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10-05-2003, 09:49 AM
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Florida picks up Shields

So now that Florida picked up Shields, Does that mean that Valiquette will ned to clear wiavers to be sent down? Can we pick him back up?

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We should get Dudley to trade him back for future considerations


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So now that Florida picked up Shields, Does that mean that Valiquette will ned to clear wiavers to be sent down? Can we pick him back up?
That's my understanding, although to send him to Toronto he'd still have to clear for us too I think.

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That's my understanding, although to send him to Toronto he'd still have to clear for us too I think.

ahhhh touche..

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Actually, come to think of it there might be a rule preventing a team taking back a player they had lost in the waiver draft for the remainder of that season. Not sure... someone else look it up.

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Isn't that only when it's involving trades though.

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Actually, come to think of it there might be a rule preventing a team taking back a player they had lost in the waiver draft for the remainder of that season. Not sure... someone else look it up.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that a team can pick up a player that they've lost on waivers. I almost remember something about them having first dibs in fact.

The Oilers did this with a player that they lost to the Leafs...I think it was Ralph Intranouvo...somebody will probably correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that a team can pick up a player that they've lost on waivers. I almost remember something about them having first dibs in fact.

The Oilers did this with a player that they lost to the Leafs...I think it was Ralph Intranouvo...somebody will probably correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I understan you are correct the Oilers would have first crack at him. This actually happened last year with Druken. I may not have it exactly right but basically he was first traded Carolina. THen Car sent him down and Toronto picked him up. Toronto then sent him down allowing Carolina to pick him up again.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that a team can pick up a player that they've lost on waivers. I almost remember something about them having first dibs in fact.

The Oilers did this with a player that they lost to the Leafs...I think it was Ralph Intranouvo...somebody will probably correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I understand you are correct, the Oilers would have first crack at him and he would be able to be sent directly to Toronto. I heard an interview with KP on the radio a couple days ago that was to that effect. This actually happened last year with Druken. I may not have it exactly right but basically he was first traded Carolina. Then Car sent him down and Toronto picked him up. Toronto then sent him down allowing Carolina to pick him up again.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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So now that Florida picked up Shields, Does that mean that Valiquette will ned to clear wiavers to be sent down? Can we pick him back up?
Article 13.22 through 13.37 covers the waiver draft. Its not very long, less than two pages, so I had a quick read through.

It seems clear that the Oilers could claim him off waivers if FLA puts him there, but they would NOT have first dibs. They would fax in there request ... and the pecking order is the same as the waiver draft if anyone else wants him.

An interesting quirk though ... if the Oilers take him back the claiming fee would be about a third of what they were paid by FLA. (50%, and paid in CAD).

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Actually, come to think of it there might be a rule preventing a team taking back a player they had lost in the waiver draft for the remainder of that season. Not sure... someone else look it up.
I can't quote the rule, but if you are referring to the one which screwed McAmmond over last year, the rule only applies to players traded within the 72 hours preceding the waiver draft.

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