama series on TV. I think the series is off to a great start and will be far more polished as it evolves. I really enjoy Boardwalk Empire and would recommend it to anyone.

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What channel is AMC on the Bell dish? Need to set the PVR el pronticimo,

and got to say I'm watching Boardwalk Empire, not bad but could be better. I'll keep watching. Dexter is at a standstill although last night was pretty good. Rounding off with East Bound and Dwon and Call Me Fitz, good way to end a Sunday!

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great show thus far

a lot like 28 Days Later thats for sure

I'm sure they'll eventually tell us, but how was he the only unharmed guy in the whole hospital? and how could he live for weeks with nothing to eat or drink?

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It's nothing like 28 Days Later except for the hospital scene.

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It's nothing like 28 Days Later except for the hospital scene.
I haven't read the novels and I'm sure the story will flesh out but when a patient wake up weeks later to find his town deserted and full of zombies? then bands together with other "normal people" to find a "safe zone" protected by the military?


sounds a lot like 28 Days Later to me

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Never mind, found it at 293.

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I haven't read the novels and I'm sure the story will flesh out but when a patient wake up weeks later to find his town deserted and full of zombies? then bands together with other "normal people" to find a "safe zone" protected by the military?


sounds a lot like 28 Days Later to me

28 days later isn't, technically, a zombie movie, although it borrows a lot of elements from the zombie mythology.

the opening episode shared a few plot elements with 28 days later, but the main character, imo, deviates considerably from Cillian Murphy's character, and the story has already deviated a considerable amount from 28 days later.

It's hard to create something ENTIRELY original, but the story structure of a person waking up from a coma to a world-wide disaster is a compelling starting point and don't mind the similarities.

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There are certain things they will likely cut out from the tv show. Mostly the Woodbury storyline.



The show/comic's title isn't a reference to the zombies but of the survivors. It's not a zombie comic/show. It's about the people and how they'd survive. I've been told it's similar to World War Z in that it's a story about humans that involves zombies.
oh yeah, you simply *can't* show the woodbury stuff on TV .... at least i wouldn't think that you could, its some pretty heavy stuff, even for cable TV

i agree that the comic book is NOT about zombies, its about human survival... the backdrop could just as easily be any scenario where a group of people have to fight to survive in terrible conditions (ex. after a nuclear war or some such thing).... it just happens to be zombies

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I haven't read the novels and I'm sure the story will flesh out but when a patient wake up weeks later to find his town deserted and full of zombies? then bands together with other "normal people" to find a "safe zone" protected by the military?


sounds a lot like 28 Days Later to me
as the series progresses, you'll see that its not really like 28 days later at all (other than survivors + zombies).... its different in almost every other aspect... i highly encourage anybody to read the series, its very good

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I haven't read the novels and I'm sure the story will flesh out but when a patient wake up weeks later to find his town deserted and full of zombies? then bands together with other "normal people" to find a "safe zone" protected by the military?


sounds a lot like 28 Days Later to me
You can say that about almost any zombie movie except for the hospital part. The hospital scene was ripped from The Day of the Triffids, just so you know. 28 Days Later didn't start it.

The Walking Dead doesn't have a "rage virus" that infects people, nor does it have zombies that can run at super-human speed. The zombies are just a part of it but not the main focus. You could even compare it to the brief CBS show, Jericho. That wasn't about nuclear war, it was mostly about the people surviving the aftermath of it.

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oh yeah, you simply *can't* show the woodbury stuff on TV .... at least i wouldn't think that you could, its some pretty heavy stuff, even for cable TV

i agree that the comic book is NOT about zombies, its about human survival... the backdrop could just as easily be any scenario where a group of people have to fight to survive in terrible conditions (ex. after a nuclear war or some such thing).... it just happens to be zombies
One can only hope they can pull this off , it gets pretty brutal I agree for me that storyline is the defining moment so far in this series . I myself really hope they do not alter it.

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i love it when people argue the realism of zombie shows

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I hope it deviates eventually. I'd like a fresh experience. Also, I'm not all that impressed by the direction the comic went and think they could do better. Sort of like DEXTER. They took a cool novel and premise and then ran in their own direction making something that I think is even better than the source.
I'd prefer it stay true to the comic. There is only so much you can do with zombies before it gets tired and repetetive (this coming from someone who will watch anything that has a zombie in it).

There's only so many times you can put yourself in peril against slow moving zombies before things get ridiculous. The fact that the graphic novel started basically ignoring the zombies and focused on the issues of what happens when society crumbles is what allowed it to continue for 78(?) issues so far.

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You can say that about almost any zombie movie except for the hospital part. The hospital scene was ripped from The Day of the Triffids, just so you know. 28 Days Later didn't start it.

The Walking Dead doesn't have a "rage virus" that infects people, nor does it have zombies that can run at super-human speed. The zombies are just a part of it but not the main focus. You could even compare it to the brief CBS show, Jericho. That wasn't about nuclear war, it was mostly about the people surviving the aftermath of it.
Thanks for this. I had forgotten all about that but somehow found the scene reminiscent.

In anycase the zombie thing is imo so overdone.

Its like the Dracula rage of the 20th century and all the spinoffs. Draculas Bride, Dracula's sister, Dracula's aunt, Dracula's mother in law, Dracula's tax collector, fun with Dracula, Cheap Vacations in a box with Dracula..

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Thanks for this. I had forgotten all about that but somehow found the scene reminiscent.

In anycase the zombie thing is imo so overdone.

Its like the Dracula rage of the 20th century and all the spinoffs. Draculas Bride, Dracula's sister, Dracula's aunt, Dracula's mother in law, Dracula's tax collector, fun with Dracula, Cheap Vacations in a box with Dracula..
It's because it's easy to do.

The Zombie thing done right though, hasn't been done at all recently. This is well on it's way to being the first screen adaption of well done zombie mythology in a long time.

That's a shame too, there have been some very books and that that have been released in the last few years.

The Max Brook Books (World War Z and How to Survive a Zombie Apocolypse)
The Walking Dead Series
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (especially if you were forced to read it in school)

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It's because it's easy to do.

The Zombie thing done right though, hasn't been done at all recently. This is well on it's way to being the first screen adaption of well done zombie mythology in a long time.

That's a shame too, there have been some very books and that that have been released in the last few years.

The Max Brook Books (World War Z and How to Survive a Zombie Apocolypse)
The Walking Dead Series
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (especially if you were forced to read it in school)
One of the things thats interested me is post apocalyptic depictions of a future world. Just the world after a cataclysm. Not with the invocation of zombies, plagues, terminator war machines, road warriors, end or world weather, etc.
Although I suspect road warriors might be the closest to representing a possible transitory phase of a life after.
Waterworld in a stranger way touched on it.

I think you mentioned that the graphic novel Walking Dead is based on went into these areas. I am curious though given that why the need to invoke zombies at all? Could the book have foregone that and replaced with some other less distracting variable. or would that ruin it?

A little philososphical here but myself I think in a post apocalyptic world the zombies symbolically really are all of us. Fighting for survival given limited means and sustenance. The zombies seem to actually detract from this potential study of the darker side of human nature and darwinistic survival unfolded..

How about that Eberle eh?


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One of the things thats interested me is post apocalyptic depictions of a future world. Just the world after a cataclysm. Not with the invocation of zombies, plagues, terminator war machines, road warriors, end or world weather, etc.
Although I suspect road warriors might be the closest to representing a possible transitory phase of a life after.
Waterworld in a stranger way touched on it.
Book of Eli?

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You guys should play Left 4 Dead.

It's good preparation for when the REAL zombie Apocalypse happens.

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One of the things thats interested me is post apocalyptic depictions of a future world. Just the world after a cataclysm. Not with the invocation of zombies, plagues, terminator war machines, road warriors, end or world weather, etc.
Although I suspect road warriors might be the closest to representing a possible transitory phase of a life after.
Waterworld in a stranger way touched on it.

I think you mentioned that the graphic novel Walking Dead is based on went into these areas. I am curious though given that why the need to invoke zombies at all? Could the book have foregone that and replaced with some other less distracting variable. or would that ruin it?

A little philososphical here but myself I think in a post apocalyptic world the zombies really are all of us. Fighting for survival given limited means and sustenance. The zombies seem to actually detract from this potential study of the darker side of human nature and darwinistic survival unfolded..

How about that Eberle eh?
I think part of the point of involving Zombies is that it gives the survivors a real reason to unite as peacefully as possible in order to combat this invasion so to speak. Yet instead of uniting against a common enemy, they are too busy fighting amongst themselves. And while they fight amongst themselves their real common enemy is attacking both sides.

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You guys should play Left 4 Dead.

It's good preparation for when the REAL zombie Apocalypse happens.
The last thing I want to be doing is running around the downtown area of a major city.

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It's good preparation for when the REAL zombie Apocalypse happens.
I plan to become a zombie.

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One of the things thats interested me is post apocalyptic depictions of a future world. Just the world after a cataclysm. Not with the invocation of zombies, plagues, terminator war machines, road warriors, end or world weather, etc.
Although I suspect road warriors might be the closest to representing a possible transitory phase of a life after.
Waterworld in a stranger way touched on it.
The Road.
Great depiction of surviving in the aftermath of a catastrophe.

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The Road.
Great depiction of surviving in the aftermath of a catastrophe.
again, a great movie (haven't read the book yet, but am planning on it), but its not really about the catastrophe at all, its about the human survival *after* the fact.... thats what we're saying about good zombie literature as well, that the zombies are a non-important aspect of the story.... its about how humans will try to survive, cope and attempt to rebuild once all remnants of society have evaporated .... this is why the so many people like the woodbury story hook, or at least one of the main reasons, because its about a society rebuilt - but in a way we deem as perverted

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